I absolutely love my Marquis. It has the best flavor of any atty period. I do feel like it is much better when build with the smaller rods tho. With any atty I find that a big diameter coil kills the flavor and this one if no exception. Another thing I have found that intensifies flavor even more is if you wick you dual vertical coils with one piece of cotton in an upside down "U" shape, then fold the cotton towards the upper unused part of the deck. I think what this does is block the air from coming up to the drip tip from behind the coil and forces it to go all the way around the coil before going up into your mouth.
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I think I understand what you're saying in terms of the wicking you describe but do you have a pic you can post showing what you mean?
Most of my vaping is with tiny chambered, tight airflow atties, for intense flavour. I use larger airflow to blow off steam (pun intended) and have a bit of fun. I vape on mechs only, which may also make my opinion a bit different...
For single & dual builds, with tighter air, flavour is excellent in both. With airflow opened up, the Raptor takes it for me for flavour.
As with all things, people will prefer one over the other, but I don't think anyone would be disappointed owning either atty
Don't know how tagging works here, but I know a loud Texan - @FearTX who also has both atties and would vape at much higher power than I do - maybe he could give a more wide ranging opinion, than I can...
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Most of my vaping is with tiny chambered, tight airflow atties, for intense flavour. I use larger airflow to blow off steam (pun intended) and have a bit of fun. I vape on mechs only, which may also make my opinion a bit different...
For single & dual builds, with tighter air, flavour is excellent in both. With airflow opened up, the Raptor takes it for me for flavour.
As with all things, people will prefer one over the other, but I don't think anyone would be disappointed owning either atty
Don't know how tagging works here, but I know a loud Texan - @FearTX who also has both atties and would vape at much higher power than I do - maybe he could give a more wide ranging opinion, than I can...
Much thanks.
I've only gotten into RDAs in the past couple months finally but your usage is to where I've gravitated. Clouds? Very very rarely, and just for fun. I use iSticks (20w and 50w) and ordered a Marquis clone a couple days ago to see if I like it. Thus far Ive just 2 RDAs - the PlumeVeil clone and IGO-W and I vastly prefer the latter, which steered me toward the Marquis and hence, this thread. edit: I know this is a Marquis thread but as far as the Plume goes I found it to be an airy, finnicky, drippy mess of an atty. IMO
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YES, you will be overwhelmed with the flavor.
Raptor, but is is a PITA because of the top post. You get used to it and it becomes a labor of love. I am a flavor chaser who also vapes high wattages at times, I do not look for clouds but do not mind them being there as long as the flavor is there. I like the chest feel of "volume vaping", that being said single tight to wide open dual, cotton or mesh or rayon. Raptor does everything it does really well. WAY too hot above 75 watts for me tho
In contrast there is another atty that people are saying these are based off of. I loved the flavor from it, but the struggle is real, Veritas 1 was not worth the PITA to rebuild. IMO
Most of my vaping is with tiny chambered, tight airflow atties, for intense flavour. I use larger airflow to blow off steam (pun intended) and have a bit of fun. I vape on mechs only, which may also make my opinion a bit different...
For single & dual builds, with tighter air, flavour is excellent in both. With airflow opened up, the Raptor takes it for me for flavour.
As with all things, people will prefer one over the other, but I don't think anyone would be disappointed owning either atty
Don't know how tagging works here, but I know a loud Texan - @FearTX who also has both atties and would vape at much higher power than I do - maybe he could give a more wide ranging opinion, than I can...
Hi Sam
In a perfect world Dino and Darren would get together and combine the removable drip tip section of the Marquis and the top post of the Marquis into the Raptor. Retaining that flawless Hellfire machining and finish
Until then there is RAPTOR.I love both, I would have kept the Marquis, unfortunately I am not a rich man, I do ok but cannot afford to have thousands and thousands of $ in unused gear and still feed the Vape Mail Monster. My Marquis from the first batch bought used was passed on to a friend today.
Flavor, Performance, Versatility or it gets cut from my atty collection these days. Except for some exclusions.
