The facts about cleaning atomizers...

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Well, what ARE the facts then?

Here is what I have learned from reading this forum constantly for almost a year now, combined with my own experience, and combined with a sprinkling of logic...

1) Yes, atomizers should be cleaned for best results
2) No, cleaning an atomizer should not kill it, dpending on what you use of course
3) If you think you killed an atomizer by cleaning it, you probably didn't let it dry enough
4) The atomizer wick fibers do not burn
5) The atomizer wick fibers do not melt


Let me start with some background on atomizer construction.
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The atomizer has a wick made of some kind of fiber that DOES NOT BURN and DOES NOT MELT so forget all about that. This is important to understand, because that burnt taste is NOT the wicking strands burning or melting.

The atomizer coil sits in a little ceramic pot that is surrounded by metal mesh, probably the same mesh that covers the atomizer bridge but I'm not sure.


Why should you clean an atomizer?

1) Because the coil mesh can get clogged with dried juice
2) Becase the coil itself, or the wicking strands, absolutely WILL get built up baked on gunk


Cleaning Method (1)

When the coil mesh gets clogged a bit, you should simply clean it using any of the hundreds of methods discussed here. But simple hot water works just as well as anything more complicated. All you have to do is free up the dried out juice, and hot water seems to be enough to do that.

Just make sure you dry it long enough though!

1) I'm thinking around 36 hours
2) Or throw it in the oven at 150 degrees for 20 minutes
3) Or use a blow dryer
4) Or use the Highping dry burn method discussed below


Cleaning method (2)

When the coil itself needs cleaning, to get off baked on gunk, that is a different story. Nobody has really found any cleaning substance that I am aware of other than ice machine cleaner to get that stuff cleaned off from the coil and wicking material. BUT, and yes, this is a big BUT... a dry burn does that, and does it extremely well.

So, this is why the Highping dry burn method is superior to everything else.
It addresses both reasons an atomizer should be cleaned.

And here is the link: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/69834-my-atty-resurrection-method.html


How do you know your atomizer needs cleaning?

Well, the first reason to clean the atomizer is because it gets hard to draw on, even after you have blown it out in case it was simply flooded.

This points to cleaning method (1) due to clogging from dried juice.

The second reason is that the vapor production has dropped, or it starts to taste burnt even when you know you have good flow of juice to the atomizer.

This points to cleaning method (2) due to baked on gunk.
 
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... The atomizer has a wick made of some kind of fiber that DOES NOT BURN and DOES NOT MELT so forget all about that. This is important to understand, because that burnt taste is NOT the wicking strands burning or melting. ...

So if the atty wick material does not burn or melt, how come my atomizers don't get that burned, melted taste when I remove the wicks verses when I have left them in.

No disrespect. But I don't think you can make a blanket statement that something doesn't burn or melt when there are a ton of atomizers out there made from a variety of materials under less than ideal quality control standards.
 

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So if the atty wick material does not burn or melt, how come my atomizers don't get that burned, melted taste when I remove the wicks verses when I have left them in.
When you remove the wick you remove the built on gunk that was causing that burnt taste.
You could have just done a dry burn to get it off though.

Keep in mind, also, that the coil is actually wrapped around a piece of wicking material as well.
I probably should have included that in my orginal post.

No disrespect. But I don't think you can make a blanket statement that something doesn't burn or melt when there are a ton of atomizers out there made from a variety of materials under less than ideal quality control standards.
I feel comfortable making the statement or I wouldn't have posted this, but you may be right.
 
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I agree. Simply blowing out atties doesn't work in all cases. It might work for some but there's too many different juices/juice properties and vaping habits at play to say that it will be sufficient for all in my opinion.

I've been using cartomizers for the last couple of weeks but up until then I used carts and atties and only managed to kill one atty since March 12. All of them (total of 4) have been cleaned via warm water, soaking, rubbing alcohol, dry burns, you name it. Cleaning them for me yielded like new performance. As always your mileage may vary.
 

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I would agree with everything you said.
You are 100% correct!!!

Funny thing yesterday. I actually boiled an atty in water and alcohol to see what would happen. I thought I'd let it slow boil for about 5 minutes and guess what?

Dumb sh.. forgot about it and came back 2 hours later to see a dry pan and an extra hot atty.

Rinsed it in cold water, did the highping thing and it worked GREAT!!!

Tough little buggers these atty's :)
 

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I agree. Simply blowing out atties doesn't work in all cases. It might work for some but there's too many different juices/juice properties and vaping habits at play to say that it will be sufficient for all in my opinion.

I've been using cartomizers for the last couple of weeks but up until then I used carts and atties and only managed to kill one atty since March 12. All of them (total of 4) have been cleaned via warm water, soaking, rubbing alcohol, dry burns, you name it. Cleaning them for me yielded like new performance. As always your mileage may vary.

Be interesting to hear if you did not give one of the atties the same treatment and how that one turned out. we have no way of knowing if the un-attended attie would achieve the same results.
I personally believe the more you play with em the more chance you have of losing em.
 

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Be interesting to hear if you did not give one of the atties the same treatment and how that one turned out. we have no way of knowing if the un-attended attie would achieve the same results.
I personally believe the more you play with em the more chance you have of losing em.

The one I killed had had the same treatment in rotation as the other three. It simply died. Atties die. I haven't been through enough of them to claim any kind of quasi scientific results. The one dead atty may have died as the result of my cleaning methods. Then again it may have just died a natural atty death. I can't say. It is simply my experience.
 

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When you remove the wick you remove the built on gunk that was causing that burnt taste.
You could have just done a dry burn to get it off though.

Keep in mind, also, that the coil is actually wrapped around a piece of wicking material as well.
I probably should have included that in my orginal post.

I feel comfortable making the statement or I wouldn't have posted this, but you may be right.

Perhaps you can enlighten me as to what these wick fibers are made of?
 

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I have been thinking of ordering an ultrasonic jewlery cleaner. I think they're only about 30 some dollars. Someone here at ECF has already ordered one, iirc (if I remember correctly).

How would they be used? It's stil a little early, and I have not ordered one yet, but I wonder if you have to use water or distilled water? alcohol? ...things like that.

I really should consider the atomizer to be one of the ecig's jewels.

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I've yet to do anything to an atty that a simple hot water rinse/soak wouldn't fix. And I'll use one after drying for as little as a few hours, wrapped in paper towel.

Curious, for the gunky build-up issues, how would Simple Green do? I've used that stuff extensively for cleaning off other various smoking apparati.
 

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And I've yet to try any method of atty cleaning that yielded anything more than a very marginal improvement. Yet they rarely actually die. So when I just can't take it anymore, I pop on a new one, and once again, I'm in vaping heaven. And the old one goes into 'the pile', perhaps never to be used again. Or maybe saved for 'vaping armeggdon'.
 

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Ever try a water pick? I've been using one for a while and it works well. Lots of times I see little chunks of black stuff float out. To me it seems to bring them back to life--almost back to that sweet spot where it was vaping like a beast....anyway I like the water pick...anyone try this?
 

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Wow, this topic never goes away. I've tried all the methods with very limited success. Boiling them or washing them with alcohol or anything else does help for a short while, but always killed the atty soon after (for me). What has really worked for me is the link you posted to the atty resurection method (dry burn). I found it works great when I use a 6v mod to do the dry burn. I couldn't get it to work with lower voltage.
 

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