Interesting, I would have thought you'd get more hours out of the regular batteries since they have a higher mAH than the high drain batteries.
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Interesting, I would have thought you'd get more hours out of the regular batteries since they have a higher mAH than the high drain batteries.
Damn J you didnt get your yet ? that sucks !
I picked a BAD weekend to launch these sorry !
I picked a BAD weekend to launch these sorry !
Hi Hyper,
I can't explain to you, because I don't understand it myself. If you do a search for LiMN there are a bunch of threads that talk about the differences between the batteries and why the lower mAH on the LiMN does not equate out to lower run times. Something to do with the C rating I think. LOL sorry someone less ditzy will be able to explain it better.
You did great! And I'm not just saying that because I got mine LOL Once everybody gets theirs they will be so amazed it won't matter when they got, just that they got it
Since I was fortunate enough to win the contest, I'd say you picked an excellent weekend to launch these!! Sorry you didn't get yours though J!
Ok I have run into a problem, but I'm sure Buzz has a solution I have tried 302, 901 and 510 attys, all with great results 
Then I tried two different kinds of 510 cartomizers, the premiums from LiteCig and my favorite ones from IkenVape. Again great results. Lastly I tried 808 style cartos and this is where the problem comes in. Two different 808 cartos, first the standard ones from IkenVape and the premium ones from LiteCig. Neither works on the Buzz. They both fire so it's not a connection issue, but neither produces any vapor at all and both got extremely hot. I had the Buzz set to 4.3 volts at the time. I'm guessing it's an airflow issue as both cartos worked on my 901 lazer and produced lots of vapor there. They both have the same slotted bottom if that makes a difference.
So any tips, tricks and or solutions?
Thanks!!
I have tried 302, 901 and 510 attys, all with great results Then I tried two different kinds of 510 cartomizers, the premiums from LiteCig and my favorite ones from IkenVape. Again great results. Lastly I tried 808 style cartos and this is where the problem comes in. Two different 808 cartos, first the standard ones from IkenVape and the premium ones from LiteCig. Neither works on the Buzz. They both fire so it's not a connection issue, but neither produces any vapor at all and both got extremely hot. I had the Buzz set to 4.3 volts at the time. I'm guessing it's an airflow issue as both cartos worked on my 901 lazer and produced lots of vapor there. They both have the same slotted bottom if that makes a difference.So any tips, tricks and or solutions?
Thanks!!
On the cartoz I have used 901 style I had to use an adapter on them , I got NO airflow with them ( are you getting airflow ?? )
My connector does not have a hole in the side for cartoz airflow . I am not familiar with the 901 Lazer so I do not know what type of setup it has.
I have some battery extenders I put a hole in the side to get the airflow. I know that the adapters are sold for the cartoz as well.
Let me know I can make one up for you. Just cover shipping .
The 808 is a 901 type thread right ??
My connector does not have a hole in the side for cartoz airflow . I am not familiar with the 901 Lazer so I do not know what type of setup it has.
I have some battery extenders I put a hole in the side to get the airflow. I know that the adapters are sold for the cartoz as well.
Let me know I can make one up for you. Just cover shipping .
The 808 is a 901 type thread right ??
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Thanks for the reply Buzz! The 808 is a 901 type thread. I know there has been some issues with some cartos and some 901 connectors and airflow. I have an extender somewhere I'll give it a try. It's not a biggie for me, was just trying out all the options and playing with it a big to get to know it better I'll probably stick to my 302 attys on it and occasionally a 510 carto when I don't feel like dripping.
At first I was afraid to turn the screw to adjust the voltage, I let hubby do that. But tonight I got out the multi-meter and played with the voltage and all sorts of different attys and cartos. It was quite fun and interesting! After all the playing I ended up with the 302 atty back on it at 4.5 volts That little bit more voltage definitely makes a difference. I did find that 5 volts is too high for me, at least with the attys and cartos I have and didn't try any higher than that.
Personally I think this is a must have PV since you can do it all with just one unit!
