In a previous post, I noticed GoodProphets GP4 listed in the B- and C- ratings on the Big RY4 List. What I may have found since is the actual reason. Your Review of
GoodProphets GP4 didn't get a rating, just a placement on the list at #28
You also reviewed
GoodProphets 18mg VG Joyetech RY4 and rated it a B+
but it is not on the BIG RY4 ROUNDUP LIST
In vaping time, those linked posts---from two years ago and one year ago respectively---are for me the equivalent of visiting past lives.
I started
The Really Big RY4 Roundup thread using numerical rankings, mainly because I had no idea what a Frankenstein monster the thread would become. When the number of RY4s I'd reviewed and put on
The Big List became overwhelming, somewhere around the 60 mark, I felt that the numerical rankings were becoming arbitrary and nit-picky (what made the #28 RY4 one rank better than #29 and one worse than #27?). The whole process of ranking every single RY4 was driving me crazy. At that point, roughly six months in, I announced that I would quit altogether ranking RY4s. I believed then---and still feel now---that the very idea of judging RY4s on a public forum was/is fraught with all sorts of vexing problems---from the "taste is subjective" issue through the arrogance of one person (namely, me) presuming to make authoritative pronouncements about which RY4s were "better" or "worse," to the inherent foolishness of "Top 100" lists of
anything. General consensus of thread participants at the time, however, remained strongly in favor of rankings.
My compromise was to switch from numerical rankings to giving grades. That way, I'd reduce at least a little the pitfalls of evaluating individual RY4s by grouping them together under various grades (
A,
A-,
B+, etc.).
Since then, two more years have passed. I still believe that the whole notion of giving grades to RY4s is inherently flawed, but I've relaxed about it some. Oh yeah, the grades given still reflect my own particular biases, but I acknowledge having earned a certain "street cred" by vaping more RY4s than 99% of the vapers in the world. My review process now routinely includes comparison-vaping the RY4 under scrutiny against numerous other similar RY4s.
Please keep in mind that the grades I give aren't cast in stone. I don't hesitate to change the grade of a given RY4 up or down as my judgment about it changes over time, usually because of comparison-vaping against other RY4s. The only reason that
Good Prophets RY4 was listed under both the
B- and
C- groups is that I upped the grade at some point and neglected to remove the previous entry. I'm fallible, you know, and keeping all these lists updated and 100% accurate is a lot of very precise work. I correct mistakes as I find them or when I'm informed about them. In the January update of
The RY4 Report Card, GP4 will get only one grade, presumably a
B-, unless I decide between now and then to change the grade again.
JoyeTech RY4 is still on
The Big RY4 List. It's right where it's been since being reviewed a year ago, listed under
Good Prophets, the vendor from whom I bought my bottle of JoyeTech RY4.
In addition, while I was at GoodProphets ordering hardware on Cyber Monday, I picked up a Dekang RY4 and Dekang DK TAB 10ml on both and a 50 ml Hangsen all 24nic and all PG. They are all synthetics correct? They don't need any steep time?
All the juices you mention are made with synthetic, lab-based flavorings. I can't state for sure that one or more might not contain
some TA, but they're all definitely classed as synthetics and not NETs.
Those juices---and any others you buy or make---need steep time
only if
you feel that they do. Steeping is another of those subjective factors in vaping. Sure, most juices need some time for the flavorings to meld and bloom, and some juices will change markedly over months, but people often post advice about steeping certain juices that read like objective facts:
"Juice A should be steeped for two weeks. Juice B is good to go when you get it." Well, those aren't facts, they're
opinions---personal, anecdotal, and subjective, and the statements offered with such seeming certainty may or may not reflect your own experience.
Steeping is what we do
intentionally when we aren't 100% thrilled with a new juice, but it's also what happens
naturally as our bottles of juice age. My strong suggestion is to take with a huge grain of salt what others post about any particular juice needing steeping (or not), and instead let your own palate be the sole judge.
Go Cameron and Tommy! (BTW, did I report their new Peach Cobbler is very good! Well blended, does not scream PEACH, a touch of cinnamon, smooth and I vape several flavors throughout the day. Perfect for morning with my coffee). Nuff said, this is an RY4 thread....
From flavors I have tasted so far, I can see (taste?) what you are saying.
