The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

[DarthEmma]

Nic: what do you (or anyone) make of a 28g, 12 wrap coil on a 5/64ths rod that is reading at 2.1 ohms on my Magma/istick setup? According to the calculators I've used, it should be more in the range of 1.5. I can't think what accounts for the difference. This is my first coil ever built, and it's been a long time coming, so I'm pleased, regardless, but it takes a long time to heat up even at 15w and although the flavor is there, it is giving a super heavy throat hit while also not producing much vapor. The vapor is cool, which is fine with me, but I don't understand where the throat hit comes from, considering it's neither very hot, nor giving much in the way of clouds. Any ideas?

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I am not quite caught up with this thread, but noticed a few pages back people were making flavor purchases and wanted to share a great blog by RocketPuppy that has tons of useful links to suppliers and other information like a pretty comprehensive list of flavor abbreviations.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ew-diy-simple-guide-links-what-where-buy.html

I just got my Magma last night. I use it with an iStick. I did some reading and found that Rip Trippers recommended a single micro coil in the Magma. So, I made one for it and it works well. 28 Gauge Kanthal 10 wraps around a 2mm mandrel. It came to 1.3 ohms. Seems to work pretty well.

Make sure you keep tension on the wire as you wrap so your coils are nice and even. I use a screwdrive to do my wraps so the coils can be pressed against the handle to help keep the spacing uniform.

How much nic are you using? I understand that too much nic can give a harsh throat hit. (I vape 0 nic, so I don't have that issue.)

I don't mean to sound like an expert here. I'm not. But, you asked what folks were using in their Magma, so I thought I'd share what I'm using.

 

[AndriaD]

DX Cinnamon Danish-TFA - Bull City Vapor
DX Cinnamon Danish Flavor Concentrate by TFA (0.27oz)

From shopping list posted, I think maybe trying to avoid stuff, I could be wrong though. Again, another dx version, great suggestion Dinger!

Outstanding!! I've got the CAP Cinnamon Danish v2... and it's *ok* but nothing to write home about -- at least it doesn't have that hard artificial 'whang' like their vanilla custard v2. But I definitely need to get some of the TFA DX of that flavor.

Andria

 

[Monotremata]

Ok Ive just assembled what I feel should be my first order. Theres a ton of tfa flavors on here, so if you guys dont mind could you all look at my list of flavors and tell me if these are good, as well as if the flavors i put down that arent tfa, if they have a equivalent in tfa that is better?? (That was a long run on)

Tfa granny smith apple
Tfa honeydew
Tfa blue raspberry
Tfa juicy peach
Fa watermelon
Tfa dx original caramel
Fa butterscotch
Tfa sweetener
Fa fresh cream
Fa pineapple
Tfa mango
Fw strawberry

Careful with the blue raspberry.. Just one percent too much and its AWFUL. I've gotta try a bubblegum mix still but its one of those flavors that's really really hard to get right..

 

[CoilinTrouble]

Thnx for the sugvestions everybody! Gotta add some more binding flavors to my order like french vanilla then...also about the blue raspberry is it really that finicky? I usually like bold pronounced flavors so something strong might be good but if the tfa blue raspberry is really that finicky does anyone have a good recipe to duplicate blue raspberry moee efficiently??

 

[Monotremata]

Blue raspberry isn't "bold" so much that it gets chemically bad tasting real quick. TFA says they may drop it cause a lot of people don't like it. I'm gonna try a test batch with sweeteners tonight.. Don't go over 12% with it, trust me!

 

[DarthEmma]

I just placed another big order with TPA today. I think I have most of the flavors to make what I consider to be the yummiest recipes I have saved from this thread. I now have over 100 flavors by TPA plus a few from Capellas, LorAnns, and Flavor West. Time to get mixing!

I have already made about a dozen recipes. My favorite so far is Bill's Cinnamon Danish.

I also got a good dripper (a Magma) to test my 100 drop test samples so I can start tinkering with my own concoctions.

Here is a big "Thank you!" to everyone in this thread who have been so generous by sharing their knowledge (including recipes) with all of us!

