The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

[lolhahaha]

You won't, not if you stay on this thread for any length of time. Don't ask me how I know.

Welcome

not just this thread. After buying a ton of mostly what could be called "overpriced" juice, I saw the link to Bluemist having their 180ml bottles on sale for 25 a pop and ordered 4 of them. Now I'm really set for a while, haha. Not their RY4 so I won't be reviewing that here. I thought it had to be junk but there are hundreds of reviews of their caramel tobacco, cherry vanilla swirl, banana foster, etc. 1 of those bottles could last me 6 months and I have 4 on top of the 2 years worth already on hand.

I'm going to have to boycott ECF soon...

 

[lettucehead]

On the other hand, CopperCreek makes my #1 favorite coffee eliquid of all time---CC Coffee---which wins by a nose in my book over BWB Espresso. That's no small achievement, given how lousy so many coffee vapes are.

I remember you talking about trying The Plume Room's tobaccos, but did you ever have an opportunity to try their coffees?

Yummmmmmmmmm...

I agree, most coffee vapes are not very good at all, but The Plume Room coffee's are wonderfully done.

 

[billherbst]

I remember you talking about trying The Plume Room's tobaccos, but did you ever have an opportunity to try their coffees?

Yummmmmmmmmm...

I agree, most coffee vapes are not very good at all, but The Plume Room coffee's are wonderfully done.

lettucehead,

Yes, I picked up a bottle of TPR Ultimate Expresso from Andrea. To my palate, it's in the upper echelon of coffee liquids, but it doesn't challenge either of my favorites (CC Coffee and BWB Espresso) for the top spot. Nothing gets close to those two for me. I haven't tried the coffee offerings from Heather's Heavenly Vapes, however. I read that they're very good.

The problem for me is that, having found two that I love so much, I'm not particularly motivated to keep searching. As long as I have stock of my Top 2 faves, I'm a happy coffee vaper.

Glad to hear that you love Ultimate Espresso. Win-win for you and Andrea.

 

[Jim Bob]

Bill, I've never had an issue of getting Twisted or Voodoo , though I don't order it all that often of late, after doing some really good DIY RY4 (to my tastes at least LOL) when (if) I ever get the "extra motivation" (and time) I think Captain Black flavoring has real potential for a unique and possibly good to great RY4 (custom ) it's quite "aromatic" like the pipe tobacco, the "right blending" could be awesome (or not so much ) LOL

 

[billherbst]

Bill, I've never had an issue of getting Twisted or Voodoo , though I don't order it all that often of late, after doing some really good DIY RY4 (to my tastes at least LOL) when (if) I ever get the "extra motivation" (and time) I think Captain Black flavoring has real potential for a unique and possibly good to great RY4 (custom ) it's quite "aromatic" like the pipe tobacco, the "right blending" could be awesome (or not so much ) LOL

JB,

Captain Black is a sort of spicy, vanilla pipe tobacco flavor, right? Retail juices with that flavor are sold under various names---Captain Black (dekang), Captain Jack, Skipper Black, etc. I have a huge 180ml bottle of Rob's BlackJack from Bluemist that is OK, in my opinion, but not better than just OK. Maybe I could whip up an RY4 Frankenjuice from that.

The only vendor I know that sells Captain Black flavoring is Seedman's, which is used in diy but not formulated for that purpose (it's made to spray on the leaves of growing tobacco plants and sold either as concentrate or pre-diluted; only the concentrate works for diy).

I do have some Black and Mild flavoring from Tobacco Express (a Chinese line of super-concentrated flavors sold by EcigExpress), which I'm guessing might be similar. I could try that for a true diy RY4.

For me, any tobacco flavor is fair game for RY4 experiments, from tobacco varietals (Turkish, Burley, Virginia, etc., either singly or in combination) to the many aromatic tobacco specialty flavors, one of which is Captain Black, I assume.

 

[scarf-ace]

I remember you talking about trying The Plume Room's tobaccos, but did you ever have an opportunity to try their coffees?

