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Errol

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yep...it really can be kind of daunting trying to explain voltage and regulation when it comes to batteries and how folks should buy based on that instead of type or brand name. It is easier IMHO to go from a 510 battery to an 808/901 thread due to the adapter being much shorter profile (aka the madvapes shorty that only adds only 1mm length to a battery)

Again, you justify my often unheard voice. 808/910 just perform better as far as atty's and carts. One of these days I'll get to the bottom of it but nothing smoke tech or boge puts out in 510 compares to the same in a 808/910 version (example: the 2.0 901 by ST-WOW!) and the 510 version of the echo cart just does not compare to it's 808 brother.

Then again....it sort of makes sense....you never see a 510 slim style user step up to defend their choice of analog style like the almost cult like worshipers of the KR808d-1. probably a reason for it, no?

Have never had any experience with that vaping device but it certainly does have a loyal audience.

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I use these drip tips on my Echomizers. They're 95 cents a piece and fit perfectly, so you can't really go wrong there. I have one in every color so I can tell my flavors apart.

Why do I keep forgetting about that? :facepalm:

Have never had any experience with that vaping device but it certainly does have a loyal audience.

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No reason to start. Only reason I still do is because I have them. They're powerful for such little bats, though
 

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Then again....it sort of makes sense....you never see a 510 slim style user step up to defend their choice of analog style like the almost cult like worshipers of the KR808d-1. probably a reason for it, no?

Came back to me during the night why the KR808d-1 became a so popular so fast. It was the first to be shipped with true 3.7v bats, I assume 4.2 fully charged, and that made the entire 510, 808/901 lineup look like a bunch of sissies with their 3v +-0.2v bats.

I'm quoting voltages from memory, I know that the original eGo fat bats had a 3.2v limiter and I pretty sure my original eGo mini bats were 3v or less but I could be wrong on the less part. At any rate the difference in vaping satisfaction between a 3.2v eGo and a fully charged 4.2v KR808d would have been huge.

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that's correct Errol. It's why "upgrading" to an ego became the most miserable experience of my vaping life. Then I read "well you should try the boge or try this clearomizer or try the 1.7ohm this or that and I just wanted a good vape. These were all threads I was reading as a lurker. Maybe if I had asked someone would have pointed me to a Kgo/Riva but luckily there's the echo.

Now I still do fool around buying new stuff that catches my eye but I've found my go to PV that should I want, I could probably easily go back to vaping on a 40 budget or less by buying a new 5pack of carts and some juice. (and of cource some new tips, right Arthistorygirl?)
 

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I use these drip tips on my Echomizers. They're 95 cents a piece and fit perfectly, so you can't really go wrong there. I have one in every color so I can tell my flavors apart.
Has anyone measured these with a micrometer? I'd be curious to see the actual diameter of these tips. The aluminum 801's I have are 9.98-10mm and just a tad too big. They need to be 9.90-9.93mm.
 

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that's correct Errol. It's why "upgrading" to an ego became the most miserable experience of my vaping life. Then I read "well you should try the boge or try this clearomizer or try the 1.7ohm this or that and I just wanted a good vape. These were all threads I was reading as a lurker. Maybe if I had asked someone would have pointed me to a Kgo/Riva but luckily there's the echo.

Now I still do fool around buying new stuff that catches my eye but I've found my go to PV that should I want, I could probably easily go back to vaping on a 40 budget or less by buying a new 5pack of carts and some juice. (and of cource some new tips, right Arthistorygirl?)

I've pretty much solved all my vaping desires with my VV units, 901 atties and the Echo cart. That said I've read so much about Isaac and his products at IkenVape Store, particularly the i06 at their beta testing site that I decided to try one along with a 808 and 901 carto. Just read their 901 beta test site http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ikenvape/164159-beta-901-carto-thread.html and I'm quite impressed with what I read. If mine is anything like what they are saying it may become my new go to carto at $1.75.

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good because I'm using kr808s to test my juice first but I've noticed kanger horizontals can have a funny taste. Nice to have another option. I'm sure I couldn't rely on it for long ventures away from home but if you are telling me I can have a small 1ml carto that tastes/produces as well as a 901 atty at 2.0...:banana:...I'm as skeptical as the folks at the beginning of this thread and must have some.
 

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Has anyone measured these with a micrometer? I'd be curious to see the actual diameter of these tips. The aluminum 801's I have are 9.98-10mm and just a tad too big. They need to be 9.90-9.93mm.

The 801's I got from N-haler were to big also but I got some other aluminum tips from someone else and they fit so I've been hesitant to buy any unless someone has tried them.
 

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The 801's I got from N-haler were to big also but I got some other aluminum tips from someone else and they fit so I've been hesitant to buy any unless someone has tried them.

