The Darwin From Evolv!!!

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Drewsworld

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Its all the Darwins for sale right now.


Greetings Darwinians, hope that's the right terminology still :)

Quick question, do all these recent upgrades (better precision in the dial, stiffer swing arm, built in adapter\extension, no longer screen flickers, blue screen, etc.), I've read about in this thread, now come standard now when purchasing a new Darwin on the nHaler site or were these upgrades just added to the Darwins for those that had to send theirs in for warranty service??

Thanks for the help and input :)
 

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Got mine in at 10 AM this morning after ordering yesterday. I regretted paying for the Express shipping, but not anymore.

I love this thing, thanks Drew! I've never seen the old screen in person, but I do really like the blue screen.

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Got mine in at 10 AM this morning after ordering yesterday. I regretted paying for the Express shipping, but not anymore.

I love this thing, thanks Drew! I've never seen the old screen in person, but I do really like the blue screen.

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I like the way it looks. Very nice set-up you got on your Darwin.
 

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MAIN feature to me is the Variable Power (watts) technology....put on a 3.ohm atty and set the wattage where you like it....put on a 2.0 ohm atty and just vape .... no change in the setting needed....the Darwin automatically adjusts.....

Sax- you don't have to change...many here have a ProVari and a Darwin (or 2, or 3, or 4).
 
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okay, so tell me why I should change :) I am looking for different MODs. I have a ProVari and it does very well. Give me the quick scoop, see the main reason I didn't buy in the first place (out of stock) talk to me...please!

I just love how darn easy the Darwin is to use. It fits my lifestyle since I'm rarely away from a power source more than a few days.

1. I don't have to mess with swapping batteries. I just top it off when I'm sleeping or sitting at the computer...on long car trips I usually just leave it plugged in as a battery passthrough. Easy as pie to pull it off the cord when I get out of the car. If I know I'll be away from a charger for a long time, I trick it out with an HV single coil carto and the battery easily lasts me a few days (3 to 4 ml a day).

2. Instant adjustment with the wheel.

3. Goes great in my back pocket (I usually use Mega sized cartos like Visions, Giantomizers, Echo, etc when on the go, as they last all day for me and the arm still folds up).

4. It can easily crank out voltages up to 12volts, has a nice high 3amp current ceiling so it can easily drive most cartos up to 12.7 watts...way more than I need usually, but it can do it :) Long battery life in a great ergonomic package. The thing is really solid, yet lighter than most mods that can deliver this kind of power and vape time.

5. Love the shape of the thing, and the flexibility of the swinging arm. It's kind of like getting a free goose-neck with the deal :) Darwin gives me a nice flat platform for running tanks, or dripping one handed.

6. Great warranty!
 
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okay, so tell me why I should change :) I am looking for different MODs. I have a ProVari and it does very well. Give me the quick scoop, see the main reason I didn't buy in the first place (out of stock) talk to me...please!

Sax look through this thread and you will see I also have a Vari (along with many other cool MODs). The Darwin is the ONLY top end MOD that I have several of. For me there are many things I like on top of what retird has posted. Mainly the pocketability of the unit. I travel often and the Darwin is just a great fit for that. No extra batts/chargers to tote around and I charge off the computer USB. The Vari seldom leaves the house. The Darwin fits well in a pair of jeans or a suit coat pocket. This MOD is not for everyone but there are certainly many long time vapers (1+ years) that have tried many MOD's and once the Darwin was in hand those MOD's have had a nice vacation. Another thing about this unit is if you find it does not fit your needs they rarely stay on the classies for more than a few hours. So I would suggest you give it shot and since you enjoy the Vari and understand the value that VV brings you will most likely love the VP performance of this MOD. Happy vapes
 
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fits in the hand, doesnt roll away, changing of watts, good for checking attys, gives amazing flavor, change watts with a wheel instead of 13 clicks so its easy to adjust.. vaptamist, you have both, tell him what you think!