Yummmmmmmmmm...

I agree, most coffee vapes are not very good at all, but The Plume Room coffee's are wonderfully done.

Lettucehead, I urge you to try Want2Vape's Campfire Coffee and Creamy Expresso. They are really excellent coffees. Campfire Coffee might even have a bit of a tobacco base to it. (just my opinion)

I just spent my disposable income for the week on a HHV order but next on my list is definitely TPR. I am thinking of getting Burley & Candy, Candied Cavendish, Marlboro, the infamous Honey Fig Tobacco, Toasted Turkish Twist (because I am a total sucker for anything containing the word "toasted" LOL) and Vanilla Caramel Frappuccino. I am debating on whether to add Blueberries and Cream to the list....have you tried it?

 

[Jim Bob]

I can't really describe the flavor, if you have smoked the pipe tobacco you know, it's nothing even close to Rob's blackjack to my palate . I bought the flavoring from either Wizard Labs or TFA (sorry don't recall which but am sure it' s one or the other)

 

[lettucehead]

I am thinking of getting Burley & Candy, Candied Cavendish, Marlboro, the infamous Honey Fig Tobacco, Toasted Turkish Twist (because I am a total sucker for anything containing the word "toasted" LOL) and Vanilla Caramel Frappuccino. I am debating on whether to add Blueberries and Cream to the list....have you tried it?

I out of your list above, I have only tried the Honey Fig Tobacco (which I posted a review of in this thread before), the Toasted Turkish Twist, and the Vanilla Caramel Frappuccino.
They were all excellent.

Here's what I wrote about the Toasted Turkish Twist -
Tested at 18mg on a bottom coil Phoenix 2.6-2.8, Variable Volt tube device at 4.4
Significantly thick liquid, but wicks OK although a little slow in the CE3 BC.

Initial –
Deep true tobacco.
Very slight sweetness on the exhale. Deep earthy layers. Mild spice. Very very rich.
I would say this is juice is the closest I’ve gotten to a real analog taste, but my analogs were never this rich tasting.
This vapor was meant to be rolled around in your mouth and savored.
This is not a chain-vapers vape - It’s too rich, too luxurious.
This is a vape to have in front of a crackling fire with a snifter of brandy in your other hand.


The Vanilla Caramel Frappuccino is a rich creamy coffee dessert type vape.
Decadent.
Love this after dinner.
May be too sweet for the morning - I prefer her Ultimate Expresso (or even often a mix of the Expresso and Frappuccino) in the AM.
Vanilla Caramel Frappuccino has rich layers of vanilla, caramel, and coffee.
Somewhat too thick to wick great (although adequately) in a CE3 BC, although Andrea will thin the liquid if requested.
Very nice dessert coffee...


Great choices you're making there!
I think you'll enjoy - A LOT!

 

[billherbst]

I can't really describe the flavor, if you have smoked the pipe tobacco you know, it's nothing even close to Rob's blackjack to my palate . I bought the flavoring from either Wizard Labs or TFA (sorry don't recall which but am sure it' s one or the other)

JB,

TPA/TFA doesn't offer a Captain Black, but I checked Wizard Labs, and yes, they do. It's the Seedman's flavor concentrate, about which there seems to be some debate. Seedman offered it for a long time, then stopped, then offered a new formulation. Some people feel that the new one is nothing like the original; other folks disagree. I haven't tried either, so I have no dog in that fight.

Not too surprising that bluemist's Rob's BlackJack isn't like seedman's Captain Black. Most of what i've tried from bluemist is---how shall I say?---not typical or as expected. Interesting, sometimes, but always odd. Despite making juices for sale to the public, Rob at bluemist seems to have quite an unusual palate. How's that for diplomacy?

 

[judy j]

My first RY4 to try came from Vixen Vapors. It was their Daily Deal for 6.99 a few days ago. I was really surprised that I like it. I ordered it because of so many poster on ECF like Ry4. It appears to me every RY4 from different vendor are different. I will be trying more RY4s' just to check out theirs flavors.

