The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

[Steep]

So I tried the 1.8ohm coil in the mini vivi novam and the flavor of the TW RY4 is definitely better. Still seems fairly mild to me, but much more worth while at the lower resistance. Before at 2.4 I could hardly taste it. So thanks for the tip cause I'm a noob and was gonna try the 3ohm first lol.

 

[thehangdude]

3.0 ohm needs about 5 volts for best results. If you don't have a variable voltage device, now might be a good time for a letter to Santa. VV lets you really dial in the flavor.

 

[passerbyeus]

The rebuildable attys are ok for me, to test juices it does save you money in the long run but at the end of the day it is still a atty to me...and I am the type where I hate to play with things to make it work I just want to vape and go, so rebuilding them does not take long it just bugs me but ill do it since I have spent to much money on regular attys that blow on me...


I think TW RY4 has much flavor, did you just stop using analogs? That may be it and if you want a strong flavor get RY4 from the Vapor Pro lol I mjoking that crap sucks, I think every RY4 I vape has good flavor but maybe Jammin is the lightest for me,, there are vendors out there that let you double the flavor, I think EC Blends do it and Kick Bass Vapor since your taste buds may be still a little burnt...and yup a VV device will more then likly take you to vaping heaven

So I tried the 1.8ohm coil in the mini vivi novam and the flavor of the TW RY4 is definitely better. Still seems fairly mild to me, but much more worth while at the lower resistance. Before at 2.4 I could hardly taste it. So thanks for the tip cause I'm a noob and was gonna try the 3ohm first lol.

 

[billherbst]

passer,

A couple weeks ago, you asked if K-Max is an updated version of KY4. I replied with this post about how K-Max was a VermillionRiver in-house Frankenjuice. I then gave what I remembered to be the recipe.

Well, crud, my memory has proven inaccurate once again. That happens to me more often than I'd like---not epidemically yet, thank goodness, but sporadically. K-Max is indeed a Frankenjuice, but my formula was wrong. I was looking at the VermillionRiver entries in my juice database the other day (for a different reason) and saw my note in the K-Max entry that had the correct formula, provided by Guss at VermillionRiver.

K-Max is made by combining three other Vermillion River juices in equal portions (1:1:1 or one-third each): Kentucky Maplewood, Classic Blend, and KY4.

So, to correct my previous post: No. K-Max isn't an updated version of KY4, but it is composed of one-third KY4.

 

[passerbyeus]

Well that does make you correct in the first place, to me that just blows it out to even try as a RY4

passer,

A couple weeks ago, you asked if K-Max is an updated version of KY4. I replied with this post about how K-Max was a VermillionRiver in-house Frankenjuice. I then gave what I remembered to be the recipe.

Well, crud, my memory has proven inaccurate once again. That happens to me more often than I'd like---not epidemically yet, thank goodness, but sporadically. K-Max is indeed a Frankenjuice, but my formula was wrong. I was looking at the VermillionRiver entries in my juice database the other day (for a different reason) and saw my note in the K-Max entry that had the correct formula, provided by Guss at VermillionRiver.

K-Max is made by combining three other Vermillion River juices in equal portions (1:1:1 or one-third each): Kentucky Maplewood, Classic Blend, and KY4.

So, to correct my previous post: No. K-Max isn't an updated version of KY4, but it is composed of one-third KY4.

 

[billherbst]

specs: The 10ml bottle of RY4 I purchased from DeeJStuff came premixed, with a born on date of 7 May 2012, so no additional steeping was necessary. The crystal-clear liquid is almost totally colorless at 18mg nic strength in a 70/30 PG/VG base. Scent is very mild and RY4-like. Testing was done using a 2.5 ohm Smoktech dual-coil carto powered by a variable-wattage VAMO set to 8.5 watts RMS.