Much thanks.
Small chamber & tight airflow is a whole other subject, that I could post all day on.
I don't agree with cloning in any way shape or form, but putting my thoughts on that to the side, I would say one thing: Regardless of how closely copied a clone is, it's best never to judge an authentic from clone performance - you wouldn't judge a Ferrari by how a re-bodied Fiero drives
To further buttress the "Different Strokes for Different Folks" saying I do, more or less, the opposite of your build and love the flavor. I'm game to try your way but, I doubt I have the patience or skill. If you get a chance to post a pic I'd like to see.
Thanks!
Small chamber & tight airflow is a whole other subject, that I could post all day on.
I don't agree with cloning in any way shape or form, but putting my thoughts on that to the side, I would say one thing: Regardless of how closely copied a clone is, it's best never to judge an authentic from clone performance - you wouldn't judge a Ferrari by how a re-bodied Fiero drives
I wholeheartedly agree with you in principle but at the end of the day I don't have the means to spend (literally) hundreds in search for an atty that genuinely works for me at the prices "authentics" have climbed to. So much of this has become about a bling factor in this industry: a gazillion true stone drip tips, etched and exclusive, numbered, short-run releases... all of this is enjoyed (uncriticised by me for the most part) by many, many folks. All I really want is something that works well and keeps me off analogs until I can wean myself from the chemical, and continue to enjoy a hobby that for me will never be a fashion statement. To that end, I'm fine with a clone and if it works well for me it's reasonable to assume the authentic will perform even better... *and*, if that's the case, I'll buy it.
I'm sure this has all been covered ad nauseam, and I'm not trying to derail this thread. Just lookin for a solid vape that suits me.
Clone cost me $25 authentic is around $140 or something.
Are the costs of making it in the first place really worth five times more ?
I can't possibly see how the authentic would be fives times better than the one I have.
Authentics can be good in function and price - lemo $35 great , k4 say $180 perhaps also good ( dependant on who you read that has one) I don't have one but Im sure for me it can't be $145 better than my lemo.
Are the costs of making it in the first place really worth five times more ?
I can't possibly see how the authentic would be fives times better than the one I have.
Authentics can be good in function and price - lemo $35 great , k4 say $180 perhaps also good ( dependant on who you read that has one) I don't have one but Im sure for me it can't be $145 better than my lemo.
If thats the case then I think the original marquis must be disappointing value wise.
Anyone got an original and a tobecco to say otherwise ?
If its a 1:1 clone then I think all comments are pretty much valid on a persons thoughts on the device.
Anyone got an original and a tobecco to say otherwise ?
If its a 1:1 clone then I think all comments are pretty much valid on a persons thoughts on the device.
I agree this should *not* be turned into that sort of thread. But that said this thread already has a huge number of posts relating to the clone version, predominantly Tobeco, which from the reports I've read seems to more than warrant being a part of the conversation.
Mine arrived yesterday morning and I am in love with it in all aspects but one, which I'll get to. But the building, the leak resistance, the finish and small touches are fantastic. The flavor (finally found a stride with a 8/9 wrap of .28 kanthal on the 3mm post - single coil) is fantastic. I won't go over everything because many have. But ...
...the one thing that drove me bonkers all yesterday and last night was the dang cap. The top peek caps for the 510 drip. It's wonderful how easy it is to gain access for dripping, and the different options are marvelous, but inevitably, all last night the drip tip and cap kept coming off. It happened in my small Sigelei case, upright in my pocket, upright in my pack, with a 510 connected, or with just the wide-bore stainless (though less easily). It fits as it should - the tolerances seems to match every vid I've watched... It's just that when you push on the tip it unseats and it doesn't come out, but if you push on it again from the other side, it pops out nearly every time (as it should). That just doesn't work for what I thought was going to be a pocket-friendly atty. Instead I was fishing for the tip-cap more than a couple times in my jacket pocket or in my bag. I started removing the drip I was using and just leaving it in a different pocket but then there's just one more thing I might loose. I dunno - I probably get used to it, but such a weird thing to irked about.
