The Overlooked Tootle Puffer Gear Thread

[roxynoodle]

ROFL.. and if you're a real drunk like me (how I WAS!), you'd have no idea who ordered it.

Andria

Lol! Hey I just sent someone a kayfun quartz tank, and he thanked me for the drip tip I included also. What drip tip?? I said, oh, that's a chimney. He takes a pic for me and sure enough, there's a drip tip, too. Not only do I swear I didn't put that in the package, I don't remember ever seeing this dt before And I wasn't drunk!

I may be getting senile.

Or one of my resident spooks did it.

 

[roxynoodle]

Ok,.Goblin Mini

This deck is bigger than it first looked. I'm not sure why people are complaining about it. You can use a 3mm coil on it. I did 8 wraps of 27g on a 2.5mm bit. I could have put 2-3 more wraps on it easily or used a larger diameter. What is small are the post holes and screw heads. Reading glasses required for us older folks.

Wicking seemed easy. I put a tiny bit of tail halfway down the channels and cut the shoulders to fit the curve of the deck.

The fill screw is very small and uses a straight screwdriver, not Phillips. So I had to go get one as I didn't have one in my juice cupboard.

Airflow shut down and single coil spacer thing was easy to put in. vaping nicely at 13.8W. So yes, it can tootle. The way the airflow works, it closes down under the coil. Pretty nifty because then you control the size of the hole under the coil.

 

[Boden]

Ok,.Goblin Mini

This deck is bigger than it first looked. I'm not sure why people are complaining about it. You can use a 3mm coil on it. I did 8 wraps of 27g on a 2.5mm bit. I could have put 2-3 more wraps on it easily or used a larger diameter. What is small are the post holes and screw heads. Reading glasses required for us older folks.

Wicking seemed easy. I put a tiny bit of tail halfway down the channels and cut the shoulders to fit the curve of the deck.

The fill screw is very small and uses a straight screwdriver, not Phillips. So I had to go get one as I didn't have one in my juice cupboard.

Airflow shut down and single coil spacer thing was easy to put in. Vaping nicely at 13.8W. So yes, it can tootle. The way the airflow works, it closes down under the coil. Pretty nifty because then you control the size of the hole under the coil.

My only concern is leaking as the air port is flush with the flood deck. Any issues so far? And what PG/VG ratio are you using?

I'll be using 66/33

 

[roxynoodle]

My only concern is leaking as the air port is flush with the flood deck. Any issues so far? And what PG/VG ratio are you using?

I'll be using 66/33

So far no leaking. I should have taken a pic of the build I guess, but it has big, fluffy shoulders.

The juice in it is 30pg/70vg I think. I tend to use 50/50 up to 70vg. As I get into diy I will probably go with all 50/50 as high vg can bother my asthma. I can't really handle more tham 70.

 

[Boden]

So far no leaking. I should have taken a pic of the build I guess, but it has big, fluffy shoulders.

The juice in it is 30pg/70vg I think. I tend to use 50/50 up to 70vg. As I get into diy I will probably go with all 50/50 as high vg can bother my asthma. I can't really handle more tham 70.

I made a batch of 50/50 that was too chest heavy for me. I exercise too much to use VG at higher than 40%. I like the idea of a shorty tank, maybe I'll make an insert that fits in the air ports to raise them above the flood deck.

If anyone is wondering what I am referring to as the flood deck this should help.

This is a build deck

When you take a puff juice is pulled up this channel

and floods this lower deck.

Once suction stops the juice is pulled back down the channel by the negative pressure in the tank and some air is pulled down the channel into the tank resetting the equilibrium.

With a design like this that doesn't really have a build deck

When juice is pulled up the air/juice channels it could easily leak down the air port as it is flush with the flood deck.

 

[roxynoodle]

Yep, the more wick you can get with a deck like the G. Mini, the better off you'll be to not flood. Bigger coil means more wick. And you need to be sure your wick isn't in or touching that air slot under the coil or it will drip juice down in there.

 

[TrollDragon]

Those are the default Orchid style decks of today and the two I have are the Aqua II and Silverplay. Neither of them will leak as long as you leave a shoulder of wick on the top of the juice channel with a little thinned out tail going into the channel.

Here is something to up your wicking game on, The Youde Zephyrus.

If you can wick a Zephyrus with it's 4 x 3mm air holes without it leaking... Wicking up the Goblin Mini would be like wicking an FeV, dead simple.

 

[Oregon Linda]

Got another Rose question. Roxy, I just skimmed back through the Rose thread and see that you have the same clone I do from Ecloud Vape. You mentioned in that thread having a problem with a tight juice flow control. But I couldn't find anyone with an answer to how to fix that. I have the same problem. I've changed the o-ring - mine also came torn - and juiced it up, but that didn't seem to help. Did you ever get that problem resolved on yours?