Wait just a minute ime are describing the Darwin or the perfect women here????????
 

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Heya! I wrote a quick "first impressions" review, so I'll share! Before that - a disclaimer. I've used this mod for a few HOURS. You can get a similar vaping experience off of BOTH of these devices (i.e. the BEST vape ever). The difference seems to be the journey you take to get there, and which one fits your vaping style better. I'm not a tank or carto person. The Darwin suits my atty/juice ADHD. I usually vape maybe 9 or 10 drops of e liquid before changing flavors and atomizers. With everything said below, I still highly recommend the Provari, and would never discourage anyone who is looking to get one . The craftmanship and functionality of it is amazing.

Pure performance wise it's very similar to the Provari. I'm vaping Ecopure Regular at 12 watts. I'm on a 2.9 ohm Cisco 510, so that's 6 volts. I took the atty off and put it on my Provari at 6 volts and it's almost identical vapor and taste.

The difference comes down to things like how it feels when you hold it. I like the way the Darwin fits in your hand. It feels suprisingly good. I like that it's not a tube mod. I'm always paranoid I'm going to knock my Provari over while it's sitting on a table vertically. I don't like putting it horizontal - I'm paranoid it will roll off my desk. I really like the adjustable arm. I really like being able to swap atty's easily, without doing the following:

13 clicks to check atty resistance
5 clicks to check voltage (too low? more clicks)
If too high wait a few seconds and click 7 times to lower it.

I find myself overshooting the provari menus, or overshooting voltage and then either having to click all the way through 6 volts back to 3.3, or having to wait and then go to Pd or Pu to readjust. This I don't have to adjust at all, unless I'm using a different juice that I want to try at a different heat.

I think I would feel better using this in the car. I feel awkward using the provari, and I'm always worried about it rolling on to the floor if I set it down, etc.

The one difference is I think the provari would work better with tanks, etc. The Darwin doesn't do too well with that because the way the arm closes.

I still have a lot of LR atty's as well, and run into E2 errors a lot with the Provari due to the safety features.

Anyway - these are just my initial impressions. I still love my Provari. If I can ever find a liquid I can stick with for longer than 5 minutes...
 
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vaptamist - that is a fair comparison in my book. Both Mod's are top of the line and there is a spot for both in my daily vaping routine but the Darwin certainly sees the majority of my button presses :).

On the Vari I understand the waiting issue you have posted and I am responding with a tip. I am not sure if you know this but a good smack on the bottom will eliminate the wait time. Seems today I am seeing many likenesses between my Mods and my wife :). What I mean is when LED screen is lit and you have dialed in what you want then slap the vari end cap into the palm of your hand. You do not need to do this very hard but the weight of the batt will depress the spring jusy enough that contact is lost and screen is immediately cleared.
 

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Thank you all for the comments. I think it is all about checking them all as I think "everything" is subjective and personal as well. So I am guessing not a lot of tank users here with the darwin? I really like to set up my juice and get on with my day. What would work for me in that regard? I have the cart open anything extra I should order??? Thanks for the help!
 

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Nice work! Cant wait till you get them up for sale - will get right in line - PP in hand. I'm looking for a good tank can't seem to find one that works for me. Doesn't necessarily have to be a Darwin tank (althought that would be sweet). I had a DC Map and a Liquidnator and found them to be difficult to refill. My ideal tank would have a way to syringe fill - hated taking them apart to top 'em off.

My only hesitation is that I hated taking the tops off of the Map and Liquidnator tanks - . How are these to refill?

