The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?

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Rossum

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But 60 is TERRIFYINGLY old and in a scant 4-ish years I will be doing things I could have sworn I would NEVER do with a 60 year old.
I can't remember what actress it was, but she was interviewed when she was about 60 and said something to the effect of, "When I was 16 I decided I preferred men who were about 35 years old, and I still do." :lol:
 

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…It seems to me that Zeller is the best friend we had in that room, and with friends like him....

Spent most my prof life goin thru, over and round such mealymouthed dissembling bureaucrats. These days I'm more transitioning back to my original mission on ECF…rebuilding and teaching others to do so. Skills and practices we'll all need soon if these sociopathic mental deficients get their way.

Good luck. :)
 

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These days I'm more transitioning back to my original mission on ECF…rebuilding and teaching others to do so. Skills and practices we'll all need soon if these sociopathic mental deficients get their way.
I know; it blows my mind that so many people still cling to pre-built coil heads. A few have stocked a lifetime supply of them, but unless a person is truly unable to build an atty themselves, I don't see how this makes sense.
 

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I know; it blows my mind that so many people still cling to pre-built coil heads. A few have stocked a lifetime supply of them, but unless a person is truly unable to build an atty themselves, I don't see how this makes sense.
I do both... I stocked up on them because I could afford it and it's just easier, especially because it is not just me, but my wife as well. And I usually have 3 setups going while she has 2. I have so many pre-built that I will probably only be building for my squonkers and save the countless RTAs/RDAs I have for emergency only i.e.: my house burns down and I lose half my stash (I have the other 50% of my stash, including nic, split between my daughter's and my brother-in-law's places in case of fire, hurricane, etc).
 

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I know; it blows my mind that so many people still cling to pre-built coil heads. A few have stocked a lifetime supply of them, but unless a person is truly unable to build an atty themselves, I don't see how this makes sense.

To me when I quit, once I realized what had happened and why, advanced vaping has always been about exerting an informed control over what I put in my body. That's never been a hobby or a commercial preference or objective but a dedication to my own life and health.

I do so appreciate all the contributions so many have made here to make that possible.

So I have no intention of making a pod of things.

Good luck. :)
 

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I know; it blows my mind that so many people still cling to pre-built coil heads. A few have stocked a lifetime supply of them, but unless a person is truly unable to build an atty themselves, I don't see how this makes sense.
The longer I stay on this forum and other vape forums the less anything vapers do makes sense. :)
 

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I do both... I stocked up on them because I could afford it and it's just easier, especially because it is not just me, but my wife as well. And I usually have 3 setups going while she has 2. I have so many pre-built that I will probably only be building for my squonkers and save the countless RTAs/RDAs I have for emergency only i.e.: my house burns down and I lose half my stash (I have the other 50% of my stash, including nic, split between my daughter's and my brother-in-law's places in case of fire, hurricane, etc).
I should also add that the pre-built coils that I use for 2 of my tanks brands/models only cost like $5-$7/5-pack on sale and my wife and I vape unflavored, so even with heavy vaping a coil last us like 5 weeks for one tank style and for the other I am now on day #91 and it is just as good as day #1.
 

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I should also add that the pre-built coils that I use for 2 of my tanks brands/models only cost like $5-$7/5-pack on sale and my wife and I vape unflavored, so even with heavy vaping a coil last us like 5 weeks for one tank style and for the other I am now on day #91 and it is just as good as day #1.

Do tell . . . o_O Of course - Inquiring minds NEED to know . . . :rolleyes:


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I know; it blows my mind that so many people still cling to pre-built coil heads. A few have stocked a lifetime supply of them, but unless a person is truly unable to build an atty themselves, I don't see how this makes sense.

I stocked some, for the first time ever. In the event that I can't build a coil for a while for some reason. It would be very hard to build if you could only use one hand!
 

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I should also add that the pre-built coils that I use for 2 of my tanks brands/models only cost like $5-$7/5-pack on sale and my wife and I vape unflavored, so even with heavy vaping a coil last us like 5 weeks for one tank style and for the other I am now on day #91 and it is just as good as day #1.

