These two are a tie for me Mt Baker Vapor - RY4........................ Mountain Oak Vapor - Classic CountRY4..................... Though they taste different, both are excellent.
The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)
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Rick,
Yeah, it's just you. LOL.
I figured I might have a Voodoo carto in the RY4 collection, but couldn't find it, so I got out my eight-month-old 15ml bottle of Voodoo to fill a new Boge. The bottle has only 5 mls left, and man, is it a dark liquid! Almost black. The 40/60 blend makes it seem like sludge. It's not even transparent, although it did soak into the Boge fairly easily.
My palate doesn't pick up any Bourbon. No liqueur tang at all, but then maybe my bottle of Voodoo has died from old age. Even though eight months is young for a juice to expire, the flavor I get is well, not muted, but leaning toward the tasteless and nondescript end of the scale. A bit like baker's chocolate, except not as sharp. More chalky. Even at 5 volts with a 2.1 ohm BogeLR, the juice is dead. I don't think it's a good test, because something has happened to put this juice six feet under. Oh, well, Rest in Peace.
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I have mt. Baker ry4 I and I like it though I haven't spent much time with it I still have their red hots untouched in my drawer and I need to retest the cin churro I have cuz it was kind of weird which is why they have sat in the drawer.
Country4 I dig also. I keep telling myself to order from highbrow, but I keep finding these little known shops that grab my interest so much more....
Hello scarf-ace , how would you describe Voo's Broo ? I've been tempted to test it but haven't bit YET LOL
For me, Voo's Broo is tobacco overlayed by something like caramel, but it's like they surgically removed the sweetness and left in the kind of dark, buttery notes in the caramel. Mysterious and absolutely wonderful.
So Bill, what would you say your best successes have been, in your mix-your-own-brew doings?
sandy,
I've added different vanilla flavorings (regular vanilla, French vanilla, vanilla custard, or vanilla cream) to a number of retail straight tobaccos in a way that almost always pleases me, but those don't really qualify as DIY.
For true DIY (meaning made from scratch), two candidates come to mind as the yummiest successes. My DIY version of Mom&Pop's RYO4, made with tobacco extract, two different caramels, and three different vanillas, and a DIY Mixed Berries juice, made with strawberry, raspberry, blackberry, and blueberry, with half a drop of menthol added---not enough to taste any menthol, but sufficient to add a slightly cooling effect to the berries.
Both sound nummilicious, Bill 
So maybe you have a post-retirement career in juicery!
All the best,
Sandy
So maybe you have a post-retirement career in juicery!
All the best,
Sandy
Bill,
(IF you don't mind too much my asking) I have some TA and EM on it's way (not sure when it will come) and want to "play with" the TPA Asan and Double RY4 flavors to "kick it up a notch" (my apologies to Emeril) do you have any such recipes to give me any ideas on this ? I'm not really sure what TA tastes like (though I'm certain I have vaped it in commercial jooses) TIA
(IF you don't mind too much my asking) I have some TA and EM on it's way (not sure when it will come) and want to "play with" the TPA Asan and Double RY4 flavors to "kick it up a notch" (my apologies to Emeril) do you have any such recipes to give me any ideas on this ? I'm not really sure what TA tastes like (though I'm certain I have vaped it in commercial jooses) TIA
I have no recipes for any DIY. Just be sure to start with very small amounts of Absolute. Don't think so much in percentages, think instead in drops of Tobacco Absolute, beginning with just one or two.
I've never read a good description (or any description, for that matter) of the flavor of Tobacco Absolute, nor could I offer one, and I've thought about it for a long time. You'll recognize it the minute you taste it, however. It's unmistakeable. My personal preference is for Tobacco Extract, which is a somewhat less concentrated but still potent derivative of Absolute. I love that stuff.