Well, well. Another American juicemaker/vendor who has concocted a Classic RY4. How rare! This will lobby for putting DeeJStuff RY4 among the better RY4s on The Big List, since classic RY4s almost always resemble each other and occupy a narrow range of the RY4 flavor profile. As a result, they also tend to bunch together in judgment. I can’t imagine a Classic RY4 to which I’d give a D grade. Oh wait! I forgot about Bauway RY4, with its overpowering disinfectant off-taste. Even that one didn’t get a D, however. I gave Bauway RY4 an F, and it deserved it, too. [Note to self: Go down to the juice dungeon soon and vape a bit of Bauway RY4, to see if three months of steeping might have diminished that dreadful taste.]

Brightness of flavor impact is one of the hallmarks of Classic RY4s, and DeeJStuff RY4 does not disappoint. In fact, it may even be a bit brighter than many Classics, which interestingly enough, will bump its score down a bit rather than up. For my palate, the brightness obscures some of the flavor depth. This juice is a soprano, or maybe even a castrato. DJS RY4 sings the high notes very well, but it has no balls. Some people may like that hummingbird wing-flutter quality. I didn’t. [Note: I like real hummingbirds very much. Their rapid wing-blur and helicopter-like agility is a delight---on a hummingbird, but not so much in an eliquid.]

By definition, Classic RY4s use synthetic tobacco flavoring, usually middle-of-the-road and carefully non-offensive. The tobacco is used to “carry” the caramel, vanilla, and any other subtle flavor ingredients. DeeJStuff RY4 does this as well, but its tobacco has somewhat more oomph than many Classics, enough that I’ll include it in the Strong Tobacco category. Unfortunately, in this case that translates to too little caramel and vanilla. That’s a shame, because DeeJStuff has made an honorable stab at a Classic RY4, which, as I wrote earlier, is a rare effort among American juicemakers. So, if you like Classic RY4s and want to give DeeJStuff RY4 a try, I’d suggest asking DeeJ to add a little extra caramel and vanilla flavoring. It wouldn’t take much more caramel-vanilla to bump up this RY4’s grade from C to B.

By the way, vapor production in DeeJStuff RY4 is quite ample, truly impressive for a 70/30 PG/VG blend. That alone bumps it up to a C+.

DeeJStuff RY4 grade: C+

link to purchase: DeeJStuff RY4 premixed

 

[billherbst]

specs: The 3ml sample bottle of Vaporescence RY4 I have was graciously sent to me for review by our thread colleague On Target (thanks, OT!). All Vaporescence liquids are made in the U.S. in Vaporescence’ own production facility. The juice itself in an almost transparent but slightly cloudy colorless liquid at 16mg nic strength in an unspecified base blend ratio. The liquid has no scent that my nose could pick up. Testing was done using a 2.5 ohm Smoktech dual-coil carto powered by a variable-wattage VAMO set to 8.5 watts RMS.

Lemon. A citrus flavor that can be wonderful or dreadful in eliquids, depending on many variables. One variable is the lemon variety that a given flavoring tries to replicate: Eureka or Lisbon lemons (more sour), Meyer lemons (more sweet), Sanbokan lemons (lemon-orange hybrid), RealLemon juice or concentrate, JollyRancher kid-candy lemon, etc. Another variable is the amount of the lemon flavoring used in a specific juice (meaning, the intensity of the lemon-y flavor). For instance, Highbrow Limoncello has just the right amount of balanced sweet-tart lemon to make me smile, but not so much that my lips pucker up from astringent sourness. A third variable is the recipe mix (the other flavorings used in the juice in addition to lemon to achieve a flavor profile).

Vaporescence RY4 may not have the slightest bit of lemon flavor in it. Or it may. I don’t know. What I do know for sure is that when I vape Vaporescence RY4, my brain immediately shouts at me: "Hey Bill: LEMON!!!!"

