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A lie travels 1/2 way around the world before the truth can get its pants on. This is a FACT of LIFE!

Kanger is no different than any other Manufacturer. CYA is job one.
joyetech also makes the same Claim. One problem, no one has cloned the eVic.

Kanger also has a hard and Fast policy of NO COOP SALES - which they continually violate.
It is business and business tactics. Get over it. if you feel they are FAKES then simple - DO NOT BUY.
For my :2c: the clones are just as good for 1/2 the price anyway and yes I have plenty of Kangers to compare against.:)
Want to guess where most of mine came DIRECT from?
 

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One of FT's higher rated clone mech mods is the V3 MOD. It's solid brass and well built. I have one and use it with a Igo-L. Excellent combination.

And see I hate my V3. The bottom button continually unscrewing to the point the locking ring doesn't work is a pita. Now if you vape with your right hand instead of your left like I do you might not see this problem. Lefty vapers unscrew the button a bit with every press. :(
 

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Sorry, you're just wrong. I have two that came in full retail packaging, one boxed with beauty ring, one in a blister pack. They are genuine.

As far as I can tell now, every main manufacturer has now claimed that Fasttech is selling counterfeit copies of their products. Innokin, Kanger, JoyeTech, Liqua, etc...
FastTech DOES sell counterfeit items, there is no doubt about it. For instance, I've bought quite a few knives from them that were labeled something like "6" folding camping knife" and when I get it, it has "Gerber" or "Buck" branded all over it and I know full well it's a fake. Fasttech even scrubs those brand markings from the photos and they never claimed branding on them. You only find that out when you unbox it yourself. They don't deny it either. HERE is the difference: FastTech has never once claimed a fake to be genuine that I have ever heard about. If something says "Kanger Protank", it is indeed, a Kanger brand Protank that has most likely been acquired outside of the channels that Kanger approves of where they can price control. Kanger has an incentive to stop the consumer from buying at FastTech because it weakens their price control scheme. I'm not picking on just Kanger, Inokkin is doing the same thing and so is JoyeTech not to mention others.
It's safe to say that if Fasttech says it is a brand name, then it is.
There is also something you should understand about the culture among Chinese manufacturers...
Manufacturers that qualify as "best of the crop" and can be trusted are the ones most often contracted by American companies to mass produce their products for them. Not just Americans, I'm just using this as an example. For instance (and this has actually happened to Cisco several times), Cisco Systems contracts Chinese manufacturers to to produce products that Cisco designed in California. They hand the design and source for components to the best bidder that they feel they can trust and tell them to manufacture a certain number of units, and here are the serial numbers they need to have from XXXX to YYYY. The manufacturer will then fulfill their obligation and do so. THEN, before they tear down the lines to start manufacturing something else, they will run off an extra 1000 or 10000 items and re-use some of the serial numbers (or just make up some fake ones, whatever) to sell themselves on the open market (which is also what they promise to never do by the way). So, the products are EXACTLY the same as the "genuine" product, they are just now what we have coined "grey market" goods.
 

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So Shenzhen Kanger Technology Co, Ltd. (aka Kanger), one of the largest e-cig manufacturers in the world, goes on record stating that Fasttech sells fake Kanger product. Fasttech, a retailer, takes no action to correct Kanger's statement, and that statement is on Kanger's website to this day (two months later). Kanger's products are regularly sold for less than suggested retail prices.

Fasttech just allows Kanger to slander their reputation? Accuse them of wrongdoing? And continues to buy large volumes of Kanger products to resell for very small margins?

Something doesn't add up

If you have concerns about the branded items FT sell, I suggest the best course of action is that you buy from a retailer you trust. The general consensus from people that have bought both branded Kanger and Innokin (the two companies that have cried fake) is that they have received the genuine product.
 

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So Shenzhen Kanger Technology Co, Ltd. (aka Kanger), one of the largest e-cig manufacturers in the world, goes on record stating that Fasttech sells fake Kanger product. Fasttech, a retailer, takes no action to correct Kanger's statement, and that statement is on Kanger's website to this day (two months later). Kanger's products are regularly sold for less than suggested retail prices.