Bill, this is not cheating, it is "NORMAL" in Australia, where all E-liquids are "doublers": double-flavoured liquids meant to be diluted with an equal amount of unflavoured nic juice. (One of my favourite vendors even packages the 10mls of juice in a 30 ml bottle, so no wasted bottles.) As you may know, nicotine is only available in this country in patch, gum, or carcinogenic leaf form.
Of course, that doesn't stop me from importing it for personal use from China and the USA...in vast quantities, hehehe.As someone who has tried both BWB Malty Toffee and HBV English Malt Toffee, I highly prefer the latter. BWB is fairly one dimensional compared to HBV, which just goes on and on. I strongly urge a 10ml bottle purchase next time you shop with them.
The 3ml bottle of Heavenly Tobacco I purchased was part of a four-bottle E-Liquid Sampler Pack from Heathers Heavenly Vapes. I dont know whether this bottle was custom-made-to-order or batch prepared prior to sale. I would think prior batch-preparation more likely, given what a pain it would be to have to mix up four 3ml bottles every time someone ordered a Sampler. Just to be on the safe side, I let it open-bottle steep for four days anyway.
The liquid itself is a light-golden color transparency at 12mg nic strength in a 70/30 PG/VG blend. I added four drops of 100mg nic liquid to the 3ml bottle to up the nic strength to 18mg. I figured that four drops wouldnt dilute the flavor much (tasting both before and after adding the extra nic, I noticed no flavor loss, although the impact of the juice was substantially more punchy at 18mg). Testing was done using a 2.7 ohm Ultimate CE2 clearomizer run at 4.5 volts on a Vector VV, for a power output of 7.5 watts.
Wow. This is the fourth or fifth custom RY4 Ive had in a row that qualifies as a candidate for all-day-vape status. That means that the juices overall flavor is subtle and mild rather than intense and bold. In-your-face flavor lovers can stop reading now. Heavenly Tobacco doesnt shout, it whispers. Or maybe purrs would be a better verb. In addition, this RY4 is more like a purée or smoothee than a chunky stew---no particular flavor ingredient stands out. In fact, I cant taste any individual flavors at all, just an overall RY4-ness.
In this regard, Heavenly Tobacco is in the same ball park as Mr.Vape RY4. I use that particular comparison because MrVape RY4 has steadily risen in my personal Top 10 List of favorite RY4s. So, just mentioning MrVape RY4 implies by association some fairly serious praise for Heavenly Tobacco.
The description on the web site states: more rich and complex than any RY4 on the market. Well, the particular juice in my sample bottle doesnt strike me as especially rich or complex, but thats not to suggest that I consider it lean or simple. HT is mysterious enough that I couldnt begin to tell you what flavors are used. Happily, I dont pick up any off-color elements, at least none that I can discern. Perhaps its layered like lasagna and complex as all get-out, but I get a single flavor experience from Heavenly Tobacco. And far from being a bad thing, I regard that unity of flavor melding as a triumph of quality juice-making.
The description also includes "notes of nuts," but I didn't taste much that was nut-like (nothing even close to the nuttiness of IKV Gold, by contrast). I tasted sweetness for sure, but not dessert sweet, for the flavor profile also has a sour component that counterbalances the sweetness. Im a fan of the sweet-sour polarity in RY4s, and I wish more of them had it. Heavenly Tobacco is only the sixth RY4 thats sweet-and-sour out of the 80-or-so retail RY4s Ive tried.
One unusual facet of the vaping experience that made a distinct impression on me was that some quality of the juice lingered on my tongue after exhale and took about 20-30 seconds to dissipate afterwards. I wouldnt call what remained a flavor or taste exactly, and Im uncertain whether I liked it or not. I dont remember having a similar experience with any other RY4, and I have no idea what it means. Lowering the voltage didnt lessen or remove the sensation of something lingering. Worth noting, however, if for no other reason than rarity.
