The Dehydration Myth

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I seem to live right on the edge of dehydration at all times, anyway. If there is the slightest extra loss of moisture (EXCESSIVE sweating -- hot flashes here -- crying -- menopause here ;) ), I get the most excruciating leg cramps in the night. So, a) the 64oz of water per day, not a myth at all; in fact, more is even better -- the body is about, what, 86% water? BUT! you don't have to get it all from plain water -- any non-alcoholic, non-caffeinated beverage counts (even thin soup!); and b) vaping does seem to increase the need for water -- when I first started doing this pretty regular, the leg cramps informed me with a vengeance that I needed to INCREASE my already-prodigious water consumption. And now that I AM doing this pretty regularly, and smoking less and less all the time, I do notice a dry mouth/throat more often. It seems counter-intuitive; stop breathing smoke, start breathing vapor -- seems like you'd need less, doesn't it? But you do in fact need more.

*shrug* The weirdness of life.

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OMG right? Then add living in the deep south! I know other alternatives are fine, and caffeine won't dehydrate much, but the importance of water can't be denied. Those cramps are brutal. I will arch up in my bed like the kid in The Exorcist when they strike and curse myself the entire time for slacking on the water. When I first started vaping my entire nose, sinuses felt like someone had sucked the water right out for the first few days.

And I have the permanent type of kidney stones that live in a little pocket in my kidney so water is a must anyhow.
 

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Yup, hydrate more if you are vaping. It's the first thing I said. I think there is good infomation in the article being a new vapor or not.

Good information and the politicly controlled Huffington post do not go hand in hand.
This same publication has posted negative and entirely false articles on "ecigs" on a few occasions.
 

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It use to be too dangerous to drink water...back in the day.:)

I only drank soda, energy drinks, and juice...I had water when I was working outside in summer or playing hockey, but I never drank water. After vaping for about 8months, I would start drinking a little bit of water from being so thirsty. I drink at least 2 liters a day now, but I could always drink more..always thirsty.
 

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OMG right? Then add living in the deep south! I know other alternatives are fine, and caffeine won't dehydrate much, but the importance of water can't be denied. Those cramps are brutal. I will arch up in my bed like the kid in The Exorcist when they strike and curse myself the entire time for slacking on the water. When I first started vaping my entire nose, sinuses felt like someone had sucked the water right out for the first few days.

Exactly right about the deep south... I first figured out the link between my sweating and leg cramps when we were house-hunting in Aug '11 ... one day it must have been 97 outside... sweat running off me like I'd just climbed out of a pool, dripping off my nose and chin, etc... and that night BOTH legs, in BOTH DIRECTIONS... front and back of leg... dear god it was just unbearable -- our little cat, only a few months old then, was staring at me cussing and stomping up and down the carport like I had lost my flippin' mind.. it was hiliarious, even WITH the awful pain. Then my brilliant! son said, hey, have you tried Gatorade? I'm like, well I might, if I could STAND THE TASTE OF IT! He then suggested Powerade, and that was a god-send... the taste is much better than Gatorade, and it REALLY HELPS!!! If I drink a glass before bed, I usually don't get them. If I forget and wake up with the godawful cramps, THEN I drink the Powerade while stomping around cussing, and that helps too. (I'm not sure if the cussing helps the cramps, but it does seem to help ME!) :p


And I have the permanent type of kidney stones that live in a little pocket in my kidney so water is a must anyhow.

EEEK! That sounds awful; I've had one kidney stone in my life that I know of, and it was the most EXCRUCIATING pain, right up there with abscessed teeth. I know it had to have been a stone, because when I woke up the next morning, the pain was.. just gone. Like it was never there. :confused:

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I got a lecture from a nurse after a urine test. It was dark. Well yes it's dark, I told her I was taking 400mg of vitamin B2 for migraines which is 23528% of the RDA and that's one of the B's that makes your urine yellow. She didn't care, I needed to drink 8 glasses of water a day, and of course other liquids don't count because magically our bodies have forgotten how to extract water from other liquids and foods.
People have gone nuts.
 

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She's not just nuts, she's entirely misinformed. If it's not alcoholic, caffeinated, or carbonated, it *does* count -- but that 64oz is just a minimum, so you should drink that much water/juice/non-carbo-caff-alki bevs, plus the other water you get in your food.

I hate it when medical people are that ignorant -- didn't they pay good money to go to school??? Like those idiots telling me at 48 I was too young for menopause. Tell it to my ovaries, because they didn't get that memo. :p

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I am lucky because I have always been a big water drinker, so haven't had to up my intake since starting vaping. I am always surprised at how many people tell me they don't like to drink water. I had a friend years ago who hardly ever drank water, just tons and tons of Dr. Pepper, her favorite. She had recurring kidney and bladder problems, too. Her doctor finally got through to her when he said: Water is necessary to wash out your system. Would you wash your car with Dr. Pepper?
 

