I never really wanted to quit smoking, i enjoyed smoking after the normal meals, sex whatever, I just didn't like what the effects were of longterm from smoking.. When i switched over to my 510 about 10 months ago now the transition was a little slow at first but ended up not smking another analog after about 2 weeks.. Now i know nic isn't healthy for anyone, but i feel i've gained some years cause im not inhaling whatever it was in analogs.
The Key to stop smoking is Not the E-cigarette
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I was a 1.5 PAD smoker for almost 30 yrs. I smoked the Marlboro Light 100's, so I figured that I would need around 18-24mg nic juice. Not true! I've been vaping now a little over 2 months and I vape @ 30mg consistently and I DO vape alot more than I smoked, so, like everyone else here is saying, it just varies person by person
i have no hopes that ecigs will help me quit nicotine all together. i just wanted a way to get it without all the awful parts of actual smoking...the stink, the coughing, the restrictions, the cost, etc. it's so nice to be able to use it when/where i want with no smell and my cough is gone. my son tells me every day now how good i smell! can't beat that!
My assumption on e-juice levels were a bit warped at first as the first site I came across that persuaded me to do the switch from analogs to vapeing was the blu cigs site. They went from ultra light 8mg to full flavor 16 mg, luckily I found this site before my order had shipped so I was able to cancel it and go with a 510 but when I found that juice goes up to 36mg I assumed it would be like taking twice the amount of nicotine per drag than what a normal say camel filter would contain.
Now I know that's not necessarily the case, although the 36mg would be stronger than the average analog it is sometimes necessary to help the heavy smoker make the switch more smoothly. Personally I'm comfortable with the 18mg I originally started with but I kept myself to around 10-15 analogs a day and smoked for about 10 years, plus I quit smoking for a week before I decided I couldn't go on any longer on just patches and gum so that made the transition that much easier. My wife on the other hand smokes at least a pack a day and hasn't been able to switch to vapeing completely yet, I got her some 24mg and that seems to be helping.
I have yet to come across a thread with information on nic levels to get an idea of what to expect/recommend so this is quite the relevant topic.
Now I know that's not necessarily the case, although the 36mg would be stronger than the average analog it is sometimes necessary to help the heavy smoker make the switch more smoothly. Personally I'm comfortable with the 18mg I originally started with but I kept myself to around 10-15 analogs a day and smoked for about 10 years, plus I quit smoking for a week before I decided I couldn't go on any longer on just patches and gum so that made the transition that much easier. My wife on the other hand smokes at least a pack a day and hasn't been able to switch to vapeing completely yet, I got her some 24mg and that seems to be helping.
I have yet to come across a thread with information on nic levels to get an idea of what to expect/recommend so this is quite the relevant topic.
Just found a 2008 discussion on this subject on the main forum.
A very good read.
so are we getting it or are we not.. nicotine
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A very good read.
so are we getting it or are we not.. nicotine
Click Here
If you find information of benefit there...Come back here and share the information for the benefit of others.
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I'm going to have to disagree that Nicotene is the one main component that will determine if someone can quit smoking or not. There are too many variables related to vaping to definitively say that. I agree, it's one important aspect out of many. When considering the variables related to the juice/hardware it's also important to relate that to all the variables that exist from person to person. What works for one person might be different than what works for another.
It's all good though. Just remember the variables.
(did I mention variables?)
It's all good though. Just remember the variables.
(did I mention variables?)
Hello all, new guy to the forums. My wife and I have been pack a day smokers for the last 17 years. In July I bought us each a fifty-one brand e-cig. My wife hasn't touched an analog since. It didnt do anything for me. A month ago, I purchased us both a wetbox. (I know, let the comments flow....) We have had zero problems with the wetbox even though they seem to be the most hated device on the forums. I am not able to completely give up analogs. I absolutely love analogs and am only quitting because my wife asked me to. I am down to about 3 per day now and I vape non stop with 20mg juice. I am talking about constant vaping. I have to switch the high drain 14500 battery about every 4 hours. Even so, all I can think about is having a real smoke outside. After reading the opening post, I am thinking I need to go to 24mg or higher juice to completely get rid of the constant nonstop craving for an analog. I have quit numerous times for weeks at a time, used patches and gum, only to give into the bliss that smoking an analog brings. Any thoughts? I am starting to think I will never be able to completely walk away from them.