 

[Roxxette]

Just watched Busardo review about vapor....., Our-y4 sure is unique if he "liked" it check it put guys maybe the other flavors he describe interest any of you, to Bill and the rest if you havent try Dark & Mellow i suggestyou give it a go.

 

[scarf-ace]

I out of your list above, I have only tried the Honey Fig Tobacco (which I posted a review of in this thread before), the Toasted Turkish Twist, and the Vanilla Caramel Frappuccino.
They were all excellent.

Here's what I wrote about the Toasted Turkish Twist -
Tested at 18mg on a bottom coil Phoenix 2.6-2.8, Variable Volt tube device at 4.4
Significantly thick liquid, but wicks OK although a little slow in the CE3 BC.

Initial –
Deep true tobacco.
Very slight sweetness on the exhale. Deep earthy layers. Mild spice. Very very rich.
I would say this is juice is the closest I’ve gotten to a real analog taste, but my analogs were never this rich tasting.
This vapor was meant to be rolled around in your mouth and savored.
This is not a chain-vapers vape - It’s too rich, too luxurious.
This is a vape to have in front of a crackling fire with a snifter of brandy in your other hand.


The Vanilla Caramel Frappuccino is a rich creamy coffee dessert type vape.
Decadent.
Love this after dinner.
May be too sweet for the morning - I prefer her Ultimate Expresso (or even often a mix of the Expresso and Frappuccino) in the AM.
Vanilla Caramel Frappuccino has rich layers of vanilla, caramel, and coffee.
Somewhat too thick to wick great (although adequately) in a CE3 BC, although Andrea will thin the liquid if requested.
Very nice dessert coffee...


Great choices you're making there!
I think you'll enjoy - A LOT!

Thank you for your vote of confidence. Great review of TTT...I haven't got any brandy but I have got lots of port, muscat, tokay and botrytis semillon. (Many years ago Mr Scarf-Ace and I went on a wine-tasting tour of the Barossa Valley in South Australia. We came back enamored of the "sticky" wines, and for every birthday, Easter, and Christmas thereafter every member of his family gave me a bottle of something until I begged them to stop because I'd amassed more than I could drink in a decade.)

And I appreciate that the Vanilla Caramel Frappuccino is, as the name implies, a repro of one of those six-dollar, thousand-calorie sugar bombs from the coffee bars that I ADORE but cannot drink too often. The two coffees I recommeded to you are decidedly NOT...those are straight-up black dark coffees. Until now my fave sweet coffee has been Cauldron's Wizard's Brew, but that has left the realm of drinks and become a mocha cheesecake. (Not that I mind that, not at all LOL)

By the way, congrats on your own flavour at AiV! I am also a sucker for literary references

 

[passerbyeus]

Well its good he admitted that his experience is low not like us pros on the roundup hahaha becuz VB
Our-y4 is close to an China authentic RY4 as you can get but he did say something like that ....so I will give it my own SHOUT- OUT....... OuR-Y4 - Vapor......com is the bomb diggity WORD.....



Wish I could get some
Vapor Talk Dulcis but out of stock and they never have low nic for me anyways......anyone got a good replacement for it? I like the flavor profile of it not to sharp with some sweetness....I cant do Esmoke4Life becuz they only have 24mg and Taboo is not sweet enough

Just watched Busardo review about vapor....., Our-y4 sure is unique if he "liked" it check it put guys maybe the other flavors he describe interest any of you, to Bill and the rest if you havent try Dark & Mellow i suggestyou give it a go.

 

[billherbst]

Well its good he admitted that his experience is low not like us pros on the roundup hahaha becuz VB
Our-y4 is close to an China authentic RY4 as you can get but he did say something like that ....so I will give it my own SHOUT- OUT....... OuR-Y4 - Vapor......com is the bomb diggity WORD.....