Is this a good custom RY4? Of course. Do I like it? Well, let me put it this way: I like AltCig Krave Kutter more than AltCig RY4, I love MrVape Special Blend more than MrVape RY4, Ill take VR Kentucky Vanilla over KY4, and I prefer Heather's Gandalf to Heavenly Tobacco. See, the problem isnt those RY4s---all of which are terrific. Its me, not the juices. So, if you like subtle RY4s, please dont let the lean of my palate deter you from trying this one.
My personal Grade for Heavenly Tobacco: a solid B+
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The liquid itself is a light-golden color transparency at 12mg nic strength in a 70/30 PG/VG blend. I added four drops of 100mg nic liquid to the 3ml bottle to up the nic strength to 18mg. I figured that four drops wouldnt dilute the flavor much (tasting both before and after adding the extra nic, I noticed no flavor loss, although the impact of the juice was substantially more punchy at 18mg). Testing was done using a 2.7 ohm Ultimate CE2 clearomizer run at 4.5 volts on a Vector VV, for a power output of 7.5 watts.
Wow. This is the fourth or fifth custom RY4 Ive had in a row that qualifies as a candidate for all-day-vape status. That means that the juices overall flavor is subtle and mild rather than intense and bold. In-your-face flavor lovers can stop reading now. Heavenly Tobacco doesnt shout, it whispers. Or maybe purrs would be a better verb. In addition, this RY4 is more like a purée or smoothee than a chunky stew---no particular flavor ingredient stands out. In fact, I cant taste any individual flavors at all, just an overall RY4-ness.
In this regard, Heavenly Tobacco is in the same ball park as Mr.Vape RY4. I use that particular comparison because MrVape RY4 has steadily risen in my personal Top 10 List of favorite RY4s. So, just mentioning MrVape RY4 implies by association some fairly serious praise for Heavenly Tobacco.
The description on the web site states: more rich and complex than any RY4 on the market. Well, the particular juice in my sample bottle doesnt strike me as especially rich or complex, but thats not to suggest that I consider it lean or simple. HT is mysterious enough that I couldnt begin to tell you what flavors are used. Happily, I dont pick up any off-color elements, at least none that I can discern. Perhaps its layered like lasagna and complex as all get-out, but I get a single flavor experience from Heavenly Tobacco. And far from being a bad thing, I regard that unity of flavor melding as a triumph of quality juice-making.
The description also includes "notes of nuts," but I didn't taste much that was nut-like (nothing even close to the nuttiness of IKV Gold, by contrast). I tasted sweetness for sure, but not dessert sweet, for the flavor profile also has a sour component that counterbalances the sweetness. Im a fan of the sweet-sour polarity in RY4s, and I wish more of them had it. Heavenly Tobacco is only the sixth RY4 thats sweet-and-sour out of the 80-or-so retail RY4s Ive tried.
One unusual facet of the vaping experience that made a distinct impression on me was that some quality of the juice lingered on my tongue after exhale and took about 20-30 seconds to dissipate afterwards. I wouldnt call what remained a flavor or taste exactly, and Im uncertain whether I liked it or not. I dont remember having a similar experience with any other RY4, and I have no idea what it means. Lowering the voltage didnt lessen or remove the sensation of something lingering. Worth noting, however, if for no other reason than rarity.
Is this a good custom RY4? Of course. Do I like it? Well, let me put it this way: I like AltCig Krave Kutter more than AltCig RY4, I love MrVape Special Blend more than MrVape RY4, Ill take VR Kentucky Vanilla over KY4, and I prefer Heather's Gandalf to Heavenly Tobacco. See, the problem isnt those RY4s---all of which are terrific. Its me, not the juices. So, if you like subtle RY4s, please dont let the lean of my palate deter you from trying this one.
My personal Grade for Heavenly Tobacco: a solid B+
Link: https://secure28.webhostinghub.com/~heathe54/store2/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=2
Thats odd with Heavenly Tobacco all I tasted was the nuts which made it very sharp to me, now that I think back it was not to bad since the ones I have tried since that one lol But I was told the version changed since I tried it so I may try again...
