TFA RY4D Percent Recommendations?

[Boletus]

I'm starting out slow by working with single flavors for now. I just started a batch of TFA Double RY4, mosty VG, 33 mg nic, 4% TFA RY4D. After reading a bunch of recipes, I see that a lot of people mix it at 10% or higher, so I am wondering if I should add more flavor soon so I won't have to wait an extra week or two to the already expected steep time.

I figured I would start on the low side for flavoring to be cautious, but is that too little to do much good by itself?

Thanks.

 

[Dogeggs]

I'd start at 8% on RY4D and adjust from there...

 

[Wingsfan0310]

I add 8% RY4D, to that I add 1 drop of AP per 5ml for nuttyness (Halo Tribeca Clone). For a sweeter treat I sometime add 2-3% Caramel and Vanilla Swirl (or Bavarian Cream if you prefer) to the mix. Good luck.

Cheers,
Steve

PS That's my EDV

 

[440BB]

I like fairly light flavoring and am at 8%. You might want to bump up to 6% to start, then give it a week or two to develop. It gets better over time. Good luck!

 

[JohnnyDill]

I do 7.5% RY4D with 1% AP and it seems plenty strong. It is ready to vape without any steeping IMO and gets even better with time.

 

[Big_Jim]

I mix my RY4D at 10% and let it steep for a couple of weeks before I vape it. I've never thought of adding AP to the mix, I'll have to try that!

 

[Boletus]

So I tried it at 4% right after mixing and again after a few hours, and it tasted like a honey mustard sauce to me (kind of icky), but very faint. I gave it a couple of hot water baths (~140 degrees F) today and a bunch more shaking, and the flavor became more noticeable and transformed to a light maple syrup taste (definitely an improvement). I asked my wife to try it, and she says she can hardly taste anything. I have very sensitive taste buds, so my descriptions are probably meaningless to everyone else.

So I bumped it up to 8% today to see what happens. I want something that has a pretty serious flavor "punch" because I do a lot of unflavored and break that up with something nice and tasty when the urge kicks in. So tomorrow it will probably get a few more hot water treatments and a bunch more shaking.

Eventually I will pass judgement on it, but for now it is really interesting for me to see how much the flavor changes from one day to the next. That, to me. is the great thing about DIY; experimentation and learning from the experiments, although saving a significant amount of money is a good motivator too.

 

[odoyal63]

10% ry4d 5% bavarian cream and 5% carmel candy all tfa

 

[odoyal63]

Not mine but it has been floating around the boards for a while

 

[gwhetzler]

I go the other route and mix a higher caramel then ry4d and a splash of vanilla.

 

[dannyv45]

I'm starting out slow by working with single flavors for now. I just started a batch of TFA Double RY4, mosty VG, 33 mg nic, 4% TFA RY4D. After reading a bunch of recipes, I see that a lot of people mix it at 10% or higher, so I am wondering if I should add more flavor soon so I won't have to wait an extra week or two to the already expected steep time.

I figured I would start on the low side for flavoring to be cautious, but is that too little to do much good by itself?

Thanks.

Always taste your mix directly after you mix it. If you don't you have no baseline to judge the steep progress. RY4D will mellow with time and produce subtle top notes. So you will be able to judge right away if it's to weak. RY4D needs 2 weeks to mature and if you add a cream 3 - 4 weeks depending on the cream used. If you add a chocolate note then 4 - 5 weeks. If you add just caramel 2 - 3 weeks.

Wingsfan0310 knows what he's doing with RY4D so his advice is right on point.

 

[MMSD64]

Is that 2-3% each on the caramel and vanilla swirl? Been steeping with hot and cold on a ultra sonic then waiting a few days. Any advice on the steeping time before vaping?

 

[b.m.]

I've made that dry4,bavarian cream,and caramel candy several times,that's good stuff.I give it 2 hot water baths,then let it sit overnight,and it's very good the next day,it will continue to get better every day after that.I got away from it for a while to change up flavors,but left a half bottle in the cabinet,it sat in there for at least a month and a half,and it is the best thing i have ever tasted,nice smooth and very creamy.

 

[4WLO]

I mixed my first test batch of TFA RY4D at 7%. The flavor strength is about where I like it (mild-medium) but if it gets a little stronger it will be ok with me. The fresh mix flavor I am getting is tobacco on the exhale with a very slight caramel on the inhale. The tobacco is way more present than the caramel. YTMV

 

[SthrnCelt]

Maybe I'm but I really like this combination with pretty much any ratio of the three (RY4D, Creamy Caramel, Vanilla Swirl) and on occasion throw in or replace a flavor with Mocha. Best combination for cool mornings on the porch with a cup of coffee!

 

[4WLO]

Update on my 7% test batch
My test batch is only 5 days old, shaken and tasted everyday. The strength of the flavor overall is about the same. The last day or so the caramel has come in as strong as the tobacco. I think it is blended as well as I could have hoped. I'm really digging this liquid.

 

[Exchaner]

Hi everyone, I've asked this question before with no conclusive answers. Does anyone get a chemical taste from RY4D regardless of how long it is steeped? I initially mixed mine at 7% and the chemical taste was there even after a month.... Gradually reduced it, and the chemical taste did not go away until I reached 4.5%. But now I have a liquid that is too short on flavor. I mix at 50/50. Could it be a bad batch? I purchased mine from RTS 6 months ago. If I can disregard the chemical taste, I am comfortable at 5.5 %.

 

[4WLO]

I haven't noticed a chemical taste so far. Mixed mine to 70/30(pg/vg)@ 6mg. Got my TFA RY4D from Bull City Vapor.

 

[Boletus]

Hi everyone, I've asked this question before with no conclusive answers. Does anyone get a chemical taste from RY4D regardless of how long it is steeped? I initially mixed mine at 7% and the chemical taste was there even after a month.... Gradually reduced it, and the chemical taste did not go away until I reached 4.5%. But now I have a liquid that is too short on flavor. I mix at 50/50. Could it be a bad batch? I purchased mine from RTS 6 months ago. If I can disregard the chemical taste, I am comfortable at 5.5 %.

I bought mine from TFA about 2 months ago and mixed it at 8%, and to be honest, it doesn't taste like much except sweet, with a hint of pancake syrup. It is not bad tasting at all, just very sweet. I had never used it before and did not know what to expect, but a few others here remarked about it being very light on flavor around the same time, and a query was put out to TFA, and they replied that it was a new batch but the formulation had not changed. So it seemed that maybe it needed aging, but after 2 months mine is the same as it was 2 weeks after mixing. I just use it for sweetening other flavors now.

 

[JohnnyDill]

I mix my 7.5% RY4D with 6 drops of Inawera DNB Flavour per 10ml of juice. It makes it even better, IMO. It brings some ashy notes to the taste.