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She's not just nuts, she's entirely misinformed. If it's not alcoholic, caffeinated, or carbonated, it *does* count -- but that 64oz is just a minimum, so you should drink that much water/juice/non-carbo-caff-alki bevs, plus the other water you get in your food.

I hate it when medical people are that ignorant -- didn't they pay good money to go to school??? Like those idiots telling me at 48 I was too young for menopause. Tell it to my ovaries, because they didn't get that memo. :p

Andria

About ignorant medical people - What do they call the person who graduated last in their class in medical school? Doctor.:)
 

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The 8 glasses of water thing started about the same time people started buying/selling drinking water. Makes you wonder?
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Actually I was told to drink the 8 glasses of water back when I was in weight watchers as a chubby teenager, so the 8 glasses has been around over 40 years. Yea I am that old lol. I've read lately it's not absolutely water but good liquid, as in not beer and so on. I always feel better when I hydrate better. sometimes I consider carrying a knot line to keep track of my intake, the more mindful of it you are the apt you are to do it.
 

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Ouch! Never heard of permanent stones. Ultrasonics won't help break them up, huh? Good luck, hope you're well.

We all know the obvious, what goes in must come out. Getting up and down more often, and "draining the phaser," so to speak, is a small price to pay to avoid the dreaded crystaline Meat Meteors.

I forget the technical term...nonobstructive I think it was. They generally don't bother me unless I really really slack off on fluid intake.
 

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She's not just nuts, she's entirely misinformed. If it's not alcoholic, caffeinated, or carbonated, it *does* count -- but that 64oz is just a minimum, so you should drink that much water/juice/non-carbo-caff-alki bevs, plus the other water you get in your food.

I hate it when medical people are that ignorant -- didn't they pay good money to go to school??? Like those idiots telling me at 48 I was too young for menopause. Tell it to my ovaries, because they didn't get that memo. :p

Andria

Actually carbonated and caffeinated do count. I think alcohol does take water to remove but alcohol doesn't negate the water that is in the alcoholic beverage you are drinking.
 

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Exactly right about the deep south... I first figured out the link between my sweating and leg cramps when we were house-hunting in Aug '11 ... one day it must have been 97 outside... sweat running off me like I'd just climbed out of a pool, dripping off my nose and chin, etc... and that night BOTH legs, in BOTH DIRECTIONS... front and back of leg... dear god it was just unbearable -- our little cat, only a few months old then, was staring at me cussing and stomping up and down the carport like I had lost my flippin' mind.. it was hiliarious, even WITH the awful pain. Then my brilliant! son said, hey, have you tried Gatorade? I'm like, well I might, if I could STAND THE TASTE OF IT! He then suggested Powerade, and that was a god-send... the taste is much better than Gatorade, and it REALLY HELPS!!! If I drink a glass before bed, I usually don't get them. If I forget and wake up with the godawful cramps, THEN I drink the Powerade while stomping around cussing, and that helps too. (I'm not sure if the cussing helps the cramps, but it does seem to help ME!) :p




EEEK! That sounds awful; I've had one kidney stone in my life that I know of, and it was the most EXCRUCIATING pain, right up there with abscessed teeth. I know it had to have been a stone, because when I woke up the next morning, the pain was.. just gone. Like it was never there. :confused:

Andria

I've had so much dental pain up until a few years ago, the kidney stones that WERE the passing variety were tylenol level pain yay tolerance! Unless I hit my head or stub my toes then I'm dying of course.
 

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I've had so much dental pain up until a few years ago, the kidney stones that WERE the passing variety were tylenol level pain yay tolerance! Unless I hit my head or stub my toes then I'm dying of course.

I've lived with all kinds of dental pain since I was in my early 20s.. just bad genetics. The stone I had, I dunno, I suppose I passed it, though not in any way that I noticed. The pain (AGONY!) was in my back, right at the area of the kidney. It felt like there was a burning hot SPIKE, INSIDE my back. Heating pad made it worse, and though I usually HATE ice anywhere on my person for any reason, that time, it was the only thing that helped at all. But when I woke up... just gone. Poof! I guess it was just trapped in a bad spot, and eventually moved, and was small enough that I didn't notice passing it. Nice thing about being a woman, I guess. :D

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Actually carbonated and caffeinated do count. I think alcohol does take water to remove but alcohol doesn't negate the water that is in the alcoholic beverage you are drinking.

Caffeine is a diuretic; it makes you pee more than the fluid you take in. Alcohol displaces water, which is the reason for that GODAWFUL headache, the morning after. Neither is good for hydration. I've always heard that carbonated water is not good for your kidneys, though I don't know the actual scientific reason why; maybe the sodium (which dehydrates!).

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