The " BUZZ " VariVolt Pv's coming SOON !

[Synthnadz]

Yes, of course. I've been driving myself mad with the voltage adjustments over the past week, as I initially thought that was the culprit...

Perhaps it's the 'gap' in between the center post screw and the outer threads that's 'defocusing' the taste of the draw? If I had an o-ring of some sort that would fit in there, I'd be stuffing it in place right now. ;-)

Who knows? Hopefully an answer will surface. Thanks Buzz.

 

[Hyperspace]

my unit is sealed tight now!

How is it sealed tight now? Did you use silicone or a O-Ring?

 

[Synthnadz]

How is it sealed tight now? Did you use silicone or a O-Ring?

It was internally sealed by Mr. Buzz himself with silicone, but how exactly I do not know!

 

[harpo]

Yes, of course. I've been driving myself mad with the voltage adjustments over the past week, as I initially thought that was the culprit...

Perhaps it's the 'gap' in between the center post screw and the outer threads that's 'defocusing' the taste of the draw? If I had an o-ring of some sort that would fit in there, I'd be stuffing it in place right now. ;-)

Who knows? Hopefully an answer will surface. Thanks Buzz.

I don't believe it has anything to do with the gap. My GGTS has a bigger gap than the buzz and it vapes just fine.

 

[Synthnadz]

I don't believe it has anything to do with the gap. My GGTS has a bigger gap than the buzz and it vapes just fine.

Sure, but how specific are we being. Again, I cannot even notice a difference with a regular 510 atty, but with a 510 carto it's night and day. In short, you'd really need to be using the same atty at the same exact voltage to really isolate the difference.

 

[harpo]

Sure, but how specific are we being. Again, I cannot even notice a difference with a regular 510 atty, but with a 510 carto it's night and day. In short, you'd really need to be using the same atty at the same exact voltage to really isolate the difference.

I just took a 510 carto and vaped it on my 5volt saber touch and the buzz at the same voltage. Draw and taste are identical. So sorry but I can't duplicate the problem.

 

[Synthnadz]

I just took a 510 carto and vaped it on my 5volt saber touch and the buzz at the same voltage. Draw and taste are identical. So sorry but I can't duplicate the problem.

That could mean that your ST and Buzz have a similar draw, for example. Also, what I'm talking about is not that obvious. It took me over a week to confirm that it was 'real'. A/B testing isn't the same as spending a week doing a deep comparison. ;-)

 

[harpo]

That could mean that your ST and Buzz have a similar draw, for example. Also, what I'm talking about is not that obvious. It took me over a week to confirm that it was 'real'. A/B testing isn't the same as spending a week doing a deep comparison. ;-)

Didn't you say it's a noticable difference? If so, would someone be able to tell right away.

 

[BuzzKill]

It has to be the adapter IMO , there is a HUGE variation from MFG to MFG .
Something is not exactly the same between the 2 units ??

 

[Synthnadz]

That could mean that your ST and Buzz have a similar draw, for example. Also, what I'm talking about is not that obvious. It took me over a week to confirm that it was 'real'. A/B testing isn't the same as spending a week doing a deep comparison. ;-)

Oh it's noticeable, but not obvious. It's really noticeable if you spend days with the same flavors on two units trying to line them up. It's noticeable enough to be frustrating the crap out of me too. ;-)

Are you trying to somehow prove that I'm wrong or constructing this for my own amusement? I swear, I'm not.

 

[harpo]

Oh it's noticeable, but not obvious. It's really noticeable if you spend days with the same flavors on two units trying to line them up. It's noticeable enough to be frustrating the crap out of me too. ;-)

Are you trying to somehow prove that I'm wrong or constructing this for my own amusement? I swear, I'm not.

No I was trying to help you by seeing if I could duplicate it. If you don't want my help that's fine. I'll move on. Good luck.

 

[Synthnadz]

It has to be the adapter IMO , there is a HUGE variation from MFG to MFG .
Something is not exactly the same between the 2 units ??

