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HA! -- exactly what i also just did. Can't wait to try it!!

You will *LOVE* it -- the eRoll was great, it got me to quit smoking... but the first hit off the iTaste with my T3S and all I could say was "THAT's what I'm talkin about!" :D

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IIRC, you normally run pretty hot, Andria, and the PT2 problem may be related to that. Try vaping at a lower setting and see if it's any better.

Not all cartos are equal. (Heck, not all clearos are either.) A slight variation in the length of the threads can keep it from making a connection. So it may work fine on your incoming vape mail :2c:

And Brook? Just get both :laugh:

Yeah I set it pretty high, gotta get as much throat hit as possible. :vapor: But in the mornings, I turn it all the way down to 3.3v, so I don't cough up a lung.

The coils for the Mini are weird; it was supposed to be one that's 2.5 ohms (where the heck do you guys get that ohm symbol? I'm tired of typing it!), and one that's 1.8; what I got instead seems to be one that's 2.5, and one that's 3.0 -- and they're both registering a bit high, 2.7 and 3.2. Or do they always register high when there's no juice? I was just testing them to see which was which, didn't have any juice in it yet.

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:lol: Brook = broke. In the past 45 days, I've spent the next 120 days of my e stuff budget. I allow $40 a week for juice and toys as that's around what I would've spent on analogs. Problem is I've spent over 4 months worth in just over a month and really should've waited

Trying to be frugal now. Again.

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Heck, THAT'S no fun! :unsure: If you leave the order unchanged, you'll cut down on your vape mail anxiety...:facepalm:

Yeah I set it pretty high, gotta get as much throat hit as possible. :vapor: But in the mornings, I turn it all the way down to 3.3v, so I don't cough up a lung.

The coils for the Mini are weird; it was supposed to be one that's 2.5 ohms (where the heck do you guys get that ohm symbol? I'm tired of typing it!), and one that's 1.8; what I got instead seems to be one that's 2.5, and one that's 3.0 -- and they're both registering a bit high, 2.7 and 3.2. Or do they always register high when there's no juice? I was just testing them to see which was which, didn't have any juice in it yet.

Andria

Too high a power setting, whether you get there via watts or volts, will burn the juice and any cotton or other organic wick. At that point, you need to decant the juice and replace the cotton.

Yes, higher power will give more TH, but so will higher nic and/or higher PG. The latter do it without burning the juice or wick.

Most of the bottom coil toppers don't do well over around 7 or 8 watts, they don't have enough air flow and don't normally wick fast enough. Kanger usually puts a little brochure in their boxes (of course, the T3S doesn't usually come in a box and doesn't have one, but your PT2 probably did) with recommendations for max power. That's a good starting point. I have some delicate flavors that don't like more than about 5 watts in my PT2 mini, but taste great at that setting. Others I can go higher without problems.

Factory coils are notorious for not being exactly the same Ω as marked, and anything that interferes with a good connection will throw them off even more, so that's not too surprising. Wet or dry shouldn't make them change, bad connection certainly will.

If on a PC, press and hold the Alt key, type 234 on the numeric keypad and let go of the alt key = Ω . In someone's infinite wisdom, it doesn't work if you use the numbers across the top of the keyboard.
 

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Too high a power setting, whether you get there via watts or volts, will burn the juice and any cotton or other organic wick. At that point, you need to decant the juice and replace the cotton.

Yes, higher power will give more TH, but so will higher nic and/or higher PG. The latter do it without burning the juice or wick.

Most of the bottom coil toppers don't do well over around 7 or 8 watts, they don't have enough air flow and don't normally wick fast enough. Kanger usually puts a little brochure in their boxes (of course, the T3S doesn't usually come in a box and doesn't have one, but your PT2 probably did) with recommendations for max power. That's a good starting point. I have some delicate flavors that don't like more than about 5 watts in my PT2 mini, but taste great at that setting. Others I can go higher without problems.