You really do not HAVE to remove the top-cap on most tanks to needle fill. The only tank I know of that requires removal of the top-cap is the LavaTank (and that is because the top-cap/mouthpiece is all one part. With tanks that have separate top-cap and drip-tip, you can remove the drip-tip and slide the tank upwards (carto downwards) until the top edge of the carto is inside the tank and clear of the topcap. Using a needle bottle - like this one: 1/2 OZ BOTTLE W/NEEDLE TIP (or others at various ecig venders), or syringes - you can leave the gap between the top edge of the carto and the inner edge of the top-cap to just enough to slip in the needle and fill. Then push the carto back up into the to-cap and replace your drip-tip to enjoy your full tank. It is easy, fast and leaves you with a very full tank. If you are concerned about possible leakage from the bottom of the tank (I rarely see this - but it can depend on the internal O-ring inside the bottom-cap), wrap a tissue or paper towel around the base of the carto as you slide the tank upwards so that the tissue or paper towel will absorb any possible leakage. Leave the tissue or paper towel wrapped around the base until you push the carto back up into place.

Another trick I learned along the way: forcing new cartos thru the bottom-cap, the top edge of the carto can chafe the internal O-ring (with each new carto edge scraping against the O-ring a little more chafing occurs) and can wear down the internal O-ring. Over time, this will reduce the seal around the carto and can allow leakage and eventually the O-ring can tear apart. To prevent this, place a tapered drip-tip (one that has bottom edge flush with the edges of the carto = no overhang) on the carto before pushing it thru the bottom cap and then remove it once the top edge of the carto in inside of the tube and has cleared the O-ring. The smoother surface of the drip-tip is less wearing against the O-ring.

Greetings Darwinians, hope that's the right terminology still :)

Quick question, do all these recent upgrades (better precision in the dial, stiffer swing arm, built in adapter\extension, no longer screen flickers, blue screen, etc.), I've read about in this thread, now come standard now when purchasing a new Darwin on the nHaler site or were these upgrades just added to the Darwins for those that had to send theirs in for warranty service??

Thanks for the help and input :)

From what I have learned, some of these may become permanent changes and others may be trials of different components, etc. Those who have followed this thread know that Evolv is constantly "evolving" their product, monitoring warranty returns, feedback and - even above that - looking for other creative ways to improve the device.

This is how it was explained to me and I am saddened to see posts - even ones in jest - that suggest people might look for reasons to send in their Darwins thinking they may get newer components. From what I understand, some of these may only be trials/experiments and I would guess there is no certainty that any device sent in for warranty repair will necessarily receive new components or internals.

Granted, for well over the first 6 to 8 months after the Darwin release, Evolv did send out replacements but they have never been obligated to do that (their choice to sometimes even send overnight - absorbing that cost {$20+ each time} - was also something they did for their customers that they were under no obligation to provide). They chose to do so but the warranty, like ALL warranties, gives them the options to repair or replace at their discretion. As Evolv was a brand new company, with a brand new product, personally I think the early replacements was a nice way to start out and make sure their customers were happy but they certainly were under no obligations to do these things. It is abundantly obvious, to any who bother to read even parts of this thread, that Evolv's customer service is unmatched anywhere. This paragraph is NOT aimed at your post ED, but your post (and this reply) provided an opportunity to share my perspective on this issue. Unfortunately, I suspect, there are those who would take advantage of Brandon's (and Evolv's) good natured intentions and over-the-top customer service. Given how they seem to bend over backwards to make us all happy with the product, I find that thought upsetting.

Sorry for my little errant rant and I hope this post proves helpful to those I was responding to and others who may be following the thread.
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vaptamist, when I started getting into tanks I bought a Provari because I thought it would be a better match, but I have actually come to love tanks on my Darwin. Sure I can't close the arm and need to remove the tank to pocket it, but from an ergonomic perspective I find it more comfortable to hold and vape than I did the Provari. I also agree it's an awesome mod, but it just wasn't for me (just a matter of preference, nothing more) and I have since parted ways with it.
Using larger items on a Darwin can take some getting used to, but I find that swiveling arm coupled with the button placement and form of the body to make for a very comfortable-to-vape experience with pretty much anything :)

Obviously, everyone's opinions will differ, but that's my :2c: ;-)
 
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