Interesting...
I have an agent out in the field up that way. I will try to get some feedback on this vendor and their shop.
~ Double 0 Juicy
The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)
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Interesting...
I have an agent out in the field up that way. I will try to get some feedback on this vendor and their shop.
~ Double 0 Juicy
Does anyone know of any other RY4's that taste like Tribeca. It is my favorite by far out of what I have tried so far with Mr Vape and then Butterfly being 2nd and third for me so far. Didn't like the Indigo Classic to much as it taste like straight vanilla to me, maybe it will change with age. I have a new classic ry4 and a regular ry4 that Tony sent me from indigo as he wants to make sure the classic I received was what it was supposed to be, EXCELLENT VENDOR. So I will let everyone know how I like the other bottle of classic and the reg ry4 when I try them. The RW Vapor RY4 I tried after a month of steeping tasted very flowery to me and I can not taste anything but maybe the tobacco. The Apollo I tried is also good I just like the other 3 I mentioned at the top better. I have several other RY4's I haven't tried yet as I was letting them steep but really figured I would check here as you guys know everything about this stuff. Tribeca is like gold to me and if I could find something that tasted similar for a better price it would be nice as 20 bucks for 30ml is a bit steep, although if its my only choice its worth it : )
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Specs: The 10ml of MANS RY4 (MANS is probably an acronym for the maker of the juice, but I dont know what the acronym stands for) that I purchased from Smokecignals came in a hard plastic transparent dropper bottle. The liquid is a light golden colored transparency at 18 mg nic in a 50/50 PG/VG base blend. The nose is slight but pleasing. No born-on date appears on the label, but its been a week since I placed the order, so that will have to be enough steeping. Testing was done by atty-dripping into a 2.3 ohm JoyeTech standard 510 atty powered by a VAMO v2 set to 9.0 watts RMS.
Wow. Two in a row. I described the last RY4 I reviewed---RailwaY4 from StratoMyst---as a good juice thats a bad RY4. Smokecignals RY4 leans in the same direction, although not as far. Its not quite as interesting a juice as RailwaY4, but its not as bad as an RY4, either. Let me explain.
During Smokecignals recent 50% off sale, I went a little loony and ordered nine 10ml bottles of retail juice. What the heck, with half off the juices were about 33¢/ml shipped---not as cheap as DIY, which is my main source of eliquid these days, but not terribly expensive, either. Besides RY4, the other eight juices I ordered were bakery, candy, and fruit blends. Overall, the juices are pretty good in my subjective judgment, except for one element: They all share the same base, which is not so much a distinct flavor as a flavor-like tone that comes through all the other flavors.
This is true of many vendors in-house retail juices, which carry a signature tone that is the same across an entire line of eliquids, regardless of the official flavors. Vape any individual juice, no matter what the flavor, and you immediately think, Well, thats definitely a juice from XYZ.
An example from the past is KickBassVapor RY4, which carries its vendor/maker's pervasive signature tone. In that case, however, the base tone didn't detract from the RY4-ness of the juice. I knew the base tone was present, but it didn't matter to me.
Smokecignals eliquids have that across-the-board signature almost-flavor, and while it doesnt mar my enjoyment of the other eight juices I purchased from Smokecignals, it does bother me in their RY4. Yes, the Holy Trinity of RY4 flavorings is clearly present---tobacco, caramel, and vanilla---and they seem OK, which is why this is a moderately acceptable Custom RY4 to me. It might even be good, but right as I inhale, I get that signature base tone, which pulls the other flavorings off balance. I wont suggest that the base tone competes with or smothers the RY4 flavors, but it does underpin them in a way that doesnt thrill me. Its a little like changing juices when youre atty-dripping without blowing out the atomizer before dripping the second juice. You get a Frankenjuice thats a combination of both liquids. This is RY4 plus something else, and that something else shouldnt be there. I wish I knew what this RY4 tasted like without that signature base tone, but I cant really imagine it, since the base tone infuses the entire experience.
Smokecignals RY4 isnt a major fail, its just not a particularly clean (meaning neutral) or memorable Custom RY4. If you like Custom RY4s, you can do much better than this.
Smokecignals RY4 grade: C-
link to purchase: Smokecignals RY4
Wow. Two in a row. I described the last RY4 I reviewed---RailwaY4 from StratoMyst---as a good juice thats a bad RY4. Smokecignals RY4 leans in the same direction, although not as far. Its not quite as interesting a juice as RailwaY4, but its not as bad as an RY4, either. Let me explain.