Eric posted this over on the Vapor Station thread good chance for someone to try VS4..."All I know of the bottles is they're VS4 and are 16mg and 24mg in nicotine content. The problem is they're unlabeled, so I no longer know which ones are 16mg and which are 24mg.
I'll let each bottle go for $3.00 + shipping. PM me if interested!"
Eric posted this over on the Vapor Station thread good chance for someone to try VS4..."All I know of the bottles is they're VS4 and are 16mg and 24mg in nicotine content. The problem is they're unlabeled, so I no longer know which ones are 16mg and which are 24mg.
I'll let each bottle go for $3.00 + shipping. PM me if interested!"
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passer,
If HHV says nuts and you taste nuts, it's probably brain damage on my part. Maybe it's a particular nut flavor my palate doesn't recognize. I can discern pecan or peanut (just tried some juices with those in them), but maybe my system is blotto with more generic nut flavors.
That sounds delicious. Tribeca is so good when it's been well-steeped.
No, I haven't tried any Rawr juices. (So many more RY4s to buy, so few coins left in the coffers...) If someone would send me a small sample, however, I'd happily review JY4 (hint, hint---LOL).
It's funny that you mentioned Vermillion's KPB in your HHV Heavenly review. As soon as I tried HHV's Heavenly, I had to do a double take and check that I wasn't vaping on a KY Premium carto. Heavenly has a lot of the same notes as the regular KPB, KPB Maplewood, and Blend #7. That's a good thing, BTW. The strongest note I get is the sweetness, which is caramel or maple-like. I don't get any distinct vanilla or nuttiness, but that is because the flavors are so well melded together. Lots of nice ebb and flow in this juice. I would really like to see an RY4 from HHV that is part of the Purity like, and thus a naturally extracted tobacco. Wink wink. Nudge nudge.
Dear Folks from this lovely thread:
Even though many ecig suppliers and vendors ship to Argentina no-problems, some just won't ship internationally. This is a pain as we -Argentinean Vapers- cannot get access to many many liquids which are really looking forward to trying...
Anyway, thing is... I was wondering if any of you would be interested in sending over a sort of "American Classics - Sample Pack", which basically should include: Most of BWB's classic flavors; many other "classic" ones; I mean: The most popular in ECF in general; also the latest "cool and pop" as Dark and Mellow (vapor......com) and others.
This way we could get to sample most/ many of them and could figure which we like, so eventually we could manage to get e-liquids here, which is tricky per se; just not that many... This would really simplify things for us.
If any of you is willing to help us out PM me...
Basically we would do Paypal in advance to the purchase (which we would arrange beforehand...) and you should re-label bottles and follow a few shipping instructions (so that the -totally biased- local ban is no problem!), very easy though. Just that, and OF COURSE we would be more than willing to compensate you by means of some extra cash for you to help yourself to some of the e-liquids !!! =)
Even though many ecig suppliers and vendors ship to Argentina no-problems, some just won't ship internationally. This is a pain as we -Argentinean Vapers- cannot get access to many many liquids which are really looking forward to trying...
Anyway, thing is... I was wondering if any of you would be interested in sending over a sort of "American Classics - Sample Pack", which basically should include: Most of BWB's classic flavors; many other "classic" ones; I mean: The most popular in ECF in general; also the latest "cool and pop" as Dark and Mellow (vapor......com) and others.
This way we could get to sample most/ many of them and could figure which we like, so eventually we could manage to get e-liquids here, which is tricky per se; just not that many... This would really simplify things for us.
If any of you is willing to help us out PM me...
Basically we would do Paypal in advance to the purchase (which we would arrange beforehand...) and you should re-label bottles and follow a few shipping instructions (so that the -totally biased- local ban is no problem!), very easy though. Just that, and OF COURSE we would be more than willing to compensate you by means of some extra cash for you to help yourself to some of the e-liquids !!! =)
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