Fasttech just allows Kanger to slander their reputation? Accuse them of wrongdoing? And continues to buy large volumes of Kanger products to resell for very small margins?

Something doesn't add up

If you read it on the internet then it must be true. Thanks for straightening all of us out who have been ordering and actually handling these items for several months now. By the way, you know what happens when you assume?


Edit: Ok, that was snarky, but seriously, be careful about defending things that you have no first hand knowledge of. You can end up with egg on your face. Bottom line is many E-cigg companies require their manufacturers to sell their products for a set price. FT sells it bellow this MSRP there for the companies try discredit them. FT has proven trustworthy time after time in that if they say it is a specific brand then if it is. If they something like "Vivi Nova style" then it probably will not be a known name brand. You can always check with us here as chances are some one has tried what ever you are looking at. That is one of the main purposes of this thread. Welcome.
 
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Anyone know why my order has now processed again through SF USPS after the depart notice? Is that normal lol --


October 27, 2013 , 8:43 pm
Processed through USPS Sort Facility
SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94188

October 24, 2013
Depart USPS Sort Facility
SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94128

October 24, 2013 , 9:52 am
Processed through USPS Sort Facility
SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94128

October 23, 2013 , 9:14 am
Processed Through Sort Facility
HONG KONG AIR MAIL CENTRE, HONG KONG

October 20, 2013 , 10:59 am
Acceptance
HONG KONG
 

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Anyone know why my order has now processed again through SF USPS after the depart notice? Is that normal lol --


October 27, 2013 , 8:43 pm
Processed through USPS Sort Facility
SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94188

October 24, 2013
Depart USPS Sort Facility
SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94128

October 24, 2013 , 9:52 am
Processed through USPS Sort Facility
SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94128

October 23, 2013 , 9:14 am
Processed Through Sort Facility
HONG KONG AIR MAIL CENTRE, HONG KONG

October 20, 2013 , 10:59 am
Acceptance
HONG KONG


Have not had it reported in a while with all the other shipping woes and lack of tracking but some times we use to see what we called the San Fran Black Hole. It will cycle through several times with multiple tracking ins and outs. I had one spin around for 11 days one time. Other times it is only a day or two. Best of luck.
 

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Personally I don't believe that. FT may not get stuff directly from Kanger, but they can easily get it from one of Kanger's many resellers.

FastTech has the REAL KANGER PRODUCTS except where specified .... Kanger just made that announcement to cover their behinds because those are "off the books" kanger products...
Ya don't have to pay taxes.... on stuff ya claim, ya didn't sell.... FastTech isn't the only company that Kanger claims aren't their products....But trust & believe, those are Kanger products, in Kanger packaging... Its the same with Innokin... they claim that FastTech is selling products that are not made by them...but there is no doubt that those are Innokin products...Neither Innokin or Kanger knows who the middle man is, that is selling their products to FT....And FT ain't telling who their buying them from.... Personally... I don't care how their doing it... I'm just glad they are the genuine product, at such a great price....for me
 

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Well I found out yesterday that one of my clear t3s's accepts evod heads. The other 2 (Blk/Clr) won't accept them. It appears that they have a ring about 1/4" of the way down on the clearo itself preventing the use of the wider based evod heads. Why one clear t3s (Ordered one month apart) is different than the other is beyond me, not surprised though.

Anyways, November order placed. Trying some Hangsen Mint and ordering some more of the Marlboro mix mint. On top of that a Mt3s an a couple spare heads for emergency backup when not at home.

Budget intact. :)
 
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Well I found out yesterday that one of my clear t3s's accepts evod heads. The other 2 (Blk/Clr) won't accept them. It appears that they have a ring about 1/4" of the way down on the clearo itself preventing the use of the wider based evod heads. Why one clear t3s (Ordered one month apart) is different than the other is beyond me, not surprised though.