But using the same 510 adapter I use on my Prodigy (on a 901 -> 801 adapter on the Buzz) doesn't squash the issue. Thus my WTF-ness. =]

 

[Synthnadz]

No I was trying to help you by seeing if I could duplicate it. If you don't want my help that's fine. I'll move on. Good luck.

Harpo, I do appreciate your help. It just seemed from your replies that you were trying to disprove the viability of my issue, that's all!

 

[mixitman]

Sweet.. batteries for my Buzz are shipped and on the way! Buzz isn't on it's way yet, but I'm glad I'll get the batteries 1st so they can be all charged up and ready to rock when it does get here.. I'd have hated to get the buzz 1st and not have the batts!

Dangit, drove about 270 miles today and forgot to stop at a Home Depot for multimeter.. doh

 

[boz]

I was having the same problem with the flavour issue, also I was not getting any TH or Nic hit. Then I made one of those pilltube mods where you put the carto innards into the bottom of the pilltube, add a 510 battery connector to the top, screw in a gutted 510 carto on top and screw the bottom onto a 901 to 510 connector. Then pour 2 gallons of eliquid into the pilltube and vape away.

I now can't believe how good the taste is and the Nic hit is unbelievable, I'm going to have to cut down the Nic strength because I'm Wallying out on the 36mg. Before attaching this beast to the unit it was getting too hot and killing the flavour, TH and the Nic hit, even at 4.5v. Now I have my flavour back, TH is back, can vape for ever and can cut my juice strength because the Nic hit is killer. I put this down to the liquid holder not overheating due to the amount of liquid surrounding the carto unit. Very happy, I am (Yoda voice).

 

[WitchWay]

Odd question:

Anyone have any specific 901 -> 510 adapters that they really like? I'm looking for an 'alternative' to the one I ordered with my Buzz from Notcig, as I'm trying to slay a very odd beast here.

Basically, this is my issue: I cannot get the same level of 'taste' out of my 510 cartomizers that I've grown accustomed to with some of my other 5 volt mods, and after dialing up and down the voltage compulsively to try to find 'the spot', I'm now semi-convinced that it just may be the specific airflow that the 901 -> 510 adapter is giving me. When I rig up a 901 -> 801 adapter to one of my tried and true 801 -> 510 adapters, I *seem* to be getting better results in terms of taste. So, either I'm totally nuts, or it's the 901 -> 510 adapter that is somehow not allowing me to taste my liquids as much as I'd like to.

So, does anyone know where I can get a 901 -> 510 adapter that is *different* from the ones that Notcig is selling? I'm looking for something with slightly thicker walls, like my 801 -> 510 adapters, if that makes any sense. ;-)

Thanks!

Sorry Syn I can not be of any help, but I can say I have experienced what you are describing. I can put the same 510 carto on 4 different PVs and there is a difference in taste on every single one. It's there, but it's not a big enough difference to matter to me. There are so many varibles that could be causing it though, so it's hard to say how to fix it. I just live with it. I said I wasn't going to be any help I do hope you get it worked out for you though because if it bothers you then it takes out the enjoyment and that's no fun.

I thought I'd let everyone know Mike's forum is pretty much setup now. So if you wanted to have topic specific threads, head on over to the Notcigs forum.

notcigs.com • Index page

I'm probably the last to the party, but I'm heading over there after this

I was having the same problem with the flavour issue, also I was not getting any TH or Nic hit. Then I made one of those pilltube mods where you put the carto innards into the bottom of the pilltube, add a 510 battery connector to the top, screw in a gutted 510 carto on top and screw the bottom onto a 901 to 510 connector. Then pour 2 gallons of eliquid into the pilltube and vape away.

I now can't believe how good the taste is and the Nic hit is unbelievable, I'm going to have to cut down the Nic strength because I'm Wallying out on the 36mg. Before attaching this beast to the unit it was getting too hot and killing the flavour, TH and the Nic hit, even at 4.5v. Now I have my flavour back, TH is back, can vape for ever and can cut my juice strength because the Nic hit is killer. I put this down to the liquid holder not overheating due to the amount of liquid surrounding the carto unit. Very happy, I am (Yoda voice).

