The Darwin From Evolv!!!
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Finally I got my Darwin!!!! It was a nightmare as the customs office forgot to notify me on the arrival but after a long battle I managed to grab it today. It was still half charged so could start vaping right in front of the customs! 
Great vapor and great taste. All the praise here is true and I also became a Darwin cultist!
Great vapor and great taste. All the praise here is true and I also became a Darwin cultist!
Finally I got my Darwin!!!! It was a nightmare as the customs office forgot to notify me on the arrival but after a long battle I managed to grab it today. It was still half charged so could start vaping right in front of the customs!
Any other Darwinians in Budapest that you know of?????
Congrats on your Darwin.....
I just spoke to Brandon and he said that the Darwin will only regulate down so far with the LR dual coils ... It will only go as low as aprox. 9 watts...The batteries wont drain any faster then they would at 9 watts with any atty or carto...9 watts power is 9 watts power no matter how you slice it...
So in summary setting the Darwin below 9 watts with any 1.5 or lower carto or atty will be the same as if you set it at 9 watts...I hope I didnt cinfuse everyone as much as I did myself!!! Thanks
Drew
So in summary setting the Darwin below 9 watts with any 1.5 or lower carto or atty will be the same as if you set it at 9 watts...I hope I didnt cinfuse everyone as much as I did myself!!! Thanks
Drew
No, they don't. I think drip shields were designed for the 901. People are also using them with 510s with an adapter to raise the atty up to accommodate the shorter length of the atty. 510s and 901s are the same diameter (same drip tip size). 801s are much wider and the shield will not fit.
I do not know, as I do not have a shield. They "should" fit over the tube but there are no holes in the tube. The base of that carto is wider so I suspect they will not fit over that part. There are small holes in that wider base but you only leak juice from them if you overfill. So, leakage is easily avoided. Personally, I sometimes "top-off" a carto on the device but I "fill" them off the device because I am filling over 1ml of juice (why risk spilling on any device?). Fill them and let them sit for a few minutes. If they don't leak, you should be ok. As you start vaping, you are using up juice and any limited overfill would be quickly absorbed into the carto filler and held. I have just recently started experimenting with these cartos and I like them. I have only one time (out of about 5 fills) had any juice leak from those holes. As with any carto, fill slowly and make sure you are not pooling any juice above the top of the filler. If it looks any wetter than a non-drippy snow cone, place the connector end in a tissue or paper towel and blow gently thru the open end. Any excess juice will blow out into the tissue/paper-towel.
Atty leakage is a result of over-dripping/flooding. Direct dripping is sort of an art. If you add more than you vape, the accumulation over a few drip rounds will eventually result in excessive juice in the cup under the atty coil. with enough accumulation, that excess will leak from the airholes in the connector threads on 510 and 306 attys and from from the downward facing airholes on 801 styles. 901s leak much faster due to the side airhole (the reason the drip shield was invented). So, the "art" of dripping is to develop a level of awareness of the amount you vape vs the amount you drip.
In other words, if you drip 3 drops and vape 2 - then drip 3 drops and vape 2, you can see that the unvaped drop(s) start to accumulate. In short time you have an over-drip/flood situation and will inevitably get leakage. This has nothing to do with any device - this is all the person dripping. Some devices have catch cups to "catch" this leakage. The 510 & 306 attys have the airholes in the threads and can suck up into the atty excess juice accumulated in the "cup". 901s cannot recapture "suck-up" excess juice in a catch cup so some creative people created the drip shield to accomplish the same effect from the side hole.
801 styles pose more of a problem as their air holes point directly down. using the Stealth adapters "can" bring those airholes close enough to a catch cup to allow excess juice in such a cup to be drawn back up the airholes. The problem with most 801s is that the coil and internal cup are higher up the tube so the "suck-up" effect requires that juice to travel farther upwards to reach the coil and wicking materials. So, more often than not, that extra juice - even if drawn back upwards - can leak right back out. There are some exceptions to this but it is a generalization.
Darwin design (folding atty connection) prevents the use of the typical catch cups as any juice would spill when you fold the atty (or if we vape with the atty at an angle). So, while some criticize the absence of a catch cup, learning the art of dripping obviates any need for a cup.