Bones 1274: Read DVaps blogs on this forum and/or the thread "are we getting it?" You might be missing the MAOI's from analogs. Try Swedish snus. It works for me.
I'm fairly new to ecigs..Im a 30+ year smoker ..my first purchase was a liquor store ecig..truly awful..but it did let me know If
i could possibly use it..I have stopped smoking ciggies..34 days now..I have since got a joy3 510..love it..however the thing for me was the juice..I thought if I dont find a juice to my liking..I'll never use this..and a box full of juice I'll never touch later..I began making my own..and have never looked back at ciggies..I did start at 24 mg..and use mostly 18 mg..but that 24 mg is my morning and night kick.
i could possibly use it..I have stopped smoking ciggies..34 days now..I have since got a joy3 510..love it..however the thing for me was the juice..I thought if I dont find a juice to my liking..I'll never use this..and a box full of juice I'll never touch later..I began making my own..and have never looked back at ciggies..I did start at 24 mg..and use mostly 18 mg..but that 24 mg is my morning and night kick.
as an x smoker..did we ever know how much nicotine we got in a ciggie..I sure did'nt
I think one just has to experment with the mg until they dont have the intense cravings
I think one just has to experment with the mg until they dont have the intense cravings
The type of PV along with the right nic level both work together. They definitely go hand in hand. I can put my 24mg nic in a crappy PV and have no satisfaction. You do need good equipment all the way around. I do think it's important that newbies understand that they may have to start out at a higher level and then work down from there. In the beginning I ordered e juice entirely too low and now it just sits there...a waste of money for now.
okay, first post here. i'm a newbie feeling some frustrations, and i have a lot to say, but this really caught my attention.
i started vaping with the idea that i would replace my analogs, and i have done that. i still have 2.5 or 3 packs in my pantry, and maybe knowing they were there helped me make the switch. i tried two analogs since i got my vp in the mail, and they tasted like crap.
what i really wanted to say is i think it is a great idea not to pressure yourself about it. i struggled with quitting drink for a long time. could not for the life of me quit. without getting into details, i had every reason to stop drinking, but what finally did it for me was a really stupid excuse. one day i thought, "wow, i'm getting pretty fat. maybe if i stop, i will lose some weight." in the greater scheme of things, my personal appearance was a minor reason to stop, but i just stopped. ten years, loads of vodka daily, and what finally did it was, "maybe i will lose some weight."
at first i thought it was creepy and didn't say much about me and my values that that was the motivator that worked. now i realize it worked because it wasn't a high pressure, important thing to worry about. if i didn't sober up, i might stay overweight.
i hope that makes sense.
so.
to sum up, yeah, don't be so hard on yourself about making the switch, but enjoy yourself, don't worry about it and see what comes of it.
okay, i will post again already.
i got my pv (premium e-cigs) last friday, so that is just short of a week. i expect i will have to upgrade on pv soon, but i do know i have already avoided five or six packs of smokes. i started with the "high" carts, (16mg), and puffed through them pretty quick. i was getting desperate waiting for more (they arrived today), and went down to the local headshop and picked up johnson creek espresso high (24mg).
the flavor is very strong, but suddenly i felt MUCH better about it, if a little sick of the espresso. the vg and the higher nic seem to have hit the spot for me. i did not notice until today that i was using a higher nic level. it all makes sense now.
that said, i don't mind the lower carts i have for mindless puffing, but when i am craving a smoke, the 24 seems to do it.
now i just need to find some better flavors than the jc (not to mention that i am just putting it into used up prefilled carts, so i am sure that affects quality and flavor), and settle on my next hardware. (fwiw, the espresso is good if you like coffee, but strong! my cabinet stinks of it. the strawberry is much better than i expected, and i haven't tried the choco mint i purchased today. really looking for a fine cola flavor and a nice vanilla. nothing too sweet, please.)
