I believe it has bungs to cover the hole. At least from what i seen on the fasttech website. Just little rubber stoppers.
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I believe it has bungs to cover the hole. At least from what i seen on the fasttech website. Just little rubber stoppers.
Somebody just turned me onto this link: 2014 Wholesale 1:1 Clone Orchid Atomizer Clone Orchid Rba Atomizer Rba Atomizer - Buy Orchid Atomizer Product on Alibaba.com
Is this what they would look like with the KF Nano kit at 1ml cap? So pretty! But looks like there's another version coming out...
Is this what they would look like with the KF Nano kit at 1ml cap? So pretty! But looks like there's another version coming out...
Those look very nice,now i cant wait until those come out,the spending never ends haha.Yes that is exactly what the nano kit looks like on it,except for that very cool top cap.My curiousity is getting the best of me now,so tommorow i will put the nano kit back on,and use a syringe to see exactly what the capacity will be with it on there,i am only guessing right now,judging by how close to the chimney it is,but i could be way off.I remembered tonight about a post someone made about bottom filling,so i tried that tonight,and that gives alot more capacity with the stock tank,so i will fill it that way with the nano kit on there to get a max fill in it,may turn out to be ok hopefully.By the way,i contacted tobeco and asked what plastic the tank is made from,and it is the poly carbonate.
Those fancy top caps are KF accessories as well, and do add a little to capacity (added height).
That sucks,i thought they would have screws,i will need to rethink getting one then.Thanks for the heads up on that.
Those fancy top caps are KF accessories as well, and do add a little to capacity (added height).
Cool,i didn't realize they had caps like that,so of course i had to go over to fasttech and find them haha.I'm going to order both sizes thursday when i get paid.
Also i need to correct myself on the above post,they dont look exactly like that with the nano kit,at least not the quartz nano,you can see the o rings on that.Here is how it looks,i took this the other day when i first tried it,like i said i will put it back on and get a true capacity with it tonight though.If it turns out to hold more than i think,then i will definitely change those o rings though,not to crazy about the red ones.
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Oh, you're right. Totally forgot about the o-rings. Must've been the regular nano kit, with polycarbonate, that they used. I'm definitely getting those top caps - never thought they'd make THAT much of a difference, aesthetically. Yours ^^ looks a lot better though. What's the capacity like?
Found this thread that is chock full of info - thought it might be helpful:
https://www.fasttech.com/forums/1815409/t/1358628/for-the-tobeco-orchid-clone
https://www.fasttech.com/forums/1815409/t/1358628/for-the-tobeco-orchid-clone
That link was a good read,and definitely some helpful info.As for the capacity on mine,i will find out later tonight,that picture was taken the other day,so as soon as i finish out the juice thats in it now,i will put the nano kit back on and find out for sure.
One thing i just realized,in that link someone says the shorter top cap wont work,but the taller one will.I'm not sure on that,because if you look at the listings for the short and standard ones,the short one has an o-ring to seal the chimney,which is what the orchid has,the taller standard cap looks like it is for a threaded chimney.Also i just realized that they say the reason the shorter one wont work is because the chimney sits to high for the drip tip,when i put that nano on the other day,the chimney stuck way up there,and my drip tip slid right over it.There are probably some tips that wont fit over it,but mine is a wide bore tip and fit just fine.Instead of ordering both caps,i think i am going to order the small cap,mainly because i like that drip tip that comes with it haha,plus that tip looks like a wide bore,so it should slide over the chimney just fine.
Don't worry,i didn't forget about ya,i'm working hard to finish this tank so i can do that nano fill test,it's taking longer than expected though,because i keep having to set it down and regain my composure due to the way this thing hits,plus it's wicked with rayon.I really need to lower my nic level now haha.
Don't worry,i didn't forget about ya,i'm working hard to finish this tank so i can do that nano fill test,it's taking longer than expected though,because i keep having to set it down and regain my composure due to the way this thing hits,plus it's wicked with rayon.I really need to lower my nic level now haha.
