That is what you inhale?!?

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jjordan

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My non-smoking wife loves that I now vape. I can vape in the house, and even vape when in the same room as her. The 'possible' unknown effects of vaping are nothing when compared to the known effects of smoking. vaping got me off analogs completely, my doctors say I am a non-smoker now

When someone wants to argue about my vaping, I simply use small words, and usually end it with if the only two choices are either me smoking, or me vaping, which do you prefer? As another member pointed out, if you have fallen into the ocean, and see a lifeboat in the distance, you are not going to stop to check to see if it is an 'approved' lifeboat before getting in are you? When the other choice is drowning?
I have that same argument with my parents, I live with them, and they have since banned me to the basement because I quit smoking and now vape...the problem lies here they are more mad that I vape than that I smoked O M G! Seriously?!? I always end my fights over my buying vaping stuff which it's my choice my money..right? RIGHT! I can do as I please with it...anyway every fight we have ends with would you rather I go back to smoking? Their reply "We just wish you wouldn't smoke at all!" I explain and explain til I am blue in the face that this is not smoking but what can I do they see "smoke" so they consider it smoking and since it contains nicotine it is still smoking! Their arguments not mine!
 

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I have that same argument with my parents, I live with them, and they have since banned me to the basement because I quit smoking and now vape...the problem lies here they are more mad that I vape than that I smoked O M G! Seriously?!? I always end my fights over my buying vaping stuff which it's my choice my money..right? RIGHT! I can do as I please with it...anyway every fight we have ends with would you rather I go back to smoking? Their reply "We just wish you wouldn't smoke at all!" I explain and explain til I am blue in the face that this is not smoking but what can I do they see "smoke" so they consider it smoking and since it contains nicotine it is still smoking! Their arguments not mine!

My mom has given me similar comments. I just said v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y: NO TOBACCO, NO FIRE, NO ASH, NO SMOKE: W-A-T-E-R V-A-P-O-R -- NO SMOKING! She says, don't talk to me like I'm an idiot! I said, then don't say idiotic things! water vapor! not smoke! DO YOU SEE ANY ASHES??? DO YOU SMELL SMOKE??? She says no, so I guess I won that argument. Of course I've been fortunate enough to not live with my parents for the last 30 yrs, so I speak the truth to her whether she likes it or not. She paid up on the "betcha can't stay smoke-free for 30 days" $100 bet she impulsively blurted when I told her I had quit, so I guess she must believe me. She's been around me vaping enough now that her comments are more on the order of my my own: "that's so hard to believe" -- I'm still amazed and dumbfounded by how similar the taste and sensation is.

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I hear you.
But luckily/hopefully flavoring companies won't be affected by the FDA . They've been used long before vaping for candy and perfume. TFA was wise to never have had listed vaping as an application for their flavors.

Plant some fruit trees and get ready. LOL
 

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Well, I suppose the only way to absolutely know what is in your liquid would be to start mixing your own. My friend and I are actually going to start doing exactly that very soon. In the mean time, I imagine it would be difficult getting liquid companies to release ingredient lists, simply because they wouldn't want people to copy their recipes and make their own for a lot less money. It always comes down to the almighty dollar, no?
here is a good idea for your nicotine.
a flower garden of Nicotiana flowering plants.
I learned something cool about plants..how they increase the nicotine in Tobacco family plants,with nicotine being a healing and defense in the plants.
they drop seeds for the next season as well..
i want to mess with it just to mess with it hehe.
http://www.gardenersnet.com/flower/nicotiana.htm

this study is also pretty cool about the different results of wounding to increase nicotine..
http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/57/11/2899.full.pdf

Just thought it was cool reading..
 

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That was the first thing that was visibly different for me. That nasty tar buildup was gone within days.

Taowolf, love the fingernail love, mine was closer to the finger side that had circles that were not white, it freaked me out almost more than the o2 sensor that was used to gather info on a sleep issue that read less than my wifes(turned out I had no o2 issue while sleeping).After 5 years smoke free my o2 sensor has a cool 99+ when before it was lower than one who did not do the aerobics I did.Sometimes a smack works, its was not my idea to do the o2 sensor(doctor) but the wakeup was nice to see and great to see it was reversable for me.Anyone saying vaping is worse than smoking is lost in something beyond nic, maybe anger issues.
 
I would even follow that up with, "I can tell you every chemical in the substance I'm inhaling, can you list every one of the 4,000+ chemicals in your cigarette? I'd hazard a wager that you can't, and, until you can, keep your judgements to yourself about what I'm putting in MY lungs." 'Nuff said.
Maybe you can tell every chemical, but I have no idea what is in that flavoring. It is supposed to be safe to eat, but no one really knows about inhaling it. All I can do is hope and reasonably expect that it is safer than the 50 cigarettes I used to smoke every day.
 

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Maybe you can tell every chemical, but I have no idea what is in that flavoring. It is supposed to be safe to eat, but no one really knows about inhaling it. All I can do is hope and reasonably expect that it is safer than the 50 cigarettes I used to smoke every day.
I know exactly what's in mine. One tank is unflavored (Nic+PG+VG) and the other is Menthol I make with Mentha Arvensis USP Grade crystals (Menthol+Nic+PG+VG)

If you're worried about flavor chems then do away with them. I smoked Marlboro for about 40 years and never once did I even think about looking for grape, cheesecake or some off the wall flavored cigarettes
 
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