This brain synapse-firing message is not about how intense the lemon-y flavor is, because it’s not intense at all. In fact, it’s laid back and fairly subtle. But even a hint of lemon in an RY4 is a shocking proposition. Oh yes, I’ve tasted sourness in RY4s before---the original and all other editions of Janty have it, as do a bunch of other RY4s (check the Category Groups to see which). Generally, I find that sourness delicious, since it provides a counterbalance that not only contrasts with the sweetness, but also---somewhat unexpectedly---enhances the sweetness. However, all those sweet-sour counterbalanced RY4s use a sour element that is completely neutral and adds no flavor of its own.

Not so with Vaporescence RY4. The sourness here isn’t neutral. It’s lemon, all the way. And as lemon, it doesn’t counterbalance the sweetness. Instead, it absorbs the sweetness into the lemon flavor to counteract the sourness. How unusual is that?

So, why don’t I just give this RY4 a grade of F and let it go at that? Well, here’s the weird part: I don’t dislike the juice at all. In fact, I sort of like it. Oh sure, Vaporescence RY4 probably won’t appear on many Favorite/Best RY4 Lists, because it’s just too far afield from what we’ve come to know as RY4.

Vaporescence RY4 is, however, a bonafide Custom RY4, even if so eccentric and abnormal as to be in a class by itself. It's also a very interesting juice, with an overall taste that is not at all unpleasant, but refreshing and distinctive.

In other words, it’s a “C” RY4, but a C with an asterisk. In truth, I won’t even vape most of the RY4s in the C grade group. Why waste time on “average and pedestrian” when so many superlative and delicious RY4s exist? The asterisk here means that if you’re looking for something unusual and striking in an RY4, and you like citrus (specifically lemon), then ignore the grade and order some of this elquid immediately. I doubt that it will become many people’s favorite juice, but I’ll bet a lot of those same people would like Vaporescence RY4 and be happy to have some in their stash.

Vaporescence RY4 grade: C*

link to purchase: Vaporescence RY4

link to On Target's review of Vaporescence RY4: post #3335

 

[Jim Bob]

As always great reviews Bill!

 

[On Target]

Bill, I just knew you would detect what I could not. I have never vaped any lemon flavored e-liquid and hence, did not recognize it. I am with you 100% on Vaporescence RY4. I am still vaping it in my daily rotation after a couple of weeks but it is not anything like every other RY4 I have tried. I will probably keep vaping this juice a little each day but at the rate I am going, the 30ml (more like 35mls, was filled to the brim) bottle I purchased should last a very long time.

Great review and thanks for backing me up here!

 

[passerbyeus]

I just seen reviews for Viking Vapor I keep for getting about the RY4 they have, the last i heard it was soapy lol never tried it myself....

 

[Absinte]

dawg,

Don has never been forthcoming about his ingredients. Rumor has it that most of BWB's tobacco blends are made with in-house natural extracted tobacco, but which blends are and aren't, as well as the extraction techniques, and whatever additional tobacco flavorings might be used (Tobacco Absolute/Extract or synthetics), is a closely-guarded secret.

no im sure its not homebrew, smell like pipe tobacco to me.

 

[billherbst]

specs: The 3ml sample bottle of Professor Marvel’s Master Blend that NashvilleVapor sent me free for review contains a copper-colored transparent liquid at 18mg nic strength in an unspecified base blend. I couldn’t smell any discernible scent. Testing was done using a 2.5 ohm Smoktech dual-coil carto powered by a variable-wattage VAMO set to 8.5 watts RMS.

From the NashvilleVapor web site:

“This is a light tobacco flavor with nice smooth, sweet, and creamy undertones. Some could call this our version of an RY4.”
​

And a lovely RY4, it is, too.

NashvilleVapor Master Blend immediately calls to mind (to my mind, at least) two other Custom RY4s: MountainOakVapor CountRY-4 and VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4 (which was custom-formulated and is made for VaporBeast by MountainOak, so VB Holy Grail shares a similar flavor profile with MOV CountRY-4). Presumably, NashvilleVapor Master Blend was created by a different juicemaker/vendor, although I can’t assert that with certainty. For all I know, MOV’s talented juicemistress Brandy might be “Professor Marvel.” Whoever created it, however, Master Blend “completes the trio,” so to speak, of these three very good RY4s.