Wow, b.m., you're so awesome to go through all this trouble "for the name of science."
Take your time! 
That's what I read somewhere else too - all of the top caps will work, but with some of them, you have to use a wide-bored one so that the skinny stem part of the chimney will fit into the hole. Still hoping another manufacturer jumps in on the Orchid. That last link didn't pan out - seems that they're a trader, not another manufacturer, and not divulging any manufacturer's name, so it could be just any ole Orchid, which could be even worse than Tobeco.
OMG, rayon! You'll be nic'ed out for days!
Ok,just finished up the test.I filled both the stock tank and the nano from the bottom with a syringe to get the most accurate results.With the stock tank,i got 3ml in it,and could possibly fit another 1/2ml in it,but it would be tight,with the nano kit,1 1/2ml was really pushing it,that was all the way to the threads which would push juice out,probably through the air holes,so i did not even try screwing it together like that.So,to get a glass tank,the search will definitely continue,i will be happy if i can find glass that will work and give me at least a 2ml capacity,definitely dont want to go lower than that though.I wont know for sure until that top cap from fasttech is in my hands,but i'm wondering if it may make the full size glass work,i noticed where the chimney goes into that cap is dropped a bit in the center,which may give it just enough to reach the chimney.
Thanks for doing all of that, b.m. From what I've read, the enhanced top caps definitely add volume, so yeah, you'll probably make it to the 2ml...barely!
But yeah, 1 1/2 ml in a dual-coil tank...
It's still early on for this tank. Who knows, maybe aftermarket stuff will come, just like the KF stuff did.
But yeah, 1 1/2 ml in a dual-coil tank...
It's still early on for this tank. Who knows, maybe aftermarket stuff will come, just like the KF stuff did.
I ordered the top cap from FT so will let you know how it works for sure when I get it. If you look at the pictures, though, it has the piece with the rubber grommets plus a lid which has two holes through the metal that appears to screw on top of this piece. It looks like you unscrew the top piece enough to line up the grommet holes on the piece underneath and fill it, then screw back the top piece, which cinches against the grommets to keep it from leaking. Hopefully when it is screwed all the way in, the holes are offset, but if not, a thicker o-ring would probably solve that.
A regular size KF tank will not work since the chimney will likely not reach on a tank any taller than the existing one. The kit I have (Fasttech's Kayfun PMMA Short Nano Kit), is the same size tank as the orchid, so there is no loss or gain of capacity. It works better than the original parts since everything screws together more easily. You can get the nano kit in quartz from FT too, and I also have that on order and I assume it fits the same.
All in all, though, I should have passed on the $20 ebay clone orchid until at least v2 comes out. The screws falling out make it unusable in my opinion, and the lack of fill hole is a pita. The quality control is complete crap, and having brass internals covered by chrome that flakes off if you soak it overnight is unacceptable. Having to wick it exactly right to not leak yet not choke is a pita. Wait just a couple of months and there will be a well-made stainless steel quad channel atty with a 5ml pyrex tank and a fill hole plus good airflow for $25 that does not depend on the precise placement and amount of wick and is not gigantic like some tank attys,. I promise. I ordered a fogger v4.1 (one of the gigantic ones) to have until that time.
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Yeah,it seems like every few weeks a new one is coming out,so hopefully something like you mention will come in the near future.I have 2 foggers,a 4.0 and a 4.1,while i do like them,personally i like the orchid a whole lot better.As for the quartz nano from fasttech,that's the one i tested last night,it wont have the same capacity as the pmma kit,because the nano has those metal rings that have to set in for the glass to sit flush,so they come extremely close to the chimney,i barely got 1.5ml in it,and that was pushing it to the extreme.
b.m., that PMMA kit would probably do better with tank cracker liquids than the original polycarbonate would, as well as give you more capacity. I've decided to pass on this Tobeco version and wait for a better one. Thanks for your hard work!
