The Lemo RTA: A Build With Pics

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VaPreis

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The lemo will most defiantly be my first rta. The fact that you can get a quality rta for $35-40 that isn't a clone is enough of a reason for me. I am realizing more and more everyday that I prefer a stronger air flow as well. I guess you can say I'm a mouth to lung hitter, I always just felt that a tighter draw means I gotta take a longer harder hit. eleaf is really coming up, I just got my istick yesterday and I'm in love with it. It's nice to know that I can move up to the advanced vaping equipment without breaking the bank or resorting to cheap knock offs.

Having used mostly clones before, the Lemo's build quality quickly becomes apparent. Heck, even the pre-wrapped coil that comes installed in it looks great.

I doubt you'll be disappointed.

Vaper Company has them back in stock for $33.95/Free Shipping. :vapor:
 

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    Yeah I already bought one. Now I just need to get some Japanese cotton or rayon. Do any of you guys who have tried both have a preference? Is it just a myth that rayon has a weird taste at first?

    I did not like rayon, I did find it taste strange for me, but use it in my wives protank coils and she does like it, now I am using japanese cotton, which is all I use now :D
     

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    I bought a big box of Rayon last week and have been messing around with it. Honestly, I don't seem to have the hang of it in terms of getting the right density. And for the time being, I've gone back to my tried and true CVS organic cotton balls. I've done a couple builds using Rayon that worked and tasted great, but just as many others that didn't or gave me funky dry hits, a problem I never have using the organic cotton balls.

    I haven't given up on Rayon, I'm just not completely sold on it yet.
     

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    I bought a big box of Rayon last week and have been messing around with it. Honestly, I don't seem to have the hang of it in terms of getting the right density. And for the time being, I've gone back to my tried and true CVS organic cotton balls. I've done a couple builds using Rayon that worked and tasted great, but just as many others that didn't or gave me funky dry hits, a problem I never have using the organic cotton balls.

    I haven't given up on Rayon, I'm just not completely sold on it yet.

    It took me a good month to get the hang of it. There is a post somewhere in the giant rayon thread that someone used the term 'floss the coil' and it clicked for me and after that I got it. You can put too much of it in the coil, peel the edges off a bit if you need to. Then 'floss' the coil a bit to lessen the density inside the coil. Tad more than cotton, but it should still slide through.

    Just found it...kinda long.

    "I've been struggling for two weeks trying to get consistent results on a Kayfun 3.1 ES clone.
    A lot of my problems stem from this being my first Kayfun-style RBA
    My latest build - 1.3Ω, 8/9 28ga - has been the most successful to date.
    Here are some things that I noticed, that have been mentioned in the thread.
    (I am using the Sally's Beauty Graham CelluCotton Coil #44060)
    (I have my coil at 45°)

    tl;dr:
    * don't compress or roll the wick
    * squeeze the wick to feed it through the coil
    * 'floss' the coil, feel for squeak, coil deformation means too much wick

    The long version:
    * I use between 1/3 and 1/4 of the width of the CCR coil,
    at a length more than I would need say, 3" or so

    * I do NOT roll or twist AT ALL - instead, I kind of run it through my fingers,
    lightly, starting from the center and working outwards, as if I were going to
    pull it apart with my fingers; using all fingers but my pinky.
    This doesn't take long, and there is very little squeezing or compressing.

    * I do twist an end to get it started through the coil.
    Once I meet the initial resistance, I have to 'squeeze' the CCR
    as it goes into the coil. If the density is right, you have to squeeze
    both ends to 'floss' the coil, and you will feel the 'squeak'.
    I am wicking on top of a Vamo; if I don't hold the mod, it would tip
    as I pull the CCR through.

    * If the resistance is right, you will have to squeeze the CCR to feed it back
    and forth, but you won't deform your coil. If you're deforming your coil, you can
    pull it back out, and 'peel' some strands away. This is where making it a little
    longer (you'll have lost some length trimming down the twisted end) and not
    compressing it comes into play- too tightly compressed or twisted, and you can't
    peel off precision amounts, and you'll have to start all over.

    * After 'flossing', the tails on either side of the coil should look approximately the same.
    I trim at the threads of the tank, and then trim again. I found trimming at the chamber
    threads to be too short, and trimming at the edge of the base too long.

    * At this point there is some contention - some folks further trim the wick. I haven't
    found this necessary. I just wet the wick with juice, starting with a drop on the coil,
    then wetting from the center out, and putting a drop or two more on the coil.
    Once wet, I 'glue' the wick to the deck walls, avoiding the threads and channels.

    * I screw the chamber back on, and then inspect. I have found that if I can see the channels,
    I will be in business. If the wick moved because of the chamber, I tuck it back toward
    the wall of the deck, working it until I can see the channels again.

    And that's it. Various test firings should be done, if only to preview the vapor production.
    If I have the wick wet thoroughly enough, and my coil is good, I see some excellent vapor
    plumes come off the coil.

