I would recommend the joye 302's or the be112's. I have not had good luck with the dse801's. They don't last as long for me and the ones I have had did leak some.
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I definitely agree that the BE112 is better than the DSE801, especially for dripping.
Do you think there is much difference between the 302 and the BE112's?
Actually Hit probably is one of the few that would remember why I dont sell the BE112s!!! When I first came out with the Xhaler, the BE112s, dead shorted the connectors due to the larger center pin on them...
Im hooking up my new 510>801 stealth connector I grabbed off of Cisco last night...I will play around today with some 801s and report back....
Drew
Im hooking up my new 510>801 stealth connector I grabbed off of Cisco last night...I will play around today with some 801s and report back....
Drew
I do remember that Drew. I'm still using that same Xhaler too. I use an adapter with the 112's. The joye 302 is a great atty too. I know this might not be the right place to ask but have you gotten much feedback on those new clear cartomizers? I've been thinking about trying some.
I was curious too and bought some they got delivered to my work so ill be able to try them tomorrow
Hmmmm Drew
I was one of your first buyers of the XHaler and I know I use BE112's on mine and still do, you can't use the M402 on it (I think that them- can't get them to fit on anything anymore). I don't think I had a problem with mine and I still use them. I think the only problem I had in the beginning was getting them to fit on the adaptor, but once I was able to fix that it worked. But it could have been a change you did, I remember in the beginning I had to return my XHaler the first couple of weeks and unless something was changed within that time frame. Lately I gone back to the 801's, had forgotting what a good vape it was, NOW JUST WAITING FOR MY DARWIN DREW, Ha Ha. Well I take that back maybe they were another 801. With over 10 801's I guess I mixed them up, tried a few and they wouldn't fit.
I was one of your first buyers of the XHaler and I know I use BE112's on mine and still do, you can't use the M402 on it (I think that them- can't get them to fit on anything anymore). I don't think I had a problem with mine and I still use them. I think the only problem I had in the beginning was getting them to fit on the adaptor, but once I was able to fix that it worked. But it could have been a change you did, I remember in the beginning I had to return my XHaler the first couple of weeks and unless something was changed within that time frame. Lately I gone back to the 801's, had forgotting what a good vape it was, NOW JUST WAITING FOR MY DARWIN DREW, Ha Ha. Well I take that back maybe they were another 801. With over 10 801's I guess I mixed them up, tried a few and they wouldn't fit.
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I have used the 302s, BE112s and DSE 801s. Of the 3 the BE112's have been the best. The 302's produced good vapor but tended to leak. I haven't used a DSE 801 in awhile but remember they didn't last very long. I have had no problems with the BE112s fitting any device I have. They work great with the Darwin using Drew's 801-510 adapter. I like the SR and LR best. The HR seem to need a longer break-in before producing good vapor. Prior to buying the Ato-miser I have been strictly a 801/BE112 vaper. I would be interested in getting one of those stealth adapters. Andel11 you will love your Darwin! I haven't used any of my other PVs since getting the Darwin.
I was actually referring to the first run of Xhalers that had the 801 cap and a 901 cap...The very first one shorted out with the BE112s...I gave ot 901 to 801 adpaters for a while until I had the tips remachined a little wider on the Inside Diameter of the tip.
They are great on the 801 though...I am using a 302 with the Stealth adapter now and am experiencing minmal leaking so far...
Drew
They are great on the 801 though...I am using a 302 with the Stealth adapter now and am experiencing minmal leaking so far...
Drew
I remember those BE112's - I loved those damn things back in the day!
Oh, loving my Darwin today too
Darwin question....To fold or not to fold, that is the question.
Which is better wear & tear wise. Leaving arm open causing screen to say on in between use or folding closed/turning off after each use. I'm not sure whether it's better to wear/tear on the arm or let the screen stay active.
??? Help!
I'm really enjoying the Darwin by the way! I am especially liking the airflow on it, provides less airy hits than my provari. More restriced airflow = a happy me
Oh, loving my Darwin today too
Darwin question....To fold or not to fold, that is the question.
