Well I said I wouldn't post here because of my bad experiences with the Nano (Nono) and not wanting to be negative, but I am posting anyway. I really want these to work for me and I'm still trying to get the first two working. I did wash them with hot water multiple times and while there was some improvement, the taste was so bad I couldn't use them. They have been sitting full of liquids, one SI RY4, 12mg, and one DIY RY4, 12mg, ever since. Every so often during the day I keep trying them again, hoping for better results. This morning, the one with SI RY4 no longer tasted terrible, it just didn't taste much at all. The DIY one still had that awful taste. Some progress, but an awful long time to make it. Now they are sitting in vodka for the rest of the day. When I take them out I plan on using a syringe with a 1.5" needle to shoot some vodka down the air tubes to make sure the atomizer chamber is as clean as I can get it. I'll probably just fill them and give them a try again and I really want, and hope, that they work right. I am still very bothered by the fact that there have been no insturctions from SI regarding cleaning these. That seems very odd to me, especially since I have asked in both threads and in PMs. From what little experience I have with them, they do not seem to come apart at all which would make cleaning in the traditional way somewhat of a problem. I am watching the polling and it really isn't very impressive, but then again, people never seem to want to vote for anything, look at the state of our government, LOL.