It seems to be the consensus on the forum is that the nicotine in e-liquid form affects everyone differently. I was a 30 year PAD smoker 3 months ago, when I "accidentally quit" after purchasing a 510 so I wouldn't kill myself or someone else on airplane trips. I, like a lot, tried 18mg first, and it is way to high for me. I get a serious nic high, get dizzy and discombobulated when I do 18mg. I go with somewhere around 12mg now, and maybe 18mg when I'm drinking or right after a meal... I'm mixing my own juice so it's easy to get the nic level where I want. I don't think we'll ever be able to have a chart that will tell someone what nic level they need to be at based on their analog habit levels. It seems that starting at 18 and moving up or down from that level is the way to go...
And speaking as someone who's been trying various different hardware for the past two years, the PV itself is a huge part of the equation! With my first automatic "Health E-Cigarette", or the Xhale I picked up at a convenience store, I would not have been able to quit analogs with _any_ liquid. It took that 510, that I was lucky enough to pick up at a flea market in St. Petersburg Florida (thanks Gator Vapor!) to convince me it was time to give PV's a real try. My PV of choice now is a 3.7v Nicostick style mod I made myself, but I also have 510's, mega 510's, Ego's and several 510 passthroughs.
And speaking as someone who's been trying various different hardware for the past two years, the PV itself is a huge part of the equation! With my first automatic "Health E-Cigarette", or the Xhale I picked up at a convenience store, I would not have been able to quit analogs with _any_ liquid. It took that 510, that I was lucky enough to pick up at a flea market in St. Petersburg Florida (thanks Gator Vapor!) to convince me it was time to give PV's a real try. My PV of choice now is a 3.7v Nicostick style mod I made myself, but I also have 510's, mega 510's, Ego's and several 510 passthroughs.
Well i have an interesting story in my eyes. I only used to smoke about 1/2-3/4 pack a day and i accidentaly bought 30mg juice and it suites me just fine sometimes i even am craving more. I usually chain smoke throuought the day. And now I am thinking about getting 36mg juice. Strange isnt it?
Yep, I've read this story over and over since reading these forums. Heavy ex-smokers using low nic and others who barely smoked vaping what would knock me out! I think everyone's body just reacts very differently to the juice than they do to analogs.
Although I think the title could seem a bit misleading, I agree with the OP content.
I didn't make this common mistake, being a PAD smoker and doing a small amount of prior research and sampling before buying an ecig and juice, I already understood that for an ejuice to be satisfactory for me (used to be 12mg Winfield PAD) it had to be 24mg ejuice from the beginning.
I think if I had tried to switch on anything lighter the experience would have been difficult to unsuccessful. I think those who avoid this common dilemma are those who do research and/or get to try ecig's (and discuss with friends/vapers) beforehand.
I didn't make this common mistake, being a PAD smoker and doing a small amount of prior research and sampling before buying an ecig and juice, I already understood that for an ejuice to be satisfactory for me (used to be 12mg Winfield PAD) it had to be 24mg ejuice from the beginning.
I think if I had tried to switch on anything lighter the experience would have been difficult to unsuccessful. I think those who avoid this common dilemma are those who do research and/or get to try ecig's (and discuss with friends/vapers) beforehand.
I smoked over a pack a day for 30 years, usually marlboro lights or mediums, and I find 18mg to be just right for me. I vape the 24mg samples I get from Freedomsmokes, but I find it has a little too much "bite" for me, so I don't order it. As others have said, smoking and vaping affect everyone differently, so a heavy smoker may prefer a low nic vape and vice versa. Like everything else about vaping, the only way to know is through trial and error.
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