During Smokecignals recent 50% off sale, I went a little loony and ordered nine 10ml bottles of retail juice. What the heck, with half off the juices were about 33¢/ml shipped---not as cheap as DIY, which is my main source of eliquid these days, but not terribly expensive, either. Besides RY4, the other eight juices I ordered were bakery, candy, and fruit blends. Overall, the juices are pretty good in my subjective judgment, except for one element: They all share the same base, which is not so much a distinct flavor as a flavor-like tone that comes through all the other flavors.
This is true of many vendors in-house retail juices, which carry a signature tone that is the same across an entire line of eliquids, regardless of the official flavors. Vape any individual juice, no matter what the flavor, and you immediately think, Well, thats definitely a juice from XYZ.
An example from the past is KickBassVapor RY4, which carries its vendor/maker's pervasive signature tone. In that case, however, the base tone didn't detract from the RY4-ness of the juice. I knew the base tone was present, but it didn't matter to me.
Smokecignals eliquids have that across-the-board signature almost-flavor, and while it doesnt mar my enjoyment of the other eight juices I purchased from Smokecignals, it does bother me in their RY4. Yes, the Holy Trinity of RY4 flavorings is clearly present---tobacco, caramel, and vanilla---and they seem OK, which is why this is a moderately acceptable Custom RY4 to me. It might even be good, but right as I inhale, I get that signature base tone, which pulls the other flavorings off balance. I wont suggest that the base tone competes with or smothers the RY4 flavors, but it does underpin them in a way that doesnt thrill me. Its a little like changing juices when youre atty-dripping without blowing out the atomizer before dripping the second juice. You get a Frankenjuice thats a combination of both liquids. This is RY4 plus something else, and that something else shouldnt be there. I wish I knew what this RY4 tasted like without that signature base tone, but I cant really imagine it, since the base tone infuses the entire experience.
Smokecignals RY4 isnt a major fail, its just not a particularly clean (meaning neutral) or memorable Custom RY4. If you like Custom RY4s, you can do much better than this.
Smokecignals RY4 grade: C-
link to purchase: Smokecignals RY4
Thanks Bill. I, too, took advantage (got sucked into a nice sale) the Smokecignals sale. I only tried 3 flavors though. I have not tried the RY4 yet, other two are dessert. The one I tried a drip of was ok. Interesting about the signature note. Another vendor that recently had good sales I also find that signature note through all the flavors and out of 10 I tried I was able to vape 3. The 7 others were just overpowered with this certain flavor note I just put them in the "nah" box. I left the Smoke home for this current 10 day business trip to steep. I will be interested to try all 3 including the RY4 when I get home.
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Thanks Bill, I was pretty sure that was the case as it is so unique tasting but thought maybe I'd get lucky. Guess I'm a Halo fan for life. Kind of hooked on their Freedom Juice as well and the Voodoo is very nice every once in awhile.
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RY4s that don't taste like RY4s? I guess its a new trend, because my bottle of RY4 from theonestopvaporshop.com is about as custom as I've tried.
On the inhale, this RY4 reminds me of Copper Creek's version of RY4. There is a slight "off" flavor that is similar to watery musk. It is slightly perfumey. With the exhale, this distinct flavor morphs into a cherry infused tobacco base flavor. It seems that theonestopvaporshop used a cherry pipe tobacco to flavor their RY4.
The caramel and vanilla are very present. Both are creamy with the highs and lows of a good custom RY4.
So what we have is a cherry RY4. It leans heavily into the dessert spectre of custom ry4. I have no idea how to grade this version. I can't see any of the regulars in this thread ordering a bottle to get their RY4 fix. But I find it a pleasantly smooth flavor that I can vape for at least an hour (as I have). I could give it two grades, one as an RY4 and another as a random blend. But since this is an RY4 thread, my grade will be such. C- because of its odd components.
And into Bill's care package it goes, with the 115ml of FreedomSmokeUSA RY4.
RY4s that don't taste like RY4s? I guess its a new trend, because my bottle of RY4 from theonestopvaporshop.com is about as custom as I've tried.