With Master Blend, NashvilleVapor offers a truly sophisticated RY4. By “sophisticated,” I don’t mean “complex,” for the very nature of RY4 leans away from complexity and toward simplicity. For RY4s, the KISS rule applies: “Keep It Simple, Stupid!”

Simple does not imply lean or sparse, however. Simple can be rich and expansive, and here, with NashvilleVapor Master Blend, richness abounds. From the bold yet mild tobacco through the luscious caramel to the creamy vanilla (which arrive during the vaping in that order---tobacco wrapped in caramel on inhale, followed by creamy vanilla on exhale), sophisticated simplicity reigns supreme.

Custom RY4s represent the cutting edge of evolution in the RY4 flavor combination, while Classic RY4s hold the anchor of tradition. NashvilleVapor impresses me as being at the very heart of that new cutting edge. We’re not talking about wild or unexpected flavors added to the original RY4 palette of tobacco, caramel, vanilla, and sometimes nuts. No, evolving the RY4 flavor profile doesn’t necessarily imply or require “pushing the envelope.” Further evolution proceeds best by finding new shadings and combinations of those essential, core flavors that increase the “yummy factor,” making the very best new RY4s more delicious than most of those created earlier.

Some of the older RY4s continue to be astonishingly good. VaporTalk Dulcis would be a perfect example if VaporTalk ever had any Dulcis in stock. Janty RY4 and, to a lesser extent, Dekang RY4, continue to provide the reference standard for Classic RY4s, although the best of the new crop of Custom RY4s challenges them for sheer vaping pleasure.

In the current RY4 Report Card, where I offer my subjective evaluation/judgment by “grading” all the RY4s on The Big List, MountainOakVapor CountRY-4 is rated B+, with VaporBeast Holy Grail RY4 receiving an A-. NashvilleVapor Master Blend deserves an A, culminating the trilogy.

NashvilleVapor Master Blend is, quite simply, great stuff. I write that knowing that some vapers will not like Master Blend. Not every vaper appreciates RY4 or tobacco vapes. Some vapers don’t like sweet vapes at all. No juice has ever (or will ever) be made that is universally loved or even liked by all vapers. But, be that as it may, I feel certain that many, many vapers will love NashvilleVapor Master Blend. This is RY4 taken to the level of a high art form.

NashvilleVapor Professor Marvel’s Master Blend grade: A

link to purchase: NashvilleVapor Professor Marvel’s Master Blend

link to the hangdude’s review of NashvilleVapor Master Blend: post #3326

 

[billherbst]

specs: The 30ml bottle of Joyetech RY4 I purchased from GoodProphets contains a copper-colored transparent liquid (almost identical to NashvilleVapor Prof. Marvel’s) at 16mg nic strength in an 100% VG base blend. Nose of the juice is pleasingly RY4-like. Testing was done using a 2.5 ohm Smoktech dual-coil carto powered by a variable-wattage VAMO set to 8.5 watts RMS.

Joyetech RY4 is a Classic RY4. This is to be expected, coming from one of the major Chinese juice manufacturers, who now have a tradition to uphold. Brightness and balance, with a unified overall flavor (rather than boldly distinctive individual flavors), and a pleasing but middle-of-the-road (and thus inoffensive) synthetic tobacco base that functions as the carrier for the caramel and vanilla. Joytech RY4 is slightly less bright than some Classics, but not by enough to make a difference. In fairness, that reduced brightness could be due to my having stepped down from 24mg nic to 18mg. In other words, it might be my particular juice rather than a trait of Joyetech RY4 in general. All other Classic qualities are brought off as one would expect.

In comparison to other Classic RY4s, the logical candidate is Dekang rather than any of the Janty offerings. Janty has a sweet-sour counterbalancing, while Dekang doesn’t. Since Joyetech doesn’t either, the natural comparison is to Dekang.