No problem,this is all testing i would do anyway,i am trying to get the ultimate rba haha.I doubt you will have to wait too long for a better version,i figure this thing seems to be a really hot item right now,so i'm sure hcigar and probably infinite will be jumping in with one soon,and if they do,i will be grabbing one of those too,like i said i love my orchid haha.As for the pmma tank,i do have one of those on my kayfun,and i have heard that vanilla custard is a tank cracker,but it's been in there for several weeks and no problems with that tank,but until i find compatible glass that will fit and keep the frosted look,i am satisfied enough with the stock tank,as i have found a few very good juices i can use in it and not have to worry about cracking.I'm ordering another orchid tommorow,hopefully it will be as good as this one,being some people are having issues,if not it will definitely be the guinnea pig of all testing haha.
I just bought a syringe at target for $.35 and filled upside down and that worked great and filled it nicely! Im still working on my foggers as i just drilled the outside airhole to 5/64 and building it now but i have to say this orchid clone is my fav at the moment!!
**Edit- ok the fogger is doing great now but geesh if I have to drill the airholes, well Orchid is better as long as they fixed the poor screw issue they were having!! Go Orchid!!
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Yeah,it's a way better fill that way,and you can get the full capacity that way.
On another note,for those who want to get an orchid,but are scared off by the bad rap tobeco has been getting on these,focal just released another version,and it's only a bit over $16,not sure who makes it,but looking at pictures,it does not appear to be a tobeco version,i dont what the quality will be on those,but may be worth looking into.
Also on that note,i just received my 2nd tobeco orchid today,and i find it weird that so many people have had problems with these,as i have 2 now,both from different sellers,so i am assuming they are fromdifferent batches,and have no problems at all with either.My only guess is maybe the ones with screw problems were an early batch,because both that i have tighten down just fine.
On another note,for those who want to get an orchid,but are scared off by the bad rap tobeco has been getting on these,focal just released another version,and it's only a bit over $16,not sure who makes it,but looking at pictures,it does not appear to be a tobeco version,i dont what the quality will be on those,but may be worth looking into.
Also on that note,i just received my 2nd tobeco orchid today,and i find it weird that so many people have had problems with these,as i have 2 now,both from different sellers,so i am assuming they are fromdifferent batches,and have no problems at all with either.My only guess is maybe the ones with screw problems were an early batch,because both that i have tighten down just fine.
I'm almost convinced, b.m.
The one at Focal has been very tempting. At least they have really good CS.
Somebody at the Focal thread just ordered one, and he'll be using it with a KF m-tank and the FT top cap with fill holes. I'll drop the pic here when he drops it there.
The one at Focal has been very tempting. At least they have really good CS.
Somebody at the Focal thread just ordered one, and he'll be using it with a KF m-tank and the FT top cap with fill holes. I'll drop the pic here when he drops it there.
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I'm tempted to get another from focal,that's how much i like these haha.Honestly though,i may get another from the seller i just recieved this one from since they are here in the U.S.,i like to get things fast when possible and i got it in 2 days,plus it was only a few dollars more than focal,mine was $18 and some change.Cindycated,this seller i got this from is close to where you are,mine came through the post office in San Francisco,it was shipped thursday evening and i got it today,so they could probably throw one and get it to you haha
On another note,i am in the works with another member here to get a solution for the glass tanks for these.They have the ability to cut the glass,so i'm going to pick up a few quartz kits from fasttech,and send them out to them to be cut down to the correct size.It will take about a month before all is said and done,since coming from fasttech,but if it all works out,this could be a good solution for those who want glass on their orchids.
On another note,i am in the works with another member here to get a solution for the glass tanks for these.They have the ability to cut the glass,so i'm going to pick up a few quartz kits from fasttech,and send them out to them to be cut down to the correct size.It will take about a month before all is said and done,since coming from fasttech,but if it all works out,this could be a good solution for those who want glass on their orchids.
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