I have been a dedicated dripper since soon after I started vaping. I experienced all of these issues early on. In time, I started paying more attention to the signals that indicate I have vaped out the juice I added. These signals are by no means definitive but they are noticeable if we pay attention. In time, we develop a better sense of the juice in the atty and leakage problems go away. Try non-activation drawing occasionally and listen to the sounds (each atty model will sound a bit different so you have to sort of learn the attys YOU use). If you hear any hint of even the slightest gurgle or liquid movement, do not add more juice yet. Even after that sound goes away, take a hit and if you are getting relatively full flavor - do not add juice yet. Many people think they should add more drops as soon as there is any change in the flavor or vapor production. This is incorrect because you may still have more juice in the internal cup beneath the coil or in the metal fibers of the outer-most wicking material that has not yet wicked to the coil. Take one or two non-activating draws to try sucking juice towards the coil. Then take another activating hit. When you start to get a hint of "dratty" (check the Urban Dictionary = dry atty) taste - this is probably time to add more (but I usually do one more non-activating draw and then hit to be sure).
I know this sounds like a lot but if you pay attention to these steps for about a week, it becomes so unbelievably automatic that you forget you are even doing it. It is sort of like when you first learned to drive; at first it seems like there are a million things to pay attention to but in short time most of them become so automatic you don't realize you are doing them. At least once or twice each day I do about three or four dry burns (about 3 seconds each) to heat up any remaining juice in the atty and then remove it and blow it out. Using 801 style attys, I have not seen a drop leak from the bottom of my attys in a very long time. The only exception is if I leave unvaped juice in an atty and then leave it standing up in a hot car - the juice can leak out the bottom. Never happened on my Darwin (I fold the atty and place in cup holder bottom of device down so atty holes face up).
I hope some find this info helpful. As we have seen, some people try to blame devices for "leaking" but devices cannot leak (well, feeders with juice in them can but not non-feeders). Leakage can only come from juice and if a device has no juice in it - how can it leak? Leakage can only come from attys and attys only leak if they are overfilled.
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Nebula, very useful info! I grabbed a few good tips from it, thank you! The non activated hits were a duh moment, seems like common sense, but I admittedly never do. Just tried it and although the taste was near gone, there must have been some juice in there. Normally I would have dripped some more, but... much appreciated.
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Finally I got my Darwin!!!! It was a nightmare as the customs office forgot to notify me on the arrival but after a long battle I managed to grab it today. It was still half charged so could start vaping right in front of the customs!
Welcome to the cult called darwinia! Sry customs gave you so many problems... so glad I don't have that issue, would drive ne crazy! Just wait until you come to love the battery life, true appreciation of Darwin comes after a couple days of not worrying about battery changes/charging and remembering to carry charged spares.
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I do not know, as I do not have a shield. They "should" fit over the tube but there are no holes in the tube. The base of that carto is wider so I suspect they will not fit over that part. There are small holes in that wider base but you only leak juice from them if you overfill. So, leakage is easily avoided. Personally, I sometimes "top-off" a carto on the device but I "fill" them off the device because I am filling over 1ml of juice (why risk spilling on any device?). Fill them and let them sit for a few minutes. If they don't leak, you should be ok. As you start vaping, you are using up juice and any limited overfill would be quickly absorbed into the carto filler and held. I have just recently started experimenting with these cartos and I like them. I have only one time (out of about 5 fills) had any juice leak from those holes. As with any carto, fill slowly and make sure you are not pooling any juice above the top of the filler. If it looks any wetter than a non-drippy snow cone, place the connector end in a tissue or paper towel and blow gently thru the open end. Any excess juice will blow out into the tissue/paper-towel.
Atty leakage is a result of over-dripping/flooding. Direct dripping is sort of an art. If you add more than you vape, the accumulation over a few drip rounds will eventually result in excessive juice in the cup under the atty coil. with enough accumulation, that excess will leak from the airholes in the connector threads on 510 and 306 attys and from from the downward facing airholes on 801 styles. 901s leak much faster due to the side airhole (the reason the drip shield was invented). So, the "art" of dripping is to develop a level of awareness of the amount you vape vs the amount you drip.
In other words, if you drip 3 drops and vape 2 - then drip 3 drops and vape 2, you can see that the unvaped drop(s) start to accumulate. In short time you have an over-drip/flood situation and will inevitably get leakage. This has nothing to do with any device - this is all the person dripping. Some devices have catch cups to "catch" this leakage. The 510 & 306 attys have the airholes in the threads and can suck up into the atty excess juice accumulated in the "cup". 901s cannot recapture "suck-up" excess juice in a catch cup so some creative people created the drip shield to accomplish the same effect from the side hole.