For the record, I have the 2011 version of Dekang RY4 (in the unusual 26mg nic strength that Health Cabin stocks). I don’t know for sure if Dekang RY4 has changed since then; I haven’t read anything to lead me to think that Dekang has altered their 2011 formula). Acknowledging the possible “test error” that might occur because my Joyetech RY4 is 18mg nic versus the 26mg of my Dekang, the two juices are very similar---not identical, but clearly siblings. Dekang is brighter, with more impact across the flavor spectrum. Again, that might be the extra nic fooling me. Joyetech isn’t at all subdued, but it seems calmer to me, aiming more toward the all-day-vape dimension. The flavor profiles of the two juices are almost the same, but the caramel and vanilla flavorings differ sightly from one juice to the other. Since the flavors are more unified than separate in both juices, I’d have to say that the differences in taste are very minor.

One of the great difficulties for me in writing this review is the hard fact [can we even use the word “fact” when referring to RY4s? I think we can in what I’m about to write] that Custom RY4s are now the predominant future in the evolution of RY4. Yes, good Classic RY4s are still the reference standard against which we measure our progress, and the best Classic RY4s are still quite lovely to vape. But---and this is a huge BUT---the cutting edge of RY4 is now completely on the Custom side. Creative artisan juicemakers who come out with new RY4s that knock our socks off are invariably Custom. Clearly, the future belongs to Custom RY4s.

That fact skews the judgment curve, and makes grading even a great Classic RY4 something of a challenge. If I had to make a prediction, I’d guess that, as a group, Classic RY4s will begin to slide downward on The Big RY4 Report Card over the next year or perhaps two. A-graded Classics may fall 1/2 or even an entire grade, into the B group. B-level Classics could sink into the C category.

But not yet. I really have no choice right now but to give Joyetech RY4 a grade that places it if not among at least close to its peers. While not an A, I can’t in good conscience give this traditional Classic RY4 anything less than B+. Let’s see how well that grade holds up over the next year.

Joyetech RY4 grade: B+

link to purchase: GoodProphets 16mg VG Joyetech Liquid

 

[thehangdude]

on The Big RY4 Report Card over the next year or perhaps two.

I like what this implies.

Great reviews, Bill. I am not shocked that you liked the Master Blend. It really is a good flavor that holds up over hours/days of vaping.

 

[billherbst]

RY4 aficionado and thread denizen Passerbyeus sent me a Care Package that turned out to be like one of those gag-type grab-bag party favors. It had samples of three hand-me-down RY4s, plus two rather strange juices from GotVapes Flüx Series---called Rampage and City Lights. Uh, thanks, Passer---sort of. Given that I traded half a 30ml bottle of Want2Vape DIY RY4 custom-made for Passer to get these, I think it safe to say that he got the better end of this deal. By a mile. LOL. (Don’t take offense, Passer, it was my choice to make the trade. I’m just yankin’ your chain a little, but only in fun.)

The three RY4s are: TheVaporPro RY4, vapeBIG RY4, and FeelLife RY4.

specs: TheVaporPro RY4 and FeelLife RY4 are both deep caramel-colored liquids, with no specific nic strength listed on the label (FeelLife has a sticker that says "M"), while vapeBIG RY4 is a very pale gold color at 6mg nic (which I bumped up to 18 with the addition of a tiny amount of 100mg/ml nic liquid). Base blend ratios are also unspecified, but---given their thin, watery viscosity---I’d guess these to be either all-PG or 80/20 PG/VG. All three were tested by dripping into a 2.3 ohm IKV i06 atty powered by a VAMO variable-wattage APV set to 8.5 watts.

I don’t feel that these RY4s deserve individual reviews of their own. That might lead the reader to conclude that these RY4s are utterly dreadful, unvapeable drek, the worst of the worst RY4s. But that’s not true. Only two of them are terrible.

vapeBIG RY4 is the pick of the litter and best of the three, although that’s not saying much. It’s a made-in-USA juice (as is TheVaporPro RY4) and a decent effort. Basically, vapeBIG is an average RY4, not particularly distinguished, but not bad, either. It’s OK. TheVaporPro and FeelLife RY4s fall far short, however. Dramatically far.