I don't know the diameter, but I know they'll fit. Here's a pic of a few on my Echomizers. They were a little tight the first time I put them on, but they work great now.

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Dumb question I am sure, so sorry! But, ok, I am living my echo so much. But I need to be able to test juice without using 3 ml each time. What is the recommendation for what to use? I would love to get something to use with my echo battery. But if something else works better pls let me know. I am willing to purchase something more within reason, not like $100, lol.
I am NOT good at dripping, btw. I got a special dripping atom and I can't do it without burning. I use it with an 808 batt and the thingy that makes them fit together, as the atom is 510. Sorry for using such dumb language, my brain is still asleep. I add this as dripping seems to be the cool way to try out juices but I stink at it.
Thanks for any and all help!!! Xox


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Sorry to disappoint you but dripping is the only way you can test juices. You just have to put enough juice in the atomizer before taking a drag(around 3-7 drops depending on the nozzle bottle you're using).

Dumb question I am sure, so sorry! But, ok, I am living my echo so much. But I need to be able to test juice without using 3 ml each time. What is the recommendation for what to use? I would love to get something to use with my echo battery. But if something else works better pls let me know. I am willing to purchase something more within reason, not like $100, lol.
I am NOT good at dripping, btw. I got a special dripping atom and I can't do it without burning. I use it with an 808 batt and the thingy that makes them fit together, as the atom is 510. Sorry for using such dumb language, my brain is still asleep. I add this as dripping seems to be the cool way to try out juices but I stink at it.
Thanks for any and all help!!! Xox


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If you don't want to drip the next best thing is to use a 808d carto that holds about one ml instead of the 3.4 ml Echo.

Yep, that's the right page. I don't care for the Delrin plastic tips because in my experience they seem to collect more condensation than the aluminum. I have 3 chrome tips I ordered from I for forget where and 5 colored aluminum drip tips from Vapor Kings. Colors are, (all aluminum) black, silver, red, gold and purple Ikenvape has been out of the whistle tips for ages. I prefer the whistle tips but since the source is not there any more I decided to go with this type. The rubber whistle tips that come with the echomizers don't stay put very long............I've already lost 2.

Hi all. Ordered echo starter kit last night and some extra dual coil carts and also some smaller 808s. Want to sample my juice samples in smaller cart than the 3ml echomizers. Have I got the right gear or do I need drip tips and attys? brand new to this stuff ... Just got paroled from the new member forum :). .... I have sample kits on the way and need to know if I will be able to actually do this right. Would hate to wait another week with all the gear here except for some crucial component I didn't think to order!
(Sorry if my terminology is off...still getting the lingo down!)
 

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Dumb question I am sure, so sorry! But, ok, I am living my echo so much. But I need to be able to test juice without using 3 ml each time. What is the recommendation for what to use? I would love to get something to use with my echo battery. But if something else works better pls let me know. I am willing to purchase something more within reason, not like $100, lol.
I am NOT good at dripping, btw. I got a special dripping atom and I can't do it without burning. I use it with an 808 batt and the thingy that makes them fit together, as the atom is 510. Sorry for using such dumb language, my brain is still asleep. I add this as dripping seems to be the cool way to try out juices but I stink at it.
Thanks for any and all help!!! Xox


Apparently you have a 510 atty with a 808 to 510 adapter. What I don't understand is the burning part but assume you are burning the juice. Not sure why you are having problems, pull the mouth piece off the atty and drip directly into the open end until you can see liquid accumulating around the bridge or until it starts leaking out the bottom. Depending on the atty that can be between 8 and 15 drops, my new 901 take 15 drops. If it gurgles when your start vaping pull it off and blow the excess out. You should get 8 to 15 puffs before you have to add more liquid, usually three drops. Add more drops anytime it starts tasting different. It's fairly simple so I'm sure a little practice will have you dripping in no time. Other than the nuisance of dripping every few minutes it really is the most satisfying vape for many people, myself included.

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I only had problems with the echo.. :( I read all those great reviews and decided to order a starters kit 2 weeks ago.

At first waaw, amazing all that vapor production, but less than 5 days later BOTH battery's broke, it was impossible to drag on them. (I never leaked juice in them) I send them back, and yesterday I got 2 new battery's, today one of the battery's is doing crazy, the light is coming on constantly while it is sitting on the table, it doesn't drag anymore, the battery just doesn't work anymore.
I think I leaked juice in ths battery (had a bad carto that started leaking after 10 draws)

What can I do with this battery? Is there a way to clean the battery inside?
Does echo sell normal batterys (the one with the button?) Or is there a battery that fits for the carto's?

Or should I just try something else?
 
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