801 styles pose more of a problem as their air holes point directly down. using the Stealth adapters "can" bring those airholes close enough to a catch cup to allow excess juice in such a cup to be drawn back up the airholes. The problem with most 801s is that the coil and internal cup are higher up the tube so the "suck-up" effect requires that juice to travel farther upwards to reach the coil and wicking materials. So, more often than not, that extra juice - even if drawn back upwards - can leak right back out. There are some exceptions to this but it is a generalization.
Darwin design (folding atty connection) prevents the use of the typical catch cups as any juice would spill when you fold the atty (or if we vape with the atty at an angle). So, while some criticize the absence of a catch cup, learning the art of dripping obviates any need for a cup.
I have been a dedicated dripper since soon after I started vaping. I experienced all of these issues early on. In time, I started paying more attention to the signals that indicate I have vaped out the juice I added. These signals are by no means definitive but they are noticeable if we pay attention. In time, we develop a better sense of the juice in the atty and leakage problems go away. Try non-activation drawing occasionally and listen to the sounds (each atty model will sound a bit different so you have to sort of learn the attys YOU use). If you hear any hint of even the slightest gurgle or liquid movement, do not add more juice yet. Even after that sound goes away, take a hit and if you are getting relatively full flavor - do not add juice yet. Many people think they should add more drops as soon as there is any change in the flavor or vapor production. This is incorrect because you may still have more juice in the internal cup beneath the coil or in the metal fibers of the outer-most wicking material that has not yet wicked to the coil. Take one or two non-activating draws to try sucking juice towards the coil. Then take another activating hit. When you start to get a hint of "dratty" (check the Urban Dictionary = dry atty) taste - this is probably time to add more (but I usually do one more non-activating draw and then hit to be sure).
I know this sounds like a lot but if you pay attention to these steps for about a week, it becomes so unbelievably automatic that you forget you are even doing it. It is sort of like when you first learned to drive; at first it seems like there are a million things to pay attention to but in short time most of them become so automatic you don't realize you are doing them. At least once or twice each day I do about three or four dry burns (about 3 seconds each) to heat up any remaining juice in the atty and then remove it and blow it out. Using 801 style attys, I have not seen a drop leak from the bottom of my attys in a very long time. The only exception is if I leave unvaped juice in an atty and then leave it standing up in a hot car - the juice can leak out the bottom. Never happened on my Darwin (I fold the atty and place in cup holder bottom of device down so atty holes face up).
I hope some find this info helpful. As we have seen, some people try to blame devices for "leaking" but devices cannot leak (well, feeders with juice in them can but not non-feeders). Leakage can only come from juice and if a device has no juice in it - how can it leak? Leakage can only come from attys and attys only leak if they are overfilled.
I need to post this on my site I think....I feel like I just spent 5 minutes in a DripUversity class or something...I also learned a few things and think that I forget these steps when frequently changing from one atty to another and think that they all work the same...Great post. Thanks
Drew
Congrats, CyberDj! Welcome to the "cult"!
Nebula, I guess I'm still learning to drive! That was fantastic info for me, too. Like Krispy, I really never thought about the non-activation drawing, even tho I've heard mention of it several times. I just now tried it, at the very point I was about to drip some more, and wouldn't you know it, there was definitely still juice available in the atty. Who knows, maybe the "air" hits will reduce my chain vaping, and I'll be able to enjoy more really good puffs... and less splotchy paper towels! Thank you.
Ok, it IS time to drip now.
Nebula, I guess I'm still learning to drive! That was fantastic info for me, too. Like Krispy, I really never thought about the non-activation drawing, even tho I've heard mention of it several times. I just now tried it, at the very point I was about to drip some more, and wouldn't you know it, there was definitely still juice available in the atty. Who knows, maybe the "air" hits will reduce my chain vaping, and I'll be able to enjoy more really good puffs... and less splotchy paper towels! Thank you.
Ok, it IS time to drip now.
Thanks for checking Drew. The quick drain could also have been caused by chain vaping I guess. You know how it is when you get something new and it works good
So at its lowest setting its still putting out 9 watts? Wow. I'm still trying to figure out how to loosen the draw on the dual coils on the Darwin. They work fine on the ego no cone. I just don't see why its so tight with the Darwin.
Thanks! Yeah I start to feel it! I got it at 2 pm here local time. Now it is 0:30 am and still no charging needed (when I opened the box it was a bit below half) and I have not put it down for a minute!
Thanks for checking Drew, that makes me feel better. Especially since the dual-coils work so well. If Brandon says it's good, then it's good!
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