Honestly I'll probably continue taking my IGO-W round-and-about instead of the Marquis for this reason alone.... but then again maybe not. Just wanted to share. Anyone else experience this?
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Setup with upper bridge on both of Marquis and Raptor.
On the Marquis it's the best setup setup, on the Raptor the bridge is not required.
Flavours are great on both of us but the Marquis is really the best in terms of ergonomy and usage.
On the Marquis it's the best setup setup, on the Raptor the bridge is not required.
Flavours are great on both of us but the Marquis is really the best in terms of ergonomy and usage.
My top cap with the delrin on it doesn't seem to push in and get snug easily. To get it to fit in even and flush takes some fiddling around.
Perhaps yours is not being fitted correctly.
I totally get what you're saying. I have the clone from Tobeco and while I love everything about it (flavor, ease of building coils, vapor production, leak resistance) the top cap comes loose very easily. This is the only thing that annoys me about this RDA, I had to switch the o-ring to get it to seat properly. The first one that it came with was annoying to get seated flush. The new o-ring I put in there makes it much easier to put back in but it still comes loose too easily. I think it's because it's so shallow and wide. I wonder if people who bought the authentic version have the same issue or if it's just an issue with the clone from Tobeco...
I have the Tobecco Marquis clone
After I get the drip tip to fit snug and even it holds in very well.
I have it on a SMPL mod with a samsung 25R battery inside and I can lift the whole thing just by the drip tip.
Heres me with it suspended - battery inside - just by holding the drip tip.
So when the drip tip is in correctly it stays in very well.
So I grabbed what appears to be a tobecco clone of the Marquis this last weekend. For the most part I'm pleased. I was getting some funny tastes off it originally but I gave it a hot soapy rinse and it seems to have settled out. I am however getting an odd slightly off taste towards the end of my vape. I'm running a .25 dual coil build..is it possible I burned an insulator that I can't see? Also is there a way to adjust the alignment of the center positive post? My wire traps are not in the correct alignment and its bugging the hell out of me.
Mine seats just fine, quite well actually and I too can hold it by the drip tip without it coming out. I am mostly just talking about when I'm carrying it. If it goes into my pocket, or case, or bag, 4 out 5 times that I check on it, the drip tip has popped off or is about to. I'm curious also if this happens to authentic users.
I got the tobeco clone....
Beautifull!!! So impressed with flavor. I have a lemon bar from a local b&m that mixes juice at the shop, there own juice. It's very lemony out of my clt, but out of the marquis, it tastes like butter cake with a hint of lemon. Wouldn't even think it is the same juice!
My top cap does come off kinda easy, but isn't that the point? Nothing is ever perfect. If we had packs of smokes we would be complaining about the box getting squished when it gets sat on. "But it's a hard box why does it squish?" "It's a easy remove top, why does it come off in my pocket when I move around?" Lol.
I have no complaints whatsoever. Will make sure it's in a pocket I can find the tip in if it comes out.
Tried a chimney, couldn't get wicks to re wet fast enough, kept getting burnt flavor. Will have to watch tutorials on that one. For now, dual 26 10 wraps, vertical. AMAZING!!!!
Beautifull!!! So impressed with flavor. I have a lemon bar from a local b&m that mixes juice at the shop, there own juice. It's very lemony out of my clt, but out of the marquis, it tastes like butter cake with a hint of lemon. Wouldn't even think it is the same juice!
My top cap does come off kinda easy, but isn't that the point? Nothing is ever perfect. If we had packs of smokes we would be complaining about the box getting squished when it gets sat on. "But it's a hard box why does it squish?" "It's a easy remove top, why does it come off in my pocket when I move around?" Lol.
I have no complaints whatsoever. Will make sure it's in a pocket I can find the tip in if it comes out.
Tried a chimney, couldn't get wicks to re wet fast enough, kept getting burnt flavor. Will have to watch tutorials on that one. For now, dual 26 10 wraps, vertical. AMAZING!!!!
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