All three are Custom RY4s---including FeelLife, which is a second-tier Chinese juice manufacturer. Custom RY4s are as rare as hen’s teeth among Chinese juicemakers, but FeelLife tastes nothing like a Classic RY4. I have to admit, however, that the very use of the word “custom” to describe TheVaporPro and FeelLife RY4s implies more credit than I’d personally want to give. Someone obviously designed those juices, picked their ingredients, tested various mixes, and approved the final flavor profiles, but I’d be hard-pressed to suggest that much care went into their creation. I know that’s harsh and probably incorrect and unfair, but that’s my reaction when I vape them. Who would make garbage like this?

How do TheVaporPro and FeelLife RY4s fail? By being dessert-style RY4s whose excessive sweetness totally overwhelms the tobacco. Oh, the tobacco flavoring is in there somewhere, because neither tastes like a non-tobacco straight caramel or caramel-vanilla juice. But the synthetic tobaccos in both TheVaporPro and FeelLife RY4s are not allowed to shine through as flavor elements. They provide body and not much else.

Also, the sweetness in those two tastes somewhat artificial, as if sweetener had been added liberally on top of the other ingredients. TheVaporPro and FeelLife RY4s are caramel-vanilla dominant juices (in a way that’s beyond mere richness). The sweetness doesn’t enhance the caramel and vanilla, it muddies them, obscuring whatever subtlety the flavoring ingredients originally had. Those two seem to have been made with the assumption that if a little caramel and vanilla are good, then a lot will be better, and this is sadly not true.

TheVaporPro and FeelLife remind me more than anything else of DIY experiments gone awry, efforts that simply didn’t work out as hoped, which someone then tried to salvage, first by adding more of the candy flavorings (caramel and vanilla), and then---when more flavorings didn’t help---by pouring on extra sweetener as a last resort. The juicemakers should have gone back to the drawing board and started over from scratch.

Despite that opinion, I have no doubt that some vapers will love these less-than-sterling RY4s. As proof, go to TheVaporPro RY4 web page and read the 26 customer reviews. While a few are cautious or critical, the vast majority are exuberant in their enthusiastic and unrestrained praise. "Best RY4 ever!" and "Fantastic juice, my all-day-vape!" Silliness like that.

Well, I beg to differ. Right in front of me on my desk and loaded into cartos are 100 RY4s, including many of the very best RY4s in the world. I’ll add a carto for vapeBIG RY4. By comparison, however, TheVaporPro and FeelLife RY4s pale into insignificance. They’re both decidedly also-rans that fail to pass muster. Yes, taste is subjective, yadayada. Ordinarily in RY4 reviews I try to be at least moderately diplomatic and not rain too hard on anyone’s parade, but not today. I really didn’t like either of those juices. YMMV, of course.

I must be getting spoiled by all the great new RY4s coming out these days. That makes the lousy ones seem much worse.


vapeBig RY4 grade: C
link to purchase: vapeBig RY4

TheVaporPro RY4 grade: D
link to purchase: TheVaporPro RY4

FeelLife RY4 grade: D
link to purchase: FeelLife RY4 from health007.net

 

[passerbyeus]

Hey you got to test three RY4 for nine bucks ....I liked VapeBig but maybe I was vaping it against The Vapor Pro hahahah and btw Rampage is good thank you very much but would like your thoughts on it even though its not a RY4..


I got in some Black Fire flavourart with Caramel from deejstuff all it needs is Vanilla, I really like it and would make a great base DIY for RY4s..

 

[billherbst]

passer,

Yes, VapeBIG is OK. The other two were downright spectacular, but in the wrong direction. LOL.

I'll vape Rampage for more than the two minutes I did and then PM you with whatever thoughts filter up.