Hmm.. I might be able to go up to 9mg nic for daytime, without ill effects. I've been ordering the regular PG-blend which is 85% PG; since I'm a regular customer, maybe they could make a special order with 100% PG for me; I guess I could ask if that's possible. I'm not a 'cloud chaser' at all; in fact I found the thicker vapor quite obnoxious when I had to vape that 85% VG for a week, it sat on my lungs like lead, and I couldn't cough it up to save my life, so the thinner vapor of PG quite suits me. I really wish I could have done the DIY thing to make this flavor I love, but it was awful. They either buy it from a "mysterious source" (China most likely) or they mix it themselves with some esoteric blend of flavorings; I can pretty much identify the flavors, but don't know exactly WHAT brand/flavor-name they use, so I can't very easily mix it myself. perhaps when I have more resources, I can delve into it more, do some more experiments with different combos of flavors, and see what happens. I do love to cook, so with enough time and testing I might be able to make something just as good, if not better. But I need to find a way to increase the throat hit so I don't need to turn it so high, or learn real quick how to rebuild the stupid things! I do plan on buying a major amount of T3S coils when we get that refund, yeah probably from FT for something like that, stocking up.

The coil I dry-burned this afternoon, one of these 2.2 Ω (yay I did it!) that I got Monday, seems to have turned out quite well; that P&C yarn really makes a difference; I think it's because it has a bit of a nap, so it's more absorbent. And it really does improve the taste, a lot! Which also makes me realize I need to learn to rebuild, so the whole thing can be cotton -- someone said that with a cotton wick in the coil, you just pull it out and then dry burn, and then replace both wicks...? I know my husband is going to buy some tools when we get the refund, he always does -- last year a major haul of yard tools - electric lawnmower, electric weedeater, electric chainsaw -- so when we go to Harbor Freight, I can get some stuff that I will need, like that lighted magnifying thing with an arm to hold what you're working on? Desperately need that. But anyway, I think getting that P&C yarn made all the difference; I put it all back together with the new wick and fresh juice about 30-40 mins ago, and so far so good, no leaks, no gurgles. *Crossing Fingers!*

Factory coils are notorious for not being exactly the same Ω as marked, and anything that interferes with a good connection will throw them off even more, so that's not too surprising. Wet or dry shouldn't make them change, bad connection certainly will.

That could be it, just standard variations; there also was a note saying that although they list the coils as "thus and such" they have no control over what comes from the factory, so that the coils you receive might be different. And I think I have seen 3 Ω coils for the Mini PT II. *shrug* Since I use glass for my "morning mix" zero-throat hit, the higher Ω for it is actually a good thing, it will further decrease the throat hit for when I can't handle it.

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Wow, that is an awesome deal, 10 of 'em for $2.35. I might even go ahead and order those; who knows, by the time they get here, I might be ready to do that rebuilding thang. :D

I haven't watched the rebuilding video yet, as will be obvious from my next question: what do you attach the wires to? :blush:

Andria

Yes, once you see the vid, all will be revealed...:2cool: It's much easier than I thought, but I would have never figured it out on my own.
 

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Yes, once you see the vid, all will be revealed...:2cool: It's much easier than I thought, but I would have never figured it out on my own.

That's exactly what I discovered about the dry burning, nothing at all to be afraid of. The hardest part was getting enough wicking in there to keep it from leaking, but the P&C seems to have addressed that issue quite well.

The rebuilding will probably be somewhat more difficult, but the biggest obstacle right now is simply lack of tools/materials. That'll get fixed in May, with the fed refund.

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Heck, THAT'S no fun! :unsure: If you leave the order unchanged, you'll cut down on your vape mail anxiety...:facepalm:

Well, I'm very glad I didn't cancel/change the order. Both shipments are currently reading "Ready to ship" with current status saying "Packaging"... pics of both shipments within the order already in the epacket.

Woohoo! 8-12 more days until I get my new toys (supposedly)


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alisa1970 said:
Did you already replace the drip tip? I hated my PTII until I changed to a different drip tip. No more metal taste at all, even though my new drip tip is also metal. It must be the finishing on the inside or something--I rubbed and scrubbed the inside of the original to no avail.
No, I just put the one that came with it, back on it, since the other ones didn't seem to fit it right -- but I'll try that for sure! The glass one worked the best, and with that cinnamon, it's probably the best one for it anyhow. Thanks!!! :)

Alisa, thank you so much for this tip! I had the glass tip on it this morning, and problem solved, apparently; no hot-metal taste at all! woohoo!

