The myth of second hand vape

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zoiDman

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Whip out my 44 and shoot her right between the eyes. My defense will be she left me no choice I asked her politely to play nice with everyone and she refused. This type of person is the bain of our society and some might grieve her loss the world is a better place for her not polluting its air any longer with her black mailish behavior and intolerant ways.

Man... I wish I lived in Texas and Not in Kalifornia.

Employee Management would be So Much Easier if I did.

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JSYK - The UCI Policy is Good. But do understand that it doesn't mean that e-Cigarettes can be Used Anywhere on Campus.

WHAT ABOUT E-CIGARETTES?

Individual campus units may manage e-cigarette use in their own environments as they deem appropriate up to and including prohibiting their use.

FAQ: UCI Smoke-Free Policy Task Force

and...

"Vasich emphasized that e-cigarettes emit vapors, not smoke. Also, he added, individual areas of the campus, such as an office or classroom, have the authority to ban e-cigarettes."

Irvine only campus in UC system allowing e-cigs amid ban - The Orange County Register

Which is all that I ask for. Let a business owner decide for himself whether or not to regulate the use of e-cigs as he see's fit. Then vapers can decide whether or not to continue to patronize his business.

The BUSINESS OWNER, not some fat politician with his hand buried deep up some lobbyist's backside making Public Health Policy that has nothing to do with the Public's Health.

Everyone here I am sure believes that vaping is safer than normal cigarette use. Not only first hand (as in our using it) but second hand (as in healthier for our loved ones and surrounding people. If you don't then I guess I question why you are vaping in the first place....

If is definitely less obnoxious than smoking.

Yet, we see Anti Tobacco money being used to discourage e-cig usage despite it's potential to save lives. BT had to give money to these "alphabet anti tobacco" trusts as punishment and they still control how that money is spent? How does that work. Universities and townships are being told that they are not entitled to this money unless the regulate e-cigs in the same manner as cigarettes.

It is refreshing when a member of the government, or other official can state the obvious and then let the chips fall where they might.

It is much better than the stupidity spouted by the representatives at the NYC council meeting which said of e-cig usage.

"If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck.....It's a duck".

One of the patently looniest things I have heard someone say.

The NYC proceeded with their ban, not based on any evidence that primary or second hand vape was harmful but rather the presence of people vaping makes enforcement of smoking bans more difficult.

Really? Do the people of New York have the inability to smell?

The underlying purpose of this thread was to show, using logic and mathematics, that second hand vape should be considered as not having any significant health risks unless studies show otherwise.

I think I have achieved that goal.
 

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Which is all that I ask for. Let a business owner decide for himself whether or not to regulate the use of e-cigs as he see's fit. Then vapers can decide whether or not to continue to patronize his business.

The BUSINESS OWNER, not some fat politician with his hand buried deep up some lobbyist's backside making Public Health Policy that has nothing to do with the Public's Health.

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I hear what you are saying opus.

And Choosing where one shops is sorta a Self-Solving Remedy for Shoppers.

But what about the Workplace? And situations like I Outlined Below?

Fair Enough.

But No Sooner than you Enact your Indoor Vaping Policy, One of your Best, Most Senior Members of your Staff storms into your office in a Rage and Demands that you Stop Someone from Vaping next to her desk.

And if you don't, she is going to get a Lawyer. Or Quit. Or Both.

Great. Now what do you Do?

And BTW - You don't live in Texas so Shooting Someone is Not an Option.
 
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Fair Enough.

But No Sooner than you Enact your Indoor Vaping Policy, One of your Best, Most Senior Members of your Staff storms into your office in a Rage and Demands that you Stop Someone from Vaping next to her desk.

And if you don't, she is going to get a Lawyer. Or Quit. Or Both.

Great. Now what do you Do?

Fire the beeyatch and wonder why someone like that was tolerated long enough to become senior staff.
 
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Which is all that I ask for. Let a business owner decide for himself whether or not to regulate the use of e-cigs as he see's fit. Then vapers can decide whether or not to continue to patronize his business.

Agree 100%, but I'll also add that vapers shouldn't assume that the business owner is uneducated on vaping if vaping is not allowed. Nor should they "stealth vape" to get around the policy, or have an attitude of "I'll vape wherever I want, I have rights"
 

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Fire the beeyatch and wonder why someone like that was tolerated long enough to be senior staff.

Careful... Kalifornia has All Kinds of Wrongful Termination Laws. And Bottom Feeding, Ambulance Chasing, Scum Sucking Lawyers Outnumber the Legal Residents by Almost 2 to 1.
 

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Fire the beeyatch and wonder why someone like that was tolerated long enough to be senior staff.

Wahoo more sane thinking from another person that dose not have state taxes and serves sweet tea! Whats up with them dern CA.ns you ask for sweat tea with your meal and they point to the sugar packets on the table!!!!!! And they charge you full price for half made tea:blink:

Theres something that should be banned !!!!!!!
 

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Careful... Kalifornia has All Kinds of Wrongful Termination Laws. And Bottom Feeding, Ambulance Chasing, Scum Sucking Lawyers Outnumber the Legal Residents by Almost 2 to 1.
Understood. Left there in the 70s with no desire to return. Y'all have made it a real cesspool.
 

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Wahoo more sane thinking from another person that dose not have state taxes and serves sweet tea! Whats up with them dern CA.ns you ask for sweet tea with your meal and they point to the sugar packets on the table!!!!!! And they charge you full price for half made tea:blink:

Theres something that should be banned !!!!!!!

San Antonio?

You're welcome. :D
 

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you could argue that a business could benefit the same way by allowing vaping, but that's currently not the case.

We went thru that already with Bring Your Dog To Work/ pet friendly workplaces.

46% of the US households own a dog.

19-20% of US households has a smoker, that prevalence is at an all time low.

Of the smallish 19% of workplaces that still have dog friendly workplaces, most of that % is made of miniscule sized companies, where it is easy for the majority of employees to "share" a culture and philosophy.

I predict that Talk Like A Pirate Days will be more popular than Bring your Vape to Work Days.
 

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Ohhhh did you see where the Drexel Study is going to be published by BMC Public Health? Winning!
Outstanding! Thanks for letting us know!:)

So, because of that, those of us with viewpoints that are different than hers should just sit here and take her abuse?
Only if you really want to.

Do you have evidence that vaping is completely safe, without risks whatsoever? No. So therefore, vaping does have some risks, many of which are currently unknown, or at least that's what I pick up as the general consensus here on the forum.
I think someone needs to explain to you the difference between vaping and second hand vape.
 
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It continues to boggle my mind why some people are so against having more studies done on something we inhale into our bodies. More mind boggling even is why these people are so angry with those who advocate for more studies. What is the harm in having more studies done?

I don't think you can find anyone saying "Don't do any studies".
 

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Can't keep up with the :pop:
But I'll try. :pop:

Vape On
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Enough for everyone to enjoy :)

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Hey Don't Blame me.

I keep trying to Vote those Low Life's out of Office.

But they keep Voting them Back In.
Why do you think they keep tryen to take yalls guns it ant cause they are worried about you shooting each other they are worried you'll get tired of them and start shooting
 
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