specs: All three RY4s detailed in this review were purchased by me from JantyWorldUSA. The color of the liquids is a similar golden-caramel transparency, at 18mg nic strength, in various PG/VG blends. All three have very slight noses, with little scent to indicate the abundance of vaping flavor. Testing was done by loading the juices into 2.8 ohm Boge SR cartos powered by variable-power APVs (Vamo, Kicked Bolt, Kicked Omega) set to 9 watts RMS.
As we’ve learned on this thread through research and revelation, Janty created RY4 in 2007 and marketed the first and original RY4 (which, if we are to believe recent statements by Ludo, one of Janty’s owners and a co-creator of RY4, is the version currently marketed under the new ‘DK Line’ of Janty liquids). Over the years, however, Janty has tweaked the recipe formula and base blends of RY4, so that in the past one couldn’t be totally certain which Janty variation one had. That confusion has ended. Ludo recently provided vapers with a brief, de facto guide to Janty’s RY4 variations.
Initially, Janty sold liquids without any group designation. They were all simply Janty E-Liquids. At some point in 2010, Janty reformulated its liquids and subdivided them into two lines or series:
Classic and
Elixir. The
Elixir Series was further subdivided into PG or VG base blends, either 65/35 PG/VG (the PG blend) or 35/65 PG/VG (the VG blend). Flavors were adjusted to match these new base blends. (For the record, I don’t know what base blend Janty started with and has continued with the
Classic Series. I’d guess that it might be 80/20 PG/VG, but I don’t really know).
In early 2012, Janty came out with another new group, called the
Vitaya Series. This Series of Janty liquids has a milder overall taste, but lots of vapor and smooth flavor. Somewhere about mid-year in 2012, Janty introduced their
DK Series, which are a replication of the liquids Janty sold from 2007-2009. I presume that DK stands for Dekang, and my guess is that Dekang manufactured Janty's juices (to Janty's specs, of course) during that 2007-2009 period. Many Janty juices, including RY4, have versions in each series.
What does this mean for Janty RY4s? Here’s the breakdown:
• Janty RY4 (DK Series) is the original RY4, the first version ever marketed, the same one sold from 2007-2009.
• Janty RY4 (Classic Series) is a re-run and continuation of the RY4 sold by Janty in 2010-2011 under the Classic designation (This is the version that people liked best, according to Ludo, who used the term “raved about”)
• Janty RY4 (Elixir Series), begun in 2010, has more flavor than Classic
• Janty RY4 (Vitaya Series), started in 2012, is milder (meaning smoother flavors and overall taste) with better vapor production
• Janty RY4-X (Classic Series), is the same as Janty RY4 Classic, but with a stronger, slightly more assertive tobacco element
Every Janty RY4 is made in China by major Chinese juice manufacturers to Janty’s precise specifications. All of them should be considered classic RY4s (rather than custom), because they are all bright and well-balanced (even RY4 Elixir, which is slightly caramel-rich). In a very real sense, Janty defines what a classic RY4 is, because every other Chinese RY4 (Dekang, Hangsen, etc.) uses Janty’s basic ingredients and overall flavor as a template and jumping-off point. Janty and Dekang are the reference standards for RY4s.
I've never vaped Janty RY4 from the Classic Series. My initial experience with Janty RY4 was a 3ml sample bottle of Janty Elixir RY4 that ECF member
wv2win sent me in the summer of 2011. I based my initial review of Janty RY4 on that sample in post
#135 of this thread. I used up that small bottle quickly and soon after purchased larger bottles of Janty RY4 Elixir in both PG and VG blend versions, which were effectively identical. All subsequent rankings have been based on those Elixir blends.
Two weeks ago, when I wanted to order RY4 Classic, Janty was out of stock, so I settled for bottles of RY4-X Classic Series and RY4 DK Series instead. So, what I have today are three Boge cartos loaded with Janty RY4 Elixir, Janty RY4 DK, and Janty RY4-X Classic.
First off, are the flavor profiles and recipe mixes of these three Janty versions of RY4 noticeably different? In other words, can I (and, presumably, could you) really taste an appreciable difference?
Yes. They are obviously different---related, but not identical.
Janty RY4 (DK Series) (presumably the original, first-ever formulation of RY4) is the oddest of the trio. Curiously enough, however, it is also my favorite of the three. There is a flavor element in this RY4 that my brain wants to call “lemon-y.” Do I think that lemon flavor is an ingredient in the original RY4? No, I don’t. My brain is just reaching for something it already knows to make a mystery flavor more comfortable for me. What I want to call "citrus" is probably a neutral sourness laced with other flavors. I first tried RY4 DK by atty-dripping and didn’t like it much. But loaded into a carto, the flavors bloomed and merged deliciously. The balance alone was extraordinary, with individual flavors dancing around a unified core, popping up for a moment, then receding to allow other tasty surprises to spin off.
Janty RY4 (Elixir Series) changes the mix, bringing caramel to the front. Interestingly, the other flavors aren’t diminished, there’s just more caramel than in DK. That’s what makes Elixir what it is---the flavors are kicked up, slightly intensified, and given a bit more depth. Elixir also adds a more obvious sweet-sour counterbalance (with the sourness being more neutral). This counterbalancing of sweet and sour is present but masked in the DK version, where the sourness poses as a lemon-y citrus element. In terms of overall flavor, Elixir RY4 is the all-you-can-eat Janty version, while DK is the gourmet version with smaller portions.
Janty RY4-X (Classic Series) is somewhere between the other two versions, DK and Elixir. It’s supposed to be RY4 Classic with more tobacco bite and presence, but, never having vaped RY4 Classic, I can't comment on that. RY4-X has more of the DK citrus-y feel, rather than the straighter sour-sweet of Elixir. Is the tobacco element stronger in RY4-X than in the other two? I really can’t tell for sure. Maybe. In all three, the tobacco element is bright, but I think the kick is provided more by the nicotine than by the tobacco
per se.
What distinguishes these three RY4s from the vast majority of other vendors’ RY4s and gives them their family resemblance is the brightness, the balance of flavors, and the sour/citrus counterbalancing of the natural sweetness. For eliquids made entirely with synthetic flavorings, these juices are almost miraculously natural-tasting. All three are superlative RY4s.
Janty RY4 DK, RY4 Elixir, and RY4-X Classic all get
‘A’ grades from me. They are simply superb, and---taken together---are responsible in large part for giving RY4 its almost mythic popularity. Those who lean toward the deeper, often darker (in flavor or color), and sometimes nutty flavor profiles of custom RY4s may not adore the classic profile of Janty RY4s, but every RY4 lover should try at least one of the Janty versions, if only to taste the origins of this juice blend called RY4 that we appreciate so much.
Link to purchase:
JantyUSA E-Liquids