Does anyone know if the IBtanked's IBtipsy tips have this problem? They have this exact shape of drip tip (as the one that comes with the Mini PT II); it's a bit costly, $9, but worth it if I can have both a tip that looks as if it matches the Mini, AND doesn't taste like hot metal.

Andria

EDIT: I see that Desert Vapes has one in a very similar shape, "Contour," but it's only $2.95 -- anyone used any metal tips from Desert Vapes?
 
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Andria, I've found metal drip tips on cartos run a little warm. Not uncomfortably, but warmer than on a bottom coil tank. I think it is due to the metal carto and the fact the vape is warmer. To me, a tip is a tip as long as it fits properly.

This one is for the Mini PT II, since the one that came on it tastes like hot metal.

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Andria, I've found metal drip tips on cartos run a little warm. Not uncomfortably, but warmer than on a bottom coil tank. I think it is due to the metal carto and the fact the vape is warmer. To me, a tip is a tip as long as it fits properly.

I have to disagree. I found a great difference in taste on the Kanger Protanks and on the IB Tanked carto tanks from metal to glass or acrylic drip tips. Using the same juice and setting but just changing the drip tip from the Kanger metal drip dips was like night and day in flavor. As far as fit goes any 510 drip tip with a O ring will work.
 

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I dislike the coldness of metal, or with a carto, the heat, but the main thing with this Mini PT II is that awful hot metal taste. Like you just french-kissed your car's radiator! bleah!

I like the slender glass one I got from desert vapes; it's so slender at the tip, it reminds me powerfully of those skinny "slims" I smoked. :D First mouthpiece I've encountered in vaping that actually felt "right" to me! ;)

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Ok, here's a more general question for y'all that have been ordering stuff a lot longer than I have. My host, where I have my email acct, is having some issues with the email server, for the server that my acct resides on. When you place an order, and the email can't get thru, what happens? Anything? The guy in at my host's tech support I just spoke to said that the incoming mail was just "in the queue" and would be delivered once email is restored, but I'm scared to death because I just placed that order to e5cigs in Hong Kong. Anyone else ever have this sort of problem?

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EDIT: Nevermind. They finally fixed the email, and I got the receipt and confirmation. Yippee! Vapemail in 2-3 wks! Now to order more, from the US! :D
 
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Speed we agree, I think! I prefer glass and acrylic tips over the metal. It may be a metal to tooth thing for me. I guess that is why I stick with the evods when I'm running errands. At home it is different story as I'll swap tanks or setups depending on flavor I want.

Honestly I think it's the base metal or the alloy mix that Kanger uses. I have a metal drip tip on my protank that I got with a mini RDA from Fasttech, and it made a completely unusable tank set up (due to the metallic taste) into one that I use most of the time now.

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Honestly I think it's the base metal or the alloy mix that Kanger uses. I have a metal drip tip on my protank that I got with a mini RDA from Fasttech, and it made a completely unusable tank set up (due to the metallic taste) into one that I use most of the time now.

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I agree. I never noticed such a taste difference until I tried a new acrylic tip. I also at times thought my lip burned using the Kanger metal tips. In any event all those metal tips are gone.
 

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I agree. I never noticed such a taste difference until I tried a new acrylic tip. I also at times thought my lip burned using the Kanger metal tips. In any event all those metal tips are gone.

Place a refilling drip tip from Ibtanked on your pt. It is a very comical pairing.

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I agree. I never noticed such a taste difference until I tried a new acrylic tip. I also at times thought my lip burned using the Kanger metal tips. In any event all those metal tips are gone.

When I first got that LR carto and the aluminum drip tip last week that my friend PIF'ed me, I ended up with a blister on both upper and lower lip, it was so godawful hot. So I ordered the std resistance cartos and a glass tip, got an acrylic tip at the B&M, and another acrylic from MFS. Not as happy with the 2nd acrylic, from MFS, because it's one of those very short ones. Still cooler than metal though. The one I got at the B&M is one of those "vase" shaped ones, and that one looks/fits best on the Mini PT II -- I put another o-ring right where the "groove" is, since the opening at the top is larger than the round part of the vase-shaped tip, and that really seals it nicely. If it was a black o-ring you wouldn't even be able to see it, against the black driptip.

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