On the inhale, this RY4 reminds me of Copper Creek's version of RY4. There is a slight "off" flavor that is similar to watery musk. It is slightly perfumey. With the exhale, this distinct flavor morphs into a cherry infused tobacco base flavor. It seems that theonestopvaporshop used a cherry pipe tobacco to flavor their RY4.
The caramel and vanilla are very present. Both are creamy with the highs and lows of a good custom RY4.
So what we have is a cherry RY4. It leans heavily into the dessert spectre of custom ry4. I have no idea how to grade this version. I can't see any of the regulars in this thread ordering a bottle to get their RY4 fix. But I find it a pleasantly smooth flavor that I can vape for at least an hour (as I have). I could give it two grades, one as an RY4 and another as a random blend. But since this is an RY4 thread, my grade will be such. C- because of its odd components.
And into Bill's care package it goes, with the 115ml of FreedomSmokeUSA RY4.
hangdude,
Okee-dokee. I've added TheOneStopVaporShop RY4 to The Big RY4 List and linked to your review (with credit). I also placed it in the "Distinctive (atypical)" group of the RY4 Category Groups. I didn't put it on The RY4 Report Card, but I will after I receive your package and review it myself. Odds seem high that it won't get an A from me. LOL.
Can anyone steer me to an RY4 that might be similar to the long-time discontinued Backwoods Brew RY4?
It was the only tobacco flavor I ever truly enjoyed. Now I stick with dessert flavors but I really have a hankering for my old fav RY4.
It was the only tobacco flavor I ever truly enjoyed. Now I stick with dessert flavors but I really have a hankering for my old fav RY4.
If an RY4 were available in the marketplace that tasted similar to BWB RY4, you'd already know about it, because 10,000 people would have shouted it from the rooftops.
No RY4 exists that is similar to BWB.
Haven't posted in this wonderful thread in awhile, but I came here to say that due to a thoughtful gift from Cool Breeze (some time ago), I am thoroughly enjoying Heartland Vapes 12 mg RY4. At first I wasn't too keen on it, though I could tell it was quality, but I'd say the oft-spoken steeping phenom has worked some serious magic on this liquid. It' several shades darker now and the flavor is really rich -- that may be due to my recent and unexpected move in RDAs (specifically the Veritas -- love this device!), but either which way, I am happily vaping this liquid.
Mr.M,
I've been around the block and back with HeartlandVapes RY4. As you note, it has all the earmarks of a high-quality, well-made RY4. That never changes. It's definitely in the Classic genre, and yet, something in the flavor profile deviates from normal taste of a Classic RY4. I've never been able to put my finger on what's different about it, and I can't even begin to describe the difference, but it's obvious and unmistakeable. That deviation---whatever it is---isn't sufficient to push Heartland RY4 into Custom RY4 territory, but it does stand apart from other Classic RY4s.
On The Big RY4 Report Card, I've put it into the B group, but it probably deserves a B+. Some RY4s reach out and grab us---Halo Tribeca, the mythic BWB RY4, and MOV Gambler/Rambler, to name a few. Heartland RY4 isn't like that. HV RY4 needs the patience of a long vaping session for full appreciation of its best qualities to emerge. It's sneaky. At first, my reaction is "OK, so what?" Slowly, that ho-hum response morphs into "Hey, this is pretty good." While it never actually blossoms into the fantastic flavor category for me---that peculiar deviation is always present to my palate---if I vape it long enough, eventually I realize how much I'm enjoying it and how satisfied I am. HV RY4 is a terrific choice when I'm working intensely on some project (usually at the computer) and need a good juice I can vape without being distracted or even thinking about it.
And yes, HV RY4 is definitely a long steeper. The color change away from the pale gold of its youth and toward a deeper peach in adulthood is a good barometer that it's ready for prime time.
I've been around the block and back with HeartlandVapes RY4. As you note, it has all the earmarks of a high-quality, well-made RY4. That never changes. It's definitely in the Classic genre, and yet, something in the flavor profile deviates from normal taste of a Classic RY4. I've never been able to put my finger on what's different about it, and I can't even begin to describe the difference, but it's obvious and unmistakeable. That deviation---whatever it is---isn't sufficient to push Heartland RY4 into Custom RY4 territory, but it does stand apart from other Classic RY4s.