    This is what has finally worked for me. I went through one tank, inspected, and the coil
    looked good - a little dark, but not gunked. The wick looked clean, although I did have one
    side almost blocking the channel."

    Hope that helps!
     

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    Pbusardo compared organic cotton, hemp, Japanese cotton and rayon and he found Japanese to wick the best but hold flavors longer between flavors. Rayon came second in wicking. Organic cotton was third and hemp came last. Interesting

    Just watched that video, very interesting. Kinda makes sense though, fact is anything sold in the states in a chain store is probably treated with some sort of chemical and/or man made process. When you think about, "organic" is basically just a subjective term determined by the FDA. So I can believe that a purer form of cotton would produce better flavor.
     

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    Pbusardo compared organic cotton, hemp, Japanese cotton and rayon and he found Japanese to wick the best but hold flavors longer between flavors. Rayon came second in wicking. Organic cotton was third and hemp came last. Interesting

    *Rayon came in second in dry wicking. Which really doesn't apply to how we're using it. Busardo needed a little more experience with Rayon when he made that video. I've used every wicking media out there, and unless you're doing it wrong, Rayon wicks best, period.

    The fact that it "holds flavors longer" confirms that Japanese cotton doesn't wick as well.
     

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    Ok let's see if a .9 ohm parallel coil gives me a better vape with the added surface area
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    Ok that's MUCH BETTER. Definitely needed some more surface area to vape at higher watts. And since all I had on hand was 28 gauge the parallel coil was the way to go. Pretty tricky getting both wires under the screws though. I did that because I was having a hell of a time getting it into the side holes.

    Anyways, now I can vape at 30-35 watts without any issues. I had some cotton bacon a friend gave me to try and it seems to be holding up. At least for the few vapes I've taken so far. I may still pick up some rayon to see what that's all about though.
     

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    Ok that's MUCH BETTER. Definitely needed some more surface area to vape at higher watts. And since all I had on hand was 28 gauge the parallel coil was the way to go. Pretty tricky getting both wires under the screws though. I did that because I was having a hell of a time getting it into the side holes.

    Anyways, now I can vape at 30-35 watts without any issues. I had some cotton bacon a friend gave me to try and it seems to be holding up. At least for the few vapes I've taken so far. I may still pick up some rayon to see what that's all about though.

    I think you'll enjoy it even more with some thicker wire too.

    I have now tried dual 28ga coils, dual 26ga coils, parallel 28ga, parallel 26ga, and 11 wrap single coils using 24ga at 2.4mm. Of course it's subjective, but my favorite in terms of flavor and performance has been the huge 24ga single coils. I'm starting to think the flavor is better using longer coils, wider then the center air hole.

    I haven't bothered to use the side holes for mounting the coils, but instead I wrap both leads completely around the screw at the same time, whether it's a single coil, dual, or parallel. Gets trickier when wrapping two 26ga wires, but it's very doable. Eliminates the possibility of one of the leads coming loose.
     
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    I think you'll enjoy it even more with some thicker wire too.

    I have now tried dual 28ga coils, dual 26ga coils, dual parallel 28ga, dual parallel 26ga, and 11 wrap single coils using 24ga at 2.4mm. Of course it's subjective, but my favorite in terms of flavor and performance has been the huge 24ga single coils. I'm starting to think the flavor is better using longer coils, wider then the center air hole.

    I haven't bothered to use the side holes for mounting the coils, but instead I wrap both leads completely around the screw at the same time, whether it's a single coil, dual, or parallel. Gets trickier when wrapping two 26ga wires, but it's very doable. Eliminates the possibility of one of the leads coming loose.

    I'm using 27g and it works pretty well. I don't have the skills yet to do the duals or 26g, but I'm working on it...
     

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    I think you'll enjoy it even more with some thicker wire too.

    I have now tried dual 28ga coils, dual 26ga coils, dual parallel 28ga, dual parallel 26ga, and 11 wrap single coils using 24ga at 2.4mm. Of course it's subjective, but my favorite in terms of flavor and performance has been the huge 24ga single coils. I'm starting to think the flavor is better using longer coils, wider then the center air hole.

    I haven't bothered to use the side holes for mounting the coils, but instead I wrap both leads completely around the screw at the same time, whether it's a single coil, dual, or parallel. Gets trickier when wrapping two 26ga wires, but it's very doable. Eliminates the possibility of one of the leads coming loose.

    Holy crap. Dual parallel on a Lemo!? Not sure how that's even possible without 3 posts. And honestly I don't know if I could even swing that on my Tobh V2.5. But then again I'm fairly new to building dual coils.
     

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    Just got my lemo in today this thing is pretty awesome. The air flow is serious, I'm coming from evod clearos so this is a major difference. Decided to use the stock build that came with it, a 1.2 ohm coil by the reading on my istick, have it set to 14.8 watts/4.2 volts. Flavor, vapor production, and throat hit all off the charts, I feel like I'm getting the real flavor of my liquid for the first time. Looks like all my clearos will be officially going into retirement.
     
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