Yes, but compare the hundreds of dollars you spent on pre-built coils to my one $10 roll of Temco 26 ga kanthal and a $4 bag of Labo cotton. And I would bet that mine lasts a lot longer. On top of that, I'll always be able to replenish those supplies should they run out 10 years from now, whereas you won't.
 

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I know; it blows my mind that so many people still cling to pre-built coil heads. A few have stocked a lifetime supply of them, but unless a person is truly unable to build an atty themselves, I don't see how this makes sense.
Building and installing coils may be inexpensive and gratifying but what is Plan B should circumstances change? If one needs to resort to prebuilt heads in the future, will they be available?

Vision and motor skills can decline slowly or abruptly. Although it would be easy to ask someone else to follow a recipe to mix liquid, expecting them to master coil building, installation and troubleshooting seems presumptuous to me.

For the price of a single high end setup one can have a lifetime supply of prebuilt heads. Having wire, prebuilt coils and prebuilt heads on hand increases the chance to maintain self reliance as a vaper.

Different strokes for different folks.
 

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Come on @Rossum, you are one of the most anti regulation people I know (and admire) when it comes to this stuff.

I have TONS of RTAs. I am not going to run out of NEW RTAs to try and build for several years, probably.

I have stocked coil heads. It's not because I can't build (although I suck at it, getting better all the time though) I am not even hoarding them for when I am SUPER old. I will find someone to build my coils at 90, I'm fairly sure the kid would do it, for one.

I just LIKE the vape of some drop in coils, I obtained the majority of mine on sale, I have enough to last me forever (I also have good coil life.) I don't see why deeming should DEPRIVE me of all the drop in tanks I love . I want to be vaping my Kabukis until the day I die so I made plans for that.

There is no reason to tell people to NOT stockpile coils, they don't go bad. There is no reason to tell people they should be limited to RTAs only, EVEN or even if ESPECIALLY it is cheaper.

I get it, you are happy with rebuildables. Me too. I am also very HAPPY with some of my drop in tanks, and I would MISS them. Why should I allow the government to do that?

One of the ONLY nice things about deeming is that is going to reduce my "day to day" costs for a LONG time. As far as I know, coils don't go bad, explode, etc.

I'm fine with it and you should be too. You are violating your own "principles of choice."

I get it's a pet peeve, but remember it is YOUR pet peeve ,not everyone's.

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Come on @Rossum, you are one of the most anti regulation people I know (and admire) when it comes to this stuff.
Absolutely, and I'm certainly not suggesting anything be "regulated".

People should be free do as they please -- provided it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg -- but that doesn't mean what they choose to do strike me as sensible. :)
 

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Yes, but compare the hundreds of dollars you spent on pre-built coils to my one $10 roll of Temco 26 ga kanthal and a $4 bag of Labo cotton. And I would bet that mine lasts a lot longer. On top of that, I'll always be able to replenish those supplies should they run out 10 years from now, whereas you won't.
But I have enough coils already to last a lifetime and more... Plus I have enough wire to build 2 decent size chicken coops. Lol
 
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I remember buying cartons of Marlboro on the army base when I was in for $8. That was around 1990. I’m still buying them for my wife who won’t switch to vaping. They are about $50 a carton here.
The way it's taxed in Australia a pack a day smoker spends about $922/ month. The fed government will increase the tax on cigarrettes by 12.5%/year every year from 2020. Tell me they aren't addicted to smoking.
When I was a kid I used to buy a pack of smokes for my mum for $1

EDIT: I just called my local IGA and their average price is about $40 for a pack of 25 cigs. So that's closer to $1,200/month for a pack a day smoker
 
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The way it's taxed in Australia a pack a day smoker spends about $922/ month. The fed government will increase the tax on cigarrettes by 12.5%/year every year from 2020. Tell me they aren't addicted to smoking.
When I was a kid I used to buy a pack of smokes for my mum for $1

It does seem that they are determined to tax the legal market out of existence.
 
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