The new 18650 NoEgo

[WillyB]

One thing to keep in mind with this type of VV is that there is no feedback so as your battery voltage drops with use you will need to turn up the VV slightly to compensate. I will add a cutoff so that it will shut down when the batteries reach a certain point however so that they can not be drained beyond a certain point.

No offense, but that is really a dead end street.

If I was going to offer folks a higher volt option I'd go with a "5V" GLV2 approach, not VV, but a higher volt option. Still a very popular and often recommended HV PV. It's fans are very rabid and loyal.

GLV-2 Electronic Cigarette [GLV-2] - $110.00 : Electronic Cigarettes and E-Liquid - Great Lakes Vapor

Tons of reviews praising it and it's performance on YouTube.

All you would need is a tube that can handle a stacked pair of 3.7V cells (16340s) and a 1Ω power resistor (about a 3W would cover it) 'switch'.

 

[bstedh]

I think the main point is to keep it affordable however. For a lot of people a $110 mod is on the steep side and will keep many away.

 

[mwa102464]

Not me, for the price of that GLV I would take one of these, and I did = Akkuträger - Wir bauen II

 

[jersully]

Back on topic... Romaniac, have you considered pre-orders? I'd place an order now for the copper body 5v.

 

[fsroq]

I think the main point is to keep it affordable however. For a lot of people a $110 mod is on the steep side and will keep many away.

Agree. Then after I got my first VV mod, I will not buy any other then VV anymore.

I got so used to crank up or lower down the volts on any carto or atty, depending on my mood or stress, that I just cant imagine to go back to a mod permitting only to vape at a fixed voltage.

The no Ego looks very nice to me, and I would buy one if VV for around 100$, if it has enough power to handle 1.5 Ohm cartos up to 5.5 Volts.

 

[romaniac]

I think the main point is to keep it affordable however. For a lot of people a $110 mod is on the steep side and will keep many away.

Modular design is the way to go . Each individual will have the opportunity to chose the configuration that is the most appropriate to their individual preference

 

[oblivyan]

Agree. Then after I got my first VV mod, I will not buy any other then VV anymore.

I got so used to crank up or lower down the volts on any carto or atty, depending on my mood or stress, that I just cant imagine to go back to a mod permitting only to vape at a fixed voltage.

The no Ego looks very nice to me, and I would buy one if VV for around 100$, if it has enough power to handle 1.5 Ohm cartos up to 5.5 Volts.

I would agree. The only thing I am really picky about is the voltage drop. I won't buy a VV mod that does not keep the voltage regulated at the voltage I set it at. If I have it set at 5.2 volts and it drops under load, there's really not point in vv and it turns into a guessing game, which I don't like =)

 

[oplholik]

Is there any chance of getting the vv switch you are working on to where it will be regulated at the voltage it is set at?

 

[bstedh]

Regulation at that level with a PWM circuit is a very difficult thing to do and keep the cost down. There may be some engineers out there that may say hay that's child's play =] but not for all of us. With my VV I have never used a meter to see what it is set at. I just set it to where I like the vape and go. I think AttyPops may have called it the experience meter. In my opinion a way more accurate meter than any voltmeter. Anyway you would have to have an RMS meter to actually see what voltage you are using with PWM anyway so most people will have to rely on the experience meter. Like a lot of hardware out there you do not get an accurate reading unless you have an rms meter. I can't remember who or where it was posted but someone had shown that the standard 510 may give you a reading of 3.5V but because of the PWM scheme used in several you are actually only getting about 3.2V.

 

[fsroq]

Regulation at that level with a PWM circuit is a very difficult thing to do and keep the cost down. There may be some engineers out there that may say hay that's child's play =] but not for all of us. With my VV I have never used a meter to see what it is set at. I just set it to where I like the vape and go. I think AttyPops may have called it the experience meter. In my opinion a way more accurate meter than any voltmeter. Anyway you would have to have an RMS meter to actually see what voltage you are using with PWM anyway so most people will have to rely on the experience meter. Like a lot of hardware out there you do not get an accurate reading unless you have an rms meter. I can't remember who or where it was posted but someone had shown that the standard 510 may give you a reading of 3.5V but because of the PWM scheme used in several you are actually only getting about 3.2V.