 

[roxynoodle]

Got another Rose question. Roxy, I just skimmed back through the Rose thread and see that you have the same clone I do from Ecloud Vape. You mentioned in that thread having a problem with a tight juice flow control. But I couldn't find anyone with an answer to how to fix that. I have the same problem. I've changed the o-ring - mine also came torn - and juiced it up, but that didn't seem to help. Did you ever get that problem resolved on yours?

It solved itself after a couple of weeks. Like it just needed some break in time. My authentic is harder to turn than the clones are now. The crunchy threads also broke in.

No matter what I do with my Cthulhu though that afc ring is a bear to turn. I feel like the Hulk to do it for me.

 

[Oregon Linda]

It solved itself after a couple of weeks. Like it just needed some break in time. My authentic is harder to turn than the clones are now. The crunchy threads also broke in.

No matter what I do with my Cthulhu though that afc ring is a bear to turn. I feel like the Hulk to do it for me.

I guess I'll just have to break it in really good then! Even though the build deck isn't the easiest to work on, the vape is so incredible that I just have to get myself a second one. I just found the Tobeco clone for $9.95, so I think I'm going to jump on it.

 

[TrollDragon]

I guess I'll just have to break it in really good then! Even though the build deck isn't the easiest to work on, the vape is so incredible that I just have to get myself a second one. I just found the Tobeco clone for $9.95, so I think I'm going to jump on it.

Both of mine are Tobeco and excellent quality, grab it up pronto!

 

[roxynoodle]

@Boden my G. Mini started to get a little gurgly tonight. Weird it took like 20 hours, but it did. So I put more tail in the channels. If you're going with the higher pg I think I would put a thicker and longer tail on your wicks. A 3mm coil might be the way to go to have a good tail and thick shoulders. That's what I would do.

 

[David Wolf]

I've seen quite a few posts recently that nothing new is coming out for Tootle Puffers. This isn't true, folks! You just sometimes have to look a little harder . I'm always on the search for great attys living in obsurity. And many I've found would make our low wattage, mouth to lung vapers very happy.

I think almost everyone is aware of the Kayfuns, Taifuns and Erlkonigin by now. All well known Tootle gear.

I would like to tell you about the ones you may not be aware of. And hope others will contribute as well. Some are expensive and some are bargains. Some of the expensive ones do have clones. I'm not interested in a debate; just providing you information, and you may decide for yourself how you might spend your money. I hope negative posts can be kept to a minimum.

Gus Mods-Greece
Phenomenons. There are a few variations now or you can build your own from the parts catalogue. Prices range from approximately $85-130. Fantastic, compact flavor RTA. Easy to coil and wick even for newbies.

Aiolos tank or Steam Machine. Small enough to be used on an ego battery at 16mm. There is also a dripper version. Depending on version,.$45+

Estia. This tank uses 3 coils so for more adventurous Tootlers. Yes, you will end up subohm, but its a m2l flavor tank, not a cloud chaser. $120+ depending on options.

Titanium Mods-Ukraine
Ataman II. Easy build, juice control so no dry hits or flooding, tight draw, excellent flavor. $120+ depending on options.

Prometey. They are on v3 now, but you can always hunt for used v1 or v2 versions. Anyone can build this tank and it won't leak unless you overfill it due to using fluff to hold the juice.

Achilles RDA. This one is hard to find outside of clones.

Youde (UD). They are really establishing themselves for the cloud chaser RTA segment right now, but some of their older stuff is perfect for tootling. China

Aga t5. Basically the same deck as the Ataman II. Easy build, well made, great flavor and easy on the wallet! Check Triangle Vape to get this for $10.

Aga t7. Dual coil, but mouth to lung flavor tank. I love it, but the build is for the more experienced or determined vaper. Also $10 at Triangle Vape.

Various drippers that can often be found for less than $10 these days.

HCigar-China. They've been known for clones, but have some authentics that are worth checking out.

HC Plus. Very well made, great flavor and perfect for tootling. Not easy to find in the US, but Canadian and European members are in luck. I bought it from Health Cabin, but Froginfog has it for $20.

HC atty. Very Kayfun like but has a glass tank with a SS sleeve to help protect it. $37 at Vapenw

EHPro-China. Also was known for their clones, but from looking at their website now I believe they may be transitioning to authentics. They sure have a lot now.

Mini Buddha, aka Big Buddha Mini. 18mm so can be used on an ego. Great little flavor tank. It looks nice on an istick, too. Comes in silver, red, black, and wait for it, ladies...purple! $22-24 at Vividsmoke.