Ok I'm totally confused and totally intrigued by this. Is there a thread that gives step by step instructions for this mod somewhere?

Thanks and Happy Vaping!!

 

[boz]

Ok I'm totally confused and totally intrigued by this. Is there a thread that gives step by step instructions for this mod somewhere?

Thanks and Happy Vaping!!

I can't remember the thread but it's on here somewhere. I bought these:

2× Pill Cache Container Geocaching Keyrings holder VIAL - eBay (item 260611205523 end time Jun-28-10 08:40:03 PDT)

Items needed:

Pill container
1 x new carto
1 x dead carto
1 x matching battery connector
Filling for the pill container.

Tools needed:

Drill and bits
Bench vice.

I cut off the ring top (with a hacksaw) and filed it flat. Removed all the paint and polished the pill container. Then you take a new carto, put it on a slimline battery and slowly and carefully push the carto back and forth until it pops out of the carto tube. You have to be careful as you take it out of the tube so as not to destroy the coil. Going slow at this stage is vital.

Then you drill the correct size holes in the top and bottom of the pill container. On the bottom you carefully insert the carto you removed from the tube with the coil going into the pill container and the thread at the bottom. Then vice press it into the bottom of the pill container. Then you vice press a battery thread into the top of the pill container. You have to remove the positive terminal and the silicone grommet from the battery thread you pressed into the top of the pill container for free flowing air.

You then take a carto that you have also gutted and then put the carto thread back into the now hollow tube, now you can screw that into the battery thread on the top of the pill container where you pressed in the battery thread.

You can now fill the pill container all around the carto coil carefully with wadding or blue foam and you are ready to screw the pill container onto your power source and put a drip tip on the empty carto on top and you're ready to go. To refill, just unscrew the cap and pour in a shipload of juice.

You can easily put 5ml or more of juice into the container and go for ages without having to refill. I find it much easier and better than those juice feed tubes, or bottom feed mods with juice bottles. Plus it looks cool.

 

[WitchWay]

Thank you for the detailed instructions!!!!!!! Very interesting. I've already sent a copy to hubby's computer so he can look at it since he's the one that will have to make it for me

Happy Vaping!!

 

[Synthnadz]

Ok - it's good to see some evidence here that the 510 carto taste issue on the Buzz isn't just 'in my head'. Didn't think it was. ;-)

To both of you that also have noticed it: were you by any chance using the 901 -> 510 adapter from Notcig? Just curious, as I'm desperate for an 'elegant' solution here...

The pill box thing sounds cool and I appreciate the detailed how-to, but I really just want to screw on a carto and get the taste I'm after. There must be a way!

 

[WitchWay]

Ok - it's good to see some evidence here that the 510 carto taste issue on the Buzz isn't just 'in my head'. Didn't think it was. ;-)

To both of you that also have noticed it: were you by any chance using the 901 -> 510 adapter from Notcig? Just curious, as I'm desperate for an 'elegant' solution here...

The pill box thing sounds cool and I appreciate the detailed how-to, but I really just want to screw on a carto and get the taste I'm after. There must be a way!

Glad I could at least validate your finding. However I do not feel it is an issue at least not for me and it definitely isn't specific to the Buzz. If it bothers you, it is a valid issue to you though.

I do also agree it has to do with air draw for the most part, but slight difference in voltages also play a part. It comes down to heat, both air draw and slight voltage differences will cause the heat to be different which makes it taste different. My point was that all PVs are different and thus produce different end results. I don't think it is something you can avoid or fix unless you only use one type of PV. As long as you use different models of PVs you are going to have differences. The only time I found it to be annoying was when I was using my Chameleon and a Tornado. The flavor and vapor production was so completely different between the two that I stopped using the Tornado.

My adapters are old LOL I got them back in Dec-Jan and either from MadVapes or HealthCabin. I do know that even the same two adapters from the same place can give very different results. I think I purchased around 6 adapters and ended up with 2 I liked. The others I gave to Hubby and Dad-In-Law. I found this true with the 510-901 adapters also. Don't know why they do not act the same but they don't. Other models I haven't noticed that problem.

Once again I'm afraid I'm no help, sorry