Thats what I do, put it first roughly where I think it should be, and then putting it somewhat higher or lower. I,m not interested in volts, but in taste, TH.

Only if it is not performing well, I look with a voltage meter, only to know if the carto is performing in acordance with the voltage, or if I have to toss it.

 

[WillyB]

I think the main point is to keep it affordable however. For a lot of people a $110 mod is on the steep side and will keep many away.

HUH???? I ain't talking about copying the mod, I just explained how it works, and how folks are very happy with the performance.

Anytime there is a thread asking for 5V PV recommendations, the GLV2 is always mentioned and quite enthusiastically.

As long your tube can take a stack of 3.7V 16340's the whole '5V GLV2' approach consists of fitting a 1Ω power resistor in the switch housing... period. That's too expensive?



Oh well, so much for trying to help.

Good Luck.

 

[bstedh]

HUH???? I ain't talking about copying the mod, I just explained how it works, and how folks are very happy with the performance.

Anytime there is a thread asking for 5V PV recommendations, the GLV2 is always mentioned and quite enthusiastically.

As long your tube can take a stack of 3.7V 16340's the whole '5V GLV2' approach consists of fitting a 1Ω power resistor in the switch housing... period. That's too expensive?



Oh well, so much for trying to help.

Good Luck.

Sorry, I misunderstood what you where trying to convey.

 

[romaniac]

According to SmokTech the 5V switch for the 18650 NoEgo will be shipped to me Monday. We will see if is worth it or not.

 

[fsroq]

Will SmokTech also produce a VV module?

 

[romaniac]

At this point I am not sure of that . We are looking in specialized PCB manufacturers to produce it for us. I thing we may just get the housing from Smoktech. if we can work something out with SmokTech i will let you know. I ma really interested in Bstedh work. I trust him more then the rest at this point. I want him to succeed.

 

[fsroq]

Fair enough, thank You.

So Bsteddh, its up to You. Let us rock with Your all new VV module design.

¡Really appreciate what You are doing!

 

[jersully]

HUH???? I ain't talking about copying the mod, I just explained how it works, and how folks are very happy with the performance.

Anytime there is a thread asking for 5V PV recommendations, the GLV2 is always mentioned and quite enthusiastically.

As long your tube can take a stack of 3.7V 16340's the whole '5V GLV2' approach consists of fitting a 1Ω power resistor in the switch housing... period. That's too expensive?



Oh well, so much for trying to help.

Good Luck.

When you include a photo and a purchase link with pricing, it's pretty easy to misinterpret your meaning. When I re-read your post with my hand over that part it made much better sense. I misunderstood along with bstedh.

 

[Dalton63841]

HUH???? I ain't talking about copying the mod, I just explained how it works, and how folks are very happy with the performance.

Anytime there is a thread asking for 5V PV recommendations, the GLV2 is always mentioned and quite enthusiastically.

As long your tube can take a stack of 3.7V 16340's the whole '5V GLV2' approach consists of fitting a 1Ω power resistor in the switch housing... period. That's too expensive?



Oh well, so much for trying to help.

Good Luck.

The main thing that romaniac is going for is modularity. He wants for people who already own the first model, to only need to buy a switch. While your idea does prove elegant for a 5v device, I am led to believe the battery section would need to be lengthened, thereby eliminating that modularity.

 

[otrpu]

Just make a new tube and sell it to the early buyers for cost. Requires having an early buyer invoice number. JMHO

Cheers,
otrpu

 

[romaniac]

The main thing that romaniac is going for is modularity. He wants for people who already own the first model, to only need to buy a switch. While your idea does prove elegant for a 5v device, I am led to believe the battery section would need to be lengthened, thereby eliminating that modularity.

The tube of the 18650 NoEgo will fit two 18350 batteries. It was designed with that in mind.