Which is better wear & tear wise. Leaving arm open causing screen to say on in between use or folding closed/turning off after each use. I'm not sure whether it's better to wear/tear on the arm or let the screen stay active.
??? Help!
I'm really enjoying the Darwin by the way! I am especially liking the airflow on it, provides less airy hits than my provari. More restriced airflow = a happy me
Hey Laurel,
Its six of one , half a dozen of the other....They have tested the arms with servo machines opening and closing (thousands of times. I forget how many) and it just seems to loosen up the flip, but not to a fault...Also these screens are not the ones that get a screen burn so , no worries there either...Thanks
Drew
Its six of one , half a dozen of the other....They have tested the arms with servo machines opening and closing (thousands of times. I forget how many) and it just seems to loosen up the flip, but not to a fault...Also these screens are not the ones that get a screen burn so , no worries there either...Thanks
Drew
A point about 801 series attys on Darwin:
I have not experienced any leakage from 801s, BE112s, 302s or 4072s. I cannot speak for anyone else and/or their vaping/dripping experiences. I have noticed condensation accumulating on Darwin body around the brass atty connector elbow. At first I thought this was possible leakage. Further investigation revealed it to be moisture condensation from vapor. When taking a draw on an 801 style, the tube is large enough to hold a bit of vapor in the tube after the draw (after a draw, pull mouthpiece and look). Not always, but often enough, when I go for next draw (especially if very soon after previous) I notice a bit of vapor exiting the bottom of the atty thru the air intake holes. I am not sure if I may possibly still be exhaling just a bit as I put the mouthpiece to my mouth or if it could be a mild bit of backwards air pressure from the heat within the atty still expanding and closing off the exit of the mouthpiece. When this happens a couple times, the moisture in the vapor hits the cooler anodized aluminum body and condensates leaving moisture around the brass elbow. I thought this was leakage from the atty but I have paid close attention and it is not juice - just minimal condensation. Wipe it off with a white tissue and notice no color - even from colored juices.
As I said, I cannot speak for anyone else but if you are seeing this little bit of condensation on the Darwin body around the brass elbow, try wiping it with a white tissue to look for color. Also, look for juice actually on the brass - if it is leaking from an atty, it will obviously be on the brass. I have never yet found any juice on the brass elbow but usually see the condensation on the anodized Darwin body around the brass elbow.
Hope this helps. FWIW, I have now tried everything in my arsenal other than 306s and 901s on the Darwin and have not found a single problem with any. Attys that were in the "poorly functioning" pile come back to life (of course not as well as new but certainly with varying amounts of renewed vigor). I have a newfound appreciation for the 510 but still favor the 302 over all others. I will get to the 306s and 901s but 901 tend to be leaky by nature and I am an all-the-way-dripper when not using my feeder devices. I have tried the CE2 clearomizers - which seem to work well but do have a bit of primer taste (at least in first fill - haven't gotten to a 2nd fill yet). I do not particularly care for having the heating coil so close to my mouth. I prefer to allow the vapor to expand a bit so I modded the CE2 by cutting off the end of the rubber mouthpiece (at narrow), inverting it into clearomizer and shoving an 801 whistle-tip over the exposed end (that normally would go into the clearmizer body). This is not perfectly stable but certainly stable enough and provides some room for the vapor to expand a bit. If I continue to use the CE2s, I will continue to use this mouthpiece. I have tried a few basic cartos on Darwin too. I am not a carto fan but of the several I have tried, I like the 808 CoolCarts at 3.2 ohms the best.
I have not experienced any leakage from 801s, BE112s, 302s or 4072s. I cannot speak for anyone else and/or their vaping/dripping experiences. I have noticed condensation accumulating on Darwin body around the brass atty connector elbow. At first I thought this was possible leakage. Further investigation revealed it to be moisture condensation from vapor. When taking a draw on an 801 style, the tube is large enough to hold a bit of vapor in the tube after the draw (after a draw, pull mouthpiece and look). Not always, but often enough, when I go for next draw (especially if very soon after previous) I notice a bit of vapor exiting the bottom of the atty thru the air intake holes. I am not sure if I may possibly still be exhaling just a bit as I put the mouthpiece to my mouth or if it could be a mild bit of backwards air pressure from the heat within the atty still expanding and closing off the exit of the mouthpiece. When this happens a couple times, the moisture in the vapor hits the cooler anodized aluminum body and condensates leaving moisture around the brass elbow. I thought this was leakage from the atty but I have paid close attention and it is not juice - just minimal condensation. Wipe it off with a white tissue and notice no color - even from colored juices.
