Turbo Bro you nailed everything I have found through research.
Uniformity.
Keep it clean and stable and it's perfect.
Kudos
yeah man, I did my own testing and verifying to see the differences first hand, and all of my testing and comparing has shown me that tension increases leverage, which is a good thing and that tension helps to make a perfect coil, which is also a good thing, but it has also shown me that having tension on the wire before it is formed does nothing to actually improve the vape as long as your forming method provides a clean tight uniform coil and tension isn't absolutely necessary, it's an aid but it is not more than that because truth is my coil winds up being formed just as well without any additional tension before the point of it being strained into a continuous ring. all the strain and forming happens right there at the fulcrum and that's really all that matters, that and a slightly less than 90* approach angle to create "adhesion". to me THAT is where a kuro or coilmaster will fail, it can't add adhesion.
The coil master works great man! It's very easy but I feel convinced that I can do better?
How about I just shoot you a small flat rate box label that you can print and stick on a box?
I love that deal you have there and the clamp makes it girl finger friendly
Any chance of getting the rod in 2mm? I can shoot ya a stick of it if you don't have it.
Thank you for thinking of me bro.
Like I said, I love my masters but that pinching tool you made looks like it would yield a better coil. I wish the coil master had a wider finger (I emailed them suggesting that) for thinner gauge wire like I use. I think that would make it do what your clamp does.
Thank you bro. Just let me know.
Edited to say: your making me a deal I can't refuse, there Tony Soprano.
russ I have 1.5mm & 2.4mm readily available, not sure if I have anything 2.0 but I'll check to make sure. last time I tried to turn a 3mm titanium rod down to make a 2mm and it just doesn't work well, the titanium flexes so much that the rod was not perfectly uniform throughout it's length, it tapers slightly because of the flex. let me see what I can come up with before you bother sending any 2mm stock, I can probably come up with something
as far as the coilers like the kuro and the coilmaster, again I have never tried one but my "theory" on them is that they would work better if they grabbed the wire and held it snuggly, offering resistance to the wind which adds tension and allows you to compress the coil as it is being wrapped. this is exactly what my "pinch and twist" method does. by pinching the wire and offering resistance this makes the wraps follow the form completely and without slack, it also allow for a wrap that is done in one fluid motion so the strain remains consistent throughout the wrap instead of wind and stop, reposition your grip, wind and stop, reposition your grip, etc etc... and it also allows me to compress as I wrap, which causes what mac has coined the phrase "adhesion". adhesion is very important and adhesion can't be obtained with those wrappers from what I've seen. this is where my pinch and twist also differs, my P&T method allow for an approach angle that is less than 90*. even adding just a few degrees of negative approach angle is enough to promote adhesion and my compressing while pinching just naturally adds it's own negative approach angle which gives awesome adhesion, so much so that I sometimes have to do a lot of skewering. the more adhesion the more the coil is shorted before it is pulsed. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the coils made with the coilmaster require less skewering in general? I'm almost willing to bet they do
that's a direct result of less adhesion
to me that's what the big difference will be with my coiler is that it will have great adhesion where those other coilers really can't. the best those coilers can do from what I see is allow a 90* approach angle which will not promote adhesion, perfectly stacked yes, but adhesion? not really, nothing like you can get from either tension wrapping or pinch and squeeze wrapping.
I agree with mac on many of the things he says and I think I agree that those coil wrappers can't really give you adhesion, only thing is I think mac don't really get what my pinch and twist can actually do. I'd love to make another one and send it to him so he can also see what it is that the P&T method can actually do. oh and also btw, this pinch and twist also makes perfect dual parallel coils in a matter of seconds
here is my first ever dual parallel coil that I made mostly just for this thread here, I just twisted it up same as I do with my singles, the pinch and twist keeps the wires parallel, keeps them under adhesion throughout the wrap and gives a perfect coil, got this in my first attempt, first time ever thinking of doing a dual parallel. look at that oxidation pattern and the coloring, it can't get much better than this. it fires dead perfect
now I've been using that coil since I built it, look at how even and uniform the gunk buildup is from a few days use. here is both sides, all I did was pull the wick and rinse it slightly to be able to see it better
oh and one last word about mounting the coil and having the 2 end wraps splay open, honestly I don't see that as so much of a problem in general, all this does to me is causes the center "hot" area to not spread as easily to the legs, it's almost like hot leg protection in a way, it's a break that isolates the legs from the coil. on a 10 wrap where wraps #1 and #10 are slightly splayed wraps #2-9 will still be perfect and vape perfect and having #1 & #10 being less than 100% efficient doesn't hurt things all that much in most cases. you can see with the coil I showed above, the gunk buildup is perfectly uniform except on the end wraps where there is not much gunk at all, this is because the end wraps are isolated slightly with the gaps from splaying open slightly. not so detrimental really I think