Wish I could get some Vapor Talk Dulcis but out of stock and they never have low nic for me anyways......anyone got a good replacement for it? I like the flavor profile of it not to sharp with some sweetness....I cant do Esmoke4Life becuz they only have 24mg and Taboo is not sweet enough

passer,

Yes, I agree. Vapor..... OuR-Y4 is fantastic. Definitely very high on my Top 10. One of the few RY4s I vape often.

Regarding a substitute for Dulcis. If Riskee Yuice is too high nic and Taboo is not sweet enough, you might try Elixir RY4. Might not do it for you (since Dulcis is so darned good!), but it's worth suggesting if you hadn't thought of it.

link: Elixir RY4

 

[lettucehead]

OK, actually just got my first bottle of Halo's Tribeca.

Do I need to open it to let it steep, or can it steep in a sealed bottle?
And, did Bill say 3-4 weeks is an adequate time for Halo to steep or am I just making things up from memory?



I'm looking forward to trying it!

 

[scarf-ace]

Lettuce, I think On Target and our Maestro will back me up when I say that the answer to "how long should Tribeca steep?" is
AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.

I opened it to sniff it and filled a carto. The little card in the parcel actually tells you to open it first.

 

[Jim Bob]

Bill,

I'd never tried it before my last "large" DIY order (from both WL and TFA) so I cannot comment on the change. (which is why I wasn't sure which place I did order it from LOL) I can say it is amazing if you like " aromatic vanilla+ tobacco" (pipe blends) or even like smelling them I'd assume you might like it???? It is (to me) pretty strong but I am still experimenting with % and what it may really enhance flavor wise, might be worth seeing what you think?

 

[scarf-ace]

My first RY4 to try came from Vixen Vapors. It was their Daily Deal for 6.99 a few days ago. I was really surprised that I like it. I ordered it because of so many poster on ECF like Ry4. It appears to me every RY4 from different vendor are different. I will be trying more RY4s' just to check out theirs flavors.

Judy J, I am glad you like Vixen's RY4! I myself do not since I detect a licorice/anise flavour to it that hasn't gone away despite months of steeping. More for you, I expect

 

[billherbst]

OK, actually just got my first bottle of Halo's Tribeca. Do I need to open it to let it steep, or can it steep in a sealed bottle? And, did Bill say 3-4 weeks is an adequate time for Halo to steep or am I just making things up from memory?

Given everything---Halo's possible formula changes, flavor subjectivity, etc.---I don't feel qualified to play authority with this question. I will, however, share my anecdotal personal experience:

I've had a new 7ml sample bottle of Tribeca steeping closed (and never opened) for about a month now. After reading your post, I opened it and atty-dripped a bit. Mine seems not quite ready---there's still perceptible evidence of the "purity" base, which isn't dreadful, but still present. Even so, it's vapeable and pretty tasty. My expectation is that my Tribeca will continue to improve with longer steeping, although 7ml may last long enough to get in four or five months' steeping. For all I know, I might vape it entirely over the next month, ready or not.

What I plan to do with my 7ml sample from today on is to steep it with the bottle open and the drip cap removed (which will, I hope, accelerate the steeping base-dissipation and flavor-melding, making it more and more yummy with each succeeding month).

 

[billherbst]

My first RY4 to try came from Vixen Vapors. It was their Daily Deal for 6.99 a few days ago. I was really surprised that I like it. I ordered it because of so many poster on ECF like Ry4. It appears to me every RY4 from different vendor are different. I will be trying more RY4s' just to check out theirs flavors.

judy j,

Seeing scarfy's response to your post, I got out my carto of Vixen RY4 and gave it a go. Ah yes, memory returns. This juice is now 15 months old, so it may be getting a bit long in the tooth and does taste a little flat to me. I also detect a flavor in the overall profile that I find distracting, although I can't identify which flavoring it's coming from.

The B- grade I gave it (in August, as I recall) still applies for me today. It's OK, but not special to my palate. Your new Vixen RY4 may be more alive than mine, since it's much younger---and therefore better. With notable exceptions (such as Tribeca), most RY4s are more akin to beaujolais rather than claret. Younger is preferable (and tastier).