As I said, I cannot speak for anyone else but if you are seeing this little bit of condensation on the Darwin body around the brass elbow, try wiping it with a white tissue to look for color. Also, look for juice actually on the brass - if it is leaking from an atty, it will obviously be on the brass. I have never yet found any juice on the brass elbow but usually see the condensation on the anodized Darwin body around the brass elbow.
Hope this helps. FWIW, I have now tried everything in my arsenal other than 306s and 901s on the Darwin and have not found a single problem with any. Attys that were in the "poorly functioning" pile come back to life (of course not as well as new but certainly with varying amounts of renewed vigor). I have a newfound appreciation for the 510 but still favor the 302 over all others. I will get to the 306s and 901s but 901 tend to be leaky by nature and I am an all-the-way-dripper when not using my feeder devices. I have tried the CE2 clearomizers - which seem to work well but do have a bit of primer taste (at least in first fill - haven't gotten to a 2nd fill yet). I do not particularly care for having the heating coil so close to my mouth. I prefer to allow the vapor to expand a bit so I modded the CE2 by cutting off the end of the rubber mouthpiece (at narrow), inverting it into clearomizer and shoving an 801 whistle-tip over the exposed end (that normally would go into the clearmizer body). This is not perfectly stable but certainly stable enough and provides some room for the vapor to expand a bit. If I continue to use the CE2s, I will continue to use this mouthpiece. I have tried a few basic cartos on Darwin too. I am not a carto fan but of the several I have tried, I like the 808 CoolCarts at 3.2 ohms the best.
Haven't seen that happen (at all) on the prototype and have not yet tried a production unit. Monitor and if it continues - your worst case scenario is the comfort of the warranty. I have only read of one warranty issue and the poster sounded very happy with the response time.
know the feeling all too well. My other devices are getting dusty! 
Still loving the Darwin! The design for the body is great feels very comfortable to hold, does not roll when you set it down.
The only modifications I would like to see are to the swing arm. Lengthen the connector a little maybe a quarter to half an inch, add a small well to it and have the diameter change from larger to smaller so it would act like a dam to prevent juice getting back to the body. I would think these would be easy to incorporate into the design.
The only modifications I would like to see are to the swing arm. Lengthen the connector a little maybe a quarter to half an inch, add a small well to it and have the diameter change from larger to smaller so it would act like a dam to prevent juice getting back to the body. I would think these would be easy to incorporate into the design.
Any update on the next batch of Darwin's? I got on the mailing list 1-2 weeks ago and I know I should be patient, but it's so difficult to be patient while lusting after pics of the Darwin day in and day out
Not trying to rush the process or anything, but please hurry, I think I'm going insane.
(could be much, much worse, I know... like the wait on two other devices I was considering prior to this wonderful PV that has captured my heart from afar...)
Not trying to rush the process or anything, but please hurry, I think I'm going insane.
(could be much, much worse, I know... like the wait on two other devices I was considering prior to this wonderful PV that has captured my heart from afar...)
Any update on the next batch of Darwin's? I got on the mailing list 1-2 weeks ago and I know I should be patient, but it's so difficult to be patient while lusting after pics of the Darwin day in and day out
Not trying to rush the process or anything, but please hurry, I think I'm going insane.
(could be much, much worse, I know... like the wait on two other devices I was considering prior to this wonderful PV that has captured my heart from afar...)
LMAO...Beleive me, I understand...Like I have been telling Evolv daily "Dont rush it , but HURRY UP!!!"
I am told the middle of next week is being targeted for the next release. Sorry it hasnt been quicker....REALLY SORRY!!!
Drew
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