Had the same thing happen with some 650 twist. Liked one, ordered more. Completely different battery. but like you said, not surprising.
 

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I don't know if the Kangers are real or not but I ordered a Pro Tank a couple of months ago. Came in full retail package with beauty ring, Kanger laser markings and all. Leaked like crazy. Filled it up and overnight it dumped a full load of juice. Entered ticket, shipped to Miami and six weeks later had a new one. Now a different problem. When you screw the atomizer (coil) into the base the center pin shorts to the body. It appears that the threads in the base are cut at a slight angle and when screwed all the way in the center post makes contact with the base body and shorts it out. If you unscrew the coil about 1/8 turn then it is usuable. Is it real or fake I don't know but if it is genuine Kanger then I need to buy a knockoff. I saw bases for sale somewhere for a couple of dollars. Going to have to find them.
 

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I don't know if the Kangers are real or not but I ordered a Pro Tank a couple of months ago. Came in full retail package with beauty ring, Kanger laser markings and all. Leaked like crazy. Filled it up and overnight it dumped a full load of juice. Entered ticket, shipped to Miami and six weeks later had a new one. Now a different problem. When you screw the atomizer (coil) into the base the center pin shorts to the body. It appears that the threads in the base are cut at a slight angle and when screwed all the way in the center post makes contact with the base body and shorts it out. If you unscrew the coil about 1/8 turn then it is usuable. Is it real or fake I don't know but if it is genuine Kanger then I need to buy a knockoff. I saw bases for sale somewhere for a couple of dollars. Going to have to find them.

If you get the newer type of base please be aware that Evods heads don't work with them.
 

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Seems like we get to have this "is it real Kanger, etc " discussion periodically. Someone always knows better than the folks that are buying and using the products.

My take is if they are counterfeit they are pretty damn clever and meticulous and show an astounding eye for detail and workmanship right down to duplicating the laser etching on the friggin coil and the hologram sealing the box.

I can appreciate that kind of quality, buying at a discount is just a bonus. Give me MORE!!
 

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I don't know if the Kangers are real or not but I ordered a Pro Tank a couple of months ago. Came in full retail package with beauty ring, Kanger laser markings and all. Leaked like crazy. Filled it up and overnight it dumped a full load of juice. Entered ticket, shipped to Miami and six weeks later had a new one. Now a different problem. When you screw the atomizer (coil) into the base the center pin shorts to the body. It appears that the threads in the base are cut at a slight angle and when screwed all the way in the center post makes contact with the base body and shorts it out. If you unscrew the coil about 1/8 turn then it is usuable. Is it real or fake I don't know but if it is genuine Kanger then I need to buy a knockoff. I saw bases for sale somewhere for a couple of dollars. Going to have to find them.

It sounds like some that didn't meet QA were sold off anyway. This would actually support the subthread above about FT selling fake or genuine name-brand parts. The parts could be genuine, but didn't make the QA cut and sold to FT rather than discarded.
 

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It sounds like some that didn't meet QA were sold off anyway. This would actually support the subthread above about FT selling fake or genuine name-brand parts. The parts could be genuine, but didn't make the QA cut and sold to FT rather than discarded.

People complain about genuine Evods and Protanks purchased in the US all the time and no one puts a tinfoil hat on. All my FT Kanger Protanks and coils have been fine along with most of the other posters here and on the FT forums. If they bought failed goods to sell at a premium it would be an uproar both here and on FT.

The chap got a dud, it happens, the replacement worked.
 

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People complain about genuine Evods and Protanks purchased in the US all the time and no one puts a tinfoil hat on. All my FT Kanger Protanks and coils have been fine along with most of the other posters here and on the FT forums. If they bought failed goods to sell at a premium it would be an uproar both here and on FT.

The chap got a dud, it happens, the replacement worked.

If you are referring to my thread then the replacement does not work, however I have purchased 15 knockoff evods from FT and like them better than the OE Kanger.
 
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