On The Big RY4 Report Card, I've put it into the B group, but it probably deserves a B+. Some RY4s reach out and grab us---Halo Tribeca, the mythic BWB RY4, and MOV Gambler/Rambler, to name a few. Heartland RY4 isn't like that. HV RY4 needs the patience of a long vaping session for full appreciation of its best qualities to emerge. It's sneaky. At first, my reaction is "OK, so what?" Slowly, that ho-hum response morphs into "Hey, this is pretty good." While it never actually blossoms into the fantastic flavor category for me---that peculiar deviation is always present to my palate---if I vape it long enough, eventually I realize how much I'm enjoying it and how satisfied I am. HV RY4 is a terrific choice when I'm working intensely on some project (usually at the computer) and need a good juice I can vape without being distracted or even thinking about it.
And yes, HV RY4 is definitely a long steeper. The color change away from the pale gold of its youth and toward a deeper peach in adulthood is a good barometer that it's ready for prime time.
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I've been considering that HV4 can be a great value vape. In 250 ml quantity, it can be had for around $0.15 per ml, including shipping. I'd like to cash in all my vaping excesses, simplify my approach and utilize HV4 as an all day vape. Other RY4s might then serve to provide some variety.
I used to balk at the notion of "all-day vapes," but as of late I have done an about-face! Now I am too looking to simplify my approach to liquid. Thank you so much for this liquid, CB. It was nice to be able to go on a new-liquid-to-vape quest in my own stash. Yes, this is a great value.
I also get something in HV's RY4 that's very different; a flavor note I can't describe even though it has an immediate and strong presence for me. An unnatural flavor to me, meaning I don't recognise it as something in edibles (vanilla, caramel, or any food) nor as something from tobacco. Descriptions like plastic, or stale water come to mind, but those are very reaching. It's not bad or foul for me, but I might say unwelcome.
Minus that note, I find a classic tasting RY4, that has a caramel that's become more rich with age, and a nice balance and flavor.
Bringing that all together, I immediately found it to be a well made RY4 that has a note that could either break it for me or that I would adjust to and either not mind or potentially enjoy. I've yet to find that out, because this bottle was designated to.. "this bottle can safely sit and wait while I vape my large stash of juices that will go bad much quicker than this synthetic RY4, so I'll get to this later."
Seeing these posts had me grab for it, and I agree that a long steep has been very beneficial. Now I just need to find out how that different note plays out for me, so I'm giving it a long session. Like I said, that note isn't repulsive or specifically bad, so it won't be a challenge to vape for a while. It's already improving on me as I type this which is a good sign, though I still have that feeling that I wish that note wasn't there.
Update on HeartlandVapes RY4 that I've been vaping since last night.
As I hoped, my mind has adjusted to and accepted the flavor note that came across as "unnatural" to me. What that leaves is a very tasty classic RY4 with an odd/unique note to it. Not a personal favorite RY4, but one I'll continue to enjoy while the bottle lasts. And thanks again to Cool for sharing this juice.
It has me think back to Highbrow's RY4. That too had an "unnatural" note to me, but unlike HV's RY4 it DID repulse me and was much more specifically chemical (like acetone). Could I also have adjusted to it with time and appreciate the custom RY4 underneath? Since my repulsion was so strong, I think it's unlikely, but will concede possible. However, my willingness to go through the painful experience of giving it a chance is and forever will be ZERO. That juice served it's purpose as an insecticide in a homemade fruit fly trap.
As I hoped, my mind has adjusted to and accepted the flavor note that came across as "unnatural" to me. What that leaves is a very tasty classic RY4 with an odd/unique note to it. Not a personal favorite RY4, but one I'll continue to enjoy while the bottle lasts. And thanks again to Cool for sharing this juice.
It has me think back to Highbrow's RY4. That too had an "unnatural" note to me, but unlike HV's RY4 it DID repulse me and was much more specifically chemical (like acetone). Could I also have adjusted to it with time and appreciate the custom RY4 underneath? Since my repulsion was so strong, I think it's unlikely, but will concede possible. However, my willingness to go through the painful experience of giving it a chance is and forever will be ZERO. That juice served it's purpose as an insecticide in a homemade fruit fly trap.
Jerms, sometimes the "possible" is just theoretical! LOL. Although, in this instance, you surely know that.
The suspect taste in HV4 tastes like 'new.' New like new clothes have an odor before they are washed. Other products have a 'new' odor when they are fresh out of the box. The taste in HV4 is not like new clothes, or does anything else specific 'new' come to mind, but the taste is reminiscent of something 'new.'
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