I'll probably stick to my 302 attys on it and occasionally a 510 carto when I don't feel like dripping.At first I was afraid to turn the screw to adjust the voltage, I let hubby do that. But tonight I got out the multi-meter and played with the voltage and all sorts of different attys and cartos. It was quite fun and interesting! After all the playing I ended up with the 302 atty back on it at 4.5 volts
That little bit more voltage definitely makes a difference. I did find that 5 volts is too high for me, at least with the attys and cartos I have and didn't try any higher than that.Personally I think this is a must have PV since you can do it all with just one unit!
I was going by what Buzz told me his test results were. He said the AW IMR 16340 550mAh didn't last as long as his Ultrafire 16340 880mAh did. The only thing I can figure comparing the test results between you and him is the Ultrafire outlasts both kinds of AW batteries.
I still have the UltraFires in running, they haven't died yet so don't have a time length for them. At the moment it's been about 8 hours use time. In single use in another PV the UltraFires way out preformed both types of the AW batteries for me. However the AW LiMNs seem to work better in series with the slightly higher voltage. I'll report back after the UltraFires die.
I purchased 10 more UltraFire batteries from China the other day so those will most likely be the ones I stick with for both PVs.
Sounds like I should have ordered some Ultrafire batteries. I ordered a Buzz and some AW 16340 Li-Ion batteries. At the time I figured AW would have a better run time than Ultrafire. I thought that because I read a lot of threads here where people report AW batteries last them longer than Ultrafire or Trustfire.
They probably meant the Red AW LiMN batteries. Even so the AW Li-ions are still good. I vaped moderate to heavy and got 7+ hours. To me that's good and I could live with that. Of course your milage will vary, everybody is different. No matter what batteries you use you're going to love the Buzz!
No, they were talking about the black AW Li-Ions. I just did some reading on the candle power forum where they tested AW, Trustfire, and Ultrafire and the results were Trustfire had the longest run time. However they said Trustfire and Ultrafire degraded faster than AW making AW the winner in the long term. It sounds like the reason why Trustfire and Ultrafire have a higher initial capacity is they are longer and wider than the AW. Here's the thread on it.
Some R123 li-ion comparison tests - CandlePowerForums
I agree I'll love the Buzz. Just waiting for Buzz to mail it to me.
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Buzz you might want to start stocking the 901 to 808 cartomizer adapter. Cartomizers are becoming the go to setup for many people.
I haven't tried the TrustFire in the 16340 size. Yes the UltraFires are 36mm tall and both the AWs are 34mm tall.
I got around 9 hours use time on the UltraFires. I'm running the Red AW LiMN in again to see if they go 10 hours for sure or not.
None of them are "bad" in my opinion. I even have cheap no name 16340s from China that work the same as the AW black Li-Ion batteries. The only real difference is how long they last, but 7 hours is still good run time at least in my book. I don't think you will be disapointed with the AW batteries and you can get the UltraFires next time.
Did your Buzz ship yet? I can't wait to more people get theirs and start writing about their experiences.
I got around 9 hours use time on the UltraFires. I'm running the Red AW LiMN in again to see if they go 10 hours for sure or not.
None of them are "bad" in my opinion. I even have cheap no name 16340s from China that work the same as the AW black Li-Ion batteries. The only real difference is how long they last, but 7 hours is still good run time at least in my book. I don't think you will be disapointed with the AW batteries and you can get the UltraFires next time.
Did your Buzz ship yet? I can't wait to more people get theirs and start writing about their experiences.
A definite must! I couldn't find my 901-808 adapter, but I did a 901-510 then topped it with a 510-901 adapter and the cartos are working great now.
I can do that as well but it makes it pretty big this way. I'll have to buy some 901 to 808 adapters.
The Aw's are a high discharge rate battery vs the Ultrafires. it really depends on the Capacity of the battery for the length it will last .
As batteries age they will loose capacity as well so ?
A lot of variables to consider .
I'm glad you are finding the SPOT for your atomizer choice , as you fool around with it more and use other atomizers you will Know the spot they are best at.
Makes it kinda nice to be able to tune it in huh ?
As batteries age they will loose capacity as well so ?
A lot of variables to consider .
I'm glad you are finding the SPOT for your atomizer choice , as you fool around with it more and use other atomizers you will Know the spot they are best at.
Makes it kinda nice to be able to tune it in huh ?
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