 

[lirruping]

I just got my Magma last night. I use it with an iStick. I did some reading and found that Rip Trippers recommended a single micro coil in the Magma. So, I made one for it and it works well. 28 Gauge Kanthal 10 wraps around a 2mm mandrel. It came to 1.3 ohms. Seems to work pretty well.

Make sure you keep tension on the wire as you wrap so your coils are nice and even. I use a screwdrive to do my wraps so the coils can be pressed against the handle to help keep the spacing uniform.

How much nic are you using? I understand that too much nic can give a harsh throat hit. (I vape 0 nic, so I don't have that issue.)

I don't mean to sound like an expert here. I'm not. But, you asked what folks were using in their Magma, so I thought I'd share what I'm using.

Thanks very much for the input. The lowest nic I have currently is 12mg, which was why I was going for a 1.5 or 1.8--my understanding was that a higher ohm build would be less intense at that level. For rods, I have the 5/64ths bit and the screwdriver that came along with the Magma--little tiny baby screwdriver. Is this the one you're using in the build you mention? I would guess it at 2mm or maybe 2.3. Does anyone know the diameter of those cute little screwdrivers?

 

[Nic-holio]

Just saw this in a thread. Might help you out.

Hey thats a neat chart MOV!

 

[lirruping]

I just got my Magma last night. I use it with an iStick. I did some reading and found that Rip Trippers recommended a single micro coil in the Magma. So, I made one for it and it works well. 28 Gauge Kanthal 10 wraps around a 2mm mandrel. It came to 1.3 ohms. Seems to work pretty well.

Make sure you keep tension on the wire as you wrap so your coils are nice and even. I use a screwdrive to do my wraps so the coils can be pressed against the handle to help keep the spacing uniform.

How much nic are you using? I understand that too much nic can give a harsh throat hit. (I vape 0 nic, so I don't have that issue.)

I don't mean to sound like an expert here. I'm not. But, you asked what folks were using in their Magma, so I thought I'd share what I'm using.

Thanks very much for the input. The lowest nic I have currently is 12mg, which was why I was going for a 1.5 or 1.8--my understanding was that a higher ohm build would be less intense at that level. For rods, I have the 5/64ths bit and the screwdriver that came along with the Magma--little tiny baby screwdriver. Is this the one you're using in the build you mention? I would guess it at 2mm or maybe 2.3. Does anyone know the diameter of those cute little screwdrivers?

 

[Nic-holio]

I just placed another big order with TPA today. I think I have most of the flavors to make what I consider to be the yummiest recipes I have saved from this thread. I now have over 100 flavors by TPA plus a few from Capellas, LorAnns, and Flavor West. Time to get mixing!

I have already made about a dozen recipes. My favorite so far is Bill's Cinnamon Danish.

I also got a good dripper (a Magma) to test my 100 drop test samples so I can start tinkering with my own concoctions.

Here is a big "Thank you!" to everyone in this thread who have been so generous by sharing their knowledge (including recipes) with all of us!

Rock on DarthEmma! Glad you got your Magma! It really has been a great RDA for flavor testing for me. And general vaping around the house too...

100 TFA/TPA flavors. That's awesome! I've got a ways to go with my flavorings selection yet - but it's getting there! I am looking forward to some "mad science" time this weekend! My wife keeps calling me (jokingly) the mad scientist when I get the mixing stuff going...

 

[K-Omo]

Thanks very much for the input. The lowest nic I have currently is 12mg, which was why I was going for a 1.5 or 1.8--my understanding was that a higher ohm build would be less intense at that level. For rods, I have the 5/64ths bit and the screwdriver that came along with the Magma--little tiny baby screwdriver. Is this the one you're using in the build you mention? I would guess it at 2mm or maybe 2.3. Does anyone know the diameter of those cute little screwdrivers?

The cute little blue screwdriver is ~1.6mm and the little silver screwdriver with a key chain ring is ~1.3mm
5/64" bit is 1.98 mm
3/32" bit is 2.38 mm
7/64" bit is 2.78mm
1/8" bit is 3.18 mm

 

[AndriaD]

DX Cinnamon Danish-TFA - Bull City Vapor
DX Cinnamon Danish Flavor Concentrate by TFA (0.27oz)

From shopping list posted, I think maybe trying to avoid stuff, I could be wrong though. Again, another dx version, great suggestion Dinger!