Epoch d1. This is dual coil, but geared for mouth to lung and flavor. $30.

Focusecig-China. I have quite a few of their attys now. They are definitely focused on flavor and mouth to lung.

Skyfall. The squonkable tank for everyone. I'm testing this now, and love it. It can be a single coil tootler, a middle range womper or can fit big twisted or Claptons. And turns every mod into a squonker

Hobbit RDA. This little guy is a tootler's dream. 17mm so can fit on an ego.

Focloud. Single or dual, internal juice control, mouth to lung. Like a Magma with a tank on top.

Sniper RDA. Deck is very similar to the Aga t7, but can be single or dual. And being a dripper, wicking is not really a concern like it is on the Aga t7.

Two Winds RDA. Single or dual, its the dripper form of the Focloud.

Vapenaute-France

Le Magister. Single or dual. They call it an RTA, but it could be a dripper that holds like 2.5ml.

AmerPoint-USA?

Nectar. There is an RTA version and RDA version. This is so easy to build, and has amazing flavor.

Nice list, thanks. Do any of those come with stock coils, or are they all require building coils? I think that's what most of us saying the new tanks coming out with stock coils are geared toward subohming, my kangertech subtank mini is a good example of that. I want a reliable tootle puffer tank with stock coils over 1 ohm with good flavor at 8 to 12W to grab and go. So far the nautilus mini and the GS airs are all I've found that are in that category. I have a kayfun lite on order to play with rebuilding on the side

 

[David Wolf]

HoH Kabuki.

Definitely on my radar!

 

[roxynoodle]

Definitely on my radar!

I was going to suggest that based on the feedback I've seen.

Aspire Triton with 1.8 ohm coils according to Mr. Busardo.

I haven't really checked it out yet, but I think the new Aqua FX will have a factory coil option.

I admit I gave up on factory coils over a year ago, but I understand more now that they're important for many folks so I'll pay more attention to that.

 

[roxynoodle]

I'm going to post this here for people who want factory coils, and you can lurk in the thread as more info becomes available. And ask questions. There are 2 videos and the second one shows you how you can rewick the factory coils and/or rebuild them to the resistance you want. So no actual RBA deck, but you can rebuild the coil heads and/or extend their life through rewicking. It uses a vertical coil that you wrap on the outside (basically its like a carto). Someone posted the stock coil is 0.44 ohm so stock, its a mod womper. It does sound like you can use a standard drip tip and make coils of the resistance you prefer.

It might be a good stepping stone into rebuilding though as the wicking looks simple. Just wrap a piece of cotton around the coil and pop it back into the housing. Probably a lot less prone to leaking/dry hits than traditional RTAs as far as wicking goes. It also looked pretty easy to get your own coil installed. Obviously its more involved than changing a coil head on a Protank or Nautilus though if you don't want to use the factory 0.44 ohm coils. However, it looks a lot simpler than rebuilding Kanger or Aspire coils, and hey, we have senior citizens here who can rebuild their Protank coils . At least these coils and heads are bigger so easier to see and handle I think.

Not a lot of info here yet, but maybe some of the reviewers have checked it out, too, now and you can find more info. Not sure I'll get one as I'm trying to slow down on obtaining more attys at this time. I did preorder the UD Bellus though. $18 + $4 shipping from the US Warehouse of Efun Top. Looks like the Aqua FX will be about $50. Not sure on the coil heads. $50 might sound like a lot, but its really not for a Footoon product, which are all very well made.

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...ead-tank-and-rta-top-fill-3ml-and-5ml.694791/

 

[David Wolf]

I was going to suggest that based on the feedback I've seen.

Aspire Triton with 1.8 ohm coils according to Mr. Busardo.

I haven't really checked it out yet, but I think the new Aqua FX will have a factory coil option.

I admit I gave up on factory coils over a year ago, but I understand more now that they're important for many folks so I'll pay more attention to that.

I really do appreciate your efforts Roxy! You're a wealth of knowledge on tanks and attys

 

[TrollDragon]

I really do appreciate your efforts Roxy! You're a wealth of knowledge on tanks and attys

^^ This!

 

[tj99959]

Damn, I haven't had to build nuttin', fiddle with nuttin', tweak nottin' for weeks & weeks! I think I need to buy me sumptin' that doesn't work. So that I can be part of the crowd.

 

[roxynoodle]

Damn, I haven't had to build nuttin', fiddle with nuttin', tweak nottin' for weeks & weeks! I think I need to buy me sumptin' that doesn't work. So that I can be part of the crowd.

I would rather you bought something that does work