Maybe you'll have better luck than I've had with DIYing or Frankjuicing a decent RY4. FA Black Fire should be fine for the tobacco. Use it sparingly, though.

 

[springfieldarms]

passer,

Yes, VapeBIG is OK. The other two were downright spectacular, but in the wrong direction. LOL.

I'll vape Rampage for more than the two minutes I did and then PM you with whatever thoughts filter up.

Maybe you'll have better luck than I've had with DIYing or Frankjuicing a decent RY4. FA Black Fire should be fine for the tobacco. Use it sparingly, though.

I really agree use it very sparingly lol
The stuff is super powerful

 

[billherbst]

In theory, we should be able to make RY4 ourselves by combining tobacco, caramel, and vanilla---either by straight DIY using flavorings, or as Frankenjuice by combining finished juices of each type. In theory...

In practice, it turns out to be considerably more difficult---at least if my personal experience is any guide. The nearly infinite variations among tobacco flavors, caramels, and vanillas make compatibility a big issue. Some combinations ought to work but don't. In fact, many combinations of those three flavors just lie on the table and never come to life. Odd tobaccos are a bad start, for instance, and the caramel and vanilla not only have to interact well with each other, but they need to complement the tobacco. And, of course, there's the question of ratios. How much of each flavor to use?

I've tried to make a halfway decent RY4 many times through both methods---DIY and Frankenjuicing. All I have to show for my efforts is a long string of failures. Many of the experiments produced hybrid combo-juices that weren't dreadful---meaning that they were OK and at least vapable---but they just didn't make it as good or even fair-to-middlin' RY4s. Until this morning.

One of my favorite tobacco blends is Sweet-Vapes Caramel Spanish-Gold. It's a good-tasting NET tobacco combined with a deep, rich caramel. I've been vaping it in my melangerie of daily juices for more than a year, and I hardly ever tire of it. Caramel Spanish-Gold isn't one of those OMG juices that people fall in love with (i.e., Bounty Hunter, Gandalf, etc.), but it's a workhorse, so I never vape so much of it that I burn out and fall out of love with it, as I did with both Bounty Hunter and Gandalf.

I've had the thought on numerous occasions that since Caramel Spanish-Gold (like most caramel-tobacco blends) is already 2/3 of an RY4, it should be a workable base for adding vanilla to get that last third. This morning I decided to find out.

I dripped 25 drops of Sweet-Vapes Caramel Spanish Gold into a 3ml bottle. Then the question was, what Vanilla to use? I have 60 juices and flavorings that are either straight vanillas or vanilla blends (Vanilla Nut, Vanilla Coffee, Vanilla Cupcake, Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, etc.), so my first decision was to go the Frankenjuice route and use a retail Vanilla juice, while my second decision was to stick with a straight Vanilla with no other non-vanilla flavorings. I have 19 of those. After some thought, I mentally threw a dart at a board and picked AltCig Vanilla Love, which is an ultra-rich blend of different vanillas.

I added seven drops of Vanilla Love to the 3ml bottle containing 25 drops of Caramel Spanish-Gold. Shake-shake-shake. Technically, I should have then put the bottle into a cupboard and let it steep for a couple days to allow the vanilla to meld with the caramel tobacco, but I'm impatient: I slapped a 2.5 ohm IKV i06 atty onto a VAMO set to 8 watts, then dripped in five drops of the Frankenjuice.

Wow. I just made Franken4! And it's good! What a pleasant surprise. If I were to grade this as an RY4 right now, I'd call it a B. Not the greatest RY4 ever made, but respectable and tasty.

I'm going to triple the volume of the recipe, then put the bottle away to steep for a couple days. I'll report back after the steeping. Who knows? It might even improve to a B+.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Wow. I just made Franken4! And it's good! What a pleasant surprise. If I were to grade this as an RY4 right now, I'd call it a B. Not the greatest RY4 ever made, but respectable and tasty.

...might that be fRankYn4..?