Perfumer's Apprentice, answer to bulk account question asked on other thread...set up regular account with tfa, then set up bulk....rec "smalls" initially, when you know what you like, then go bulk for the frequently used favorites....4 oz will last awhile

Just ordered some of that DX cinnamon danish, along with the vanilla swirl I couldn't get the other day when they were down, and some of that malted milk you mentioned, and also some of the TFA Apple Pie. I got the FA Apple Pie first, but it's a lot more "pie crust" than "apple". I was pleased to see no diketone warnings on any of those -- yay!

Last I checked, ECX was still out of Lorann's Cream Cheese Icing, or I would have gotten that when I ordered the shisha strawberry the other day -- which I'm ANXIOUSLY awaiting! Hopefully I can get that and the TPA DX Bavarian Cream tomorrow, before the storm gets bad here -- it just started snowing. It remains to be seen if that will become a huge hairy mess, or just blow on outta here -- here in ATL, it really could go either way. You can bet I've got my fingers crossed for "blow on outta here!" I liked snow up in Michigan, but up there, they have the tools and manpower to deal with it; they definitely don't, down here. 3" of snow causes more trouble here than 3' of snow would cause for you guys.

Andria

PS: good thing I ordered when I did -- I think I got the last 10ml of vanilla swirl they had -- if I clicked on 30ml or 4oz, it gave me the "enter your email address" msg, otu of stock, and when I tried to make the quantity "2" on the 10ml, it wouldn't let me! *whew!*

 

[K-Omo]

I buy some of my flavorings from Cream and Custard Flavorings for eLiquids Heartlandvapes Wholesale. And they have LA Cream Cheese Icing 4oz for $7.12
Cream and Custard Flavorings for eLiquids Heartlandvapes Wholesale

 

[b.m.]

I buy some of my flavorings from Cream and Custard Flavorings for eLiquids Heartlandvapes Wholesale. And they have LA Cream Cheese Icing 4oz for $7.12
Cream and Custard Flavorings for eLiquids Heartlandvapes Wholesale

Wow,that kinda sucks haha.I have bought 3 liters of nic from them and never realized they sold flavors,and to top it off,that 4oz. of cream cheese icing for $7.12 is a great deal,i paid $7.50 after the shipping for a 1oz. bottle.

 

[DingerCPA]

Just saw this in a thread. Might help you out.

Thanks much for posting this Hope you don't mind that I added to my blogs so I don't lose it (like I lose so many other posts that I really want....)

 

[Islandguy]

Why does the dulce de leche taste like chocolate. Ive tried it in 3 different recipes now and it always gives a chocolate taste to the mix. I read its supposed to be a sweet milk flavor so it kinda surprised me how dark the liquid is and the taste.

 

[DingerCPA]

Islandguy, I think of DLD more as a "caramelized" milk, so it's going to be richer. I could see where it could lend a "chocolatey" taste, but I personally haven't noticed that when I've used it. When I want sweet milk, I usually go with sweet cream because it's lighter in flavor (and color). YMMV

 

[Monotremata]

Why does the dulce de leche taste like chocolate. Ive tried it in 3 different recipes now and it always gives a chocolate taste to the mix. I read its supposed to be a sweet milk flavor so it kinda surprised me how dark the liquid is and the taste.

It shouldn't at all. The 'real deal' like Dinger said is caramel and milk. Go to the store and get yourself some dulce flavored ice cream, it'll give you an idea. Where I live, the only 'American' restaurants are the fast food chains, so I get to eat awesome Mexican food all day long i love it he he!

 

[b.m.]

Rice Krispy Treats

8% Rice Crunchies
3% Bavarian Cream
3% Sweet Cream
3% Toasted Marshmallow
3% Marshmallow
1% Butter

YUMMY!!!

Got my rice crunchies flavor today,so i will be trying this out tommorow,definitely looking forward to trying it.

 

[Shalisk]

Marasheno Cherry, I tried it at 20% to start, almost killed myself, be careful with that one