The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

[billherbst]

Below is the most current update of the rankings and category groups. Please keep in mind that these rankings are just my opinion---your taste buds and nose may not sing to your brain like mine do to my brain.

RY4 Rankings (includes RY4-variants)

#1-10…..Superlative, Nectar of the Gods
#11-20.…Very Good, like fine wine
#21-30...Good, well worth vaping
#31-40...OK, decent in a pinch
#41-49...So-So, but wouldn't be my choice
#50-52.…My least favorites


1. Janty RY4
2. Ikenvape IKV RY4 Gold, PG Blend
3. Alien Visions Raf-a-licious
4. VapeRite Organic VR4
5. PrimeVaping PV4
6. HealthCabin Dekang RY4
7. VaporTalk Dulcis
8. Bloog/Volt RY4
9. Want2Vape RY4
10. Mom&PopVaporShop RY4

11. Moondrop RY42
12. ESCI Toasted Toffee tobacco Kick juice
13. VaporStation VS4
14. ValueVapor Dekang RY3
15. GoodProphets Keemer RY3 VG
16. LiquidXpress Taboo
17. Esmoke4Life Riskee Yuice
18. ElixirLiquid RY4
19. Sweet-Vapes RY4
20. GoodProphets Keemer RY4 VG

21. BackwoodsBrew RY4
22. NiteLiteVapor Renegade RY4
23. CopperCreek Voodoo
24. ECBlend Ruyan 4 (lite recipe)
25. QuickNicVapor RY4
26. Vixen Vapors RY4
27. VapeRite RY4
28. ValueVapor Dekang RY1-2
29. Liberty-Flights Hangsen RY1-4
30. KalamazooVaporShop RY4

31. EliteVaporworks RY4
32. GoodEJuice RY4
33. TheVaporRoom Ginger's RY4
34. VapeDoctor RY4
35. GourmetVapor RY4
36. VaporStation RY4
37. KickBassVapor RY4
38. TopShelf RY4
39. SmokeForPennys RY4
40. JooglerJuice Joogler's Blend

41. Want2Vape Rock Star
42. CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
43. Halo Tribeca
44. AltSmoke RY4
45. HighCaliber Our 4
46. VapeMasters R4
47. FreedomSmokeUSA RY4
48. HoneyvilleVapor RY4
49. AwesomeVapor RY4
50. Mist-Stix RY4

51. VoidMist RY4 (all 3 versions as a group)
52. Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4
53. BlueMistVaping RY4
54. FlavourArt oRYental 4


Category Groups

Stronger Tobacco (less sweet)
2. Ikenvape IKV RY4 Gold, PG Blend
6. HealthCabin Dekang RY4
7. VaporTalk Dulcis
10. Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
11. Moondrop RY42
13. VaporStation VS4
15. Esmoke4Life Riskee Yuice
17. Sweet-Vapes RY4
20. GoodProphets Keemer RY4 VG
21. BackwoodsBrew RY4
22. NiteLiteVapor Renegade RY4
27. VapeRite RY4
29. Liberty-Flights Hangsen RY1-4
34. TheVaporRoom Ginger's RY4

Dessert (more sweet)
1. Janty RY4
8. Bloog/Volt RY4
10. Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
25. QuickNicVapor RY4
26. Vixen Vapors RY4
29. Liberty-Flights Hangsen RY4
30. KalamazooVaporShop RY4
32. GoodEJuice RY4
34. VapeDoctor RY4
37. KickBassVapor RY4
38. TopShelf RY4
39. SmokeForPennys RY4
42. CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
45. HighCaliber Our 4
51. VoidMist RY4 (all 3 versions as a group)
52. Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4
xx. nHaler RY4 (unranked)

Sweet & Sour
1. Janty RY4
3. Alien Visions Raf-a-licious
12. ESCI Toasted Toffee Tobacco Kick Juice

Nutty
2. Ikenvape IKV RY4 Gold, PG Blend
7. VaporTalk Dulcis
16. LiquidXpress Taboo
17. ElixirLiquid RY4
25. QuickNicVapor RY4
27. VapeRite RY4
30. KalamazooVaporShop RY4

Caramel Rich
4. VapeRite Organic VR4
5. PrimeVaping PV4
6. Want2Vape RY4
10. Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
11. Moondrop RY42
15. GoodProphets Keemer RY3 VG
16. LiquidXpress Taboo
23. CopperCreek Voodoo
26. Vixen Vapors RY4
31. EliteVaporworks RY4
32. GoodEJuice RY4
35. GourmetVapor RY4
37. KickBassVapor RY4
38. TopShelf RY4
42. CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
51. VoidMist RY4 (all 3 versions as a group)
52. Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4
xx. nHaler RY4 (unranked)

Vanilla Rich
5. PrimeVaping PV4
19. Sweet-Vapes RY4
21. BackwoodsBrew RY4
25. QuickNicVapor RY4
40. JooglerJuice Joogler's Blend
42. CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
46. FreedomSmokeUSA RY4
51. VoidMist RY4 Version 3

Liqueur
21. BackwoodsBrew RY4
22. QuickNicVapor RY4
26. Vixen Vapors RY4

Balanced/Blended
1. Janty RY4 Elixir
3. Alien Visions Raf-a-licious
5. PrimeVaping PV4
6. HealthCabin Dekang RY4
7. VaporTalk Dulcis
8. Bloog/Volt RY4
13. VaporStation VS4
18. ElixirLiquid RY4
20. GoodProphets Keemer RY4 VG
24. ECBlend Ruyan 4 (lite recipe)
27. VapeRite RY4
29. Liberty-Flights Hangsen RY1-4
30. KalamazooVaporShop RY4
31. EliteVaporworks RY4
32. GoodEJuice RY4
36. VaporStation RY4
39. SmokeForPennys RY4
42. CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
44. Halo Tribeca
49. AwesomeVapor RY4

Variants (non-typical)
3. Alien Visions Raf-a-licious
4. VapeRite Organic VR4
10. Mom&PopVaporShop RY4
11. Moondrop RY42
21. BackwoodsBrew RY4
23. CopperCreek Voodoo
29. Liberty-Flights Hangsen RY1
33. TheVaporRoom Ginger's RY4
37. KickBassVapor RY4
40. JooglerJuice Joogler's Blend
41. Want2Vape Rock Star
42. CopperCreek Twisted Tobacco
43. Halo Tribeca
45. HighCaliber Our 4
47. FreedomSmokeUSA RY4
51. VoidMist RY4 (all 3 versions as a group)
52. Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4

So-So (undistinguished)
49. Mist-Stix RY4
51. VoidMist RY4 (all 3 versions as a group)
52. Vapure VY4/Liberty-Flights LF4

Bizarre (just plain weird)
53. BlueMistVaping RY4
54. FlavourArt oRYental 4

 

[fforest]

Below is a list of my "daily juices"---the liquids I currently vape every day or nearly so, along with the vendors who sell them---my personal "Top 40" or thereabouts. I post this in the hope that knowing what juices I like in general (outside the specific realm of RY4s) might give people who read this thread a better idea of the warp and woof of my particular palate, to more accurately assess the RY4 rankings for themselves. Obviously, my rankings are more useful if your tastes and mine lean in a similar direction. Conversely, the rankings are probably bogus for you if our preferences in juice differ markedly.

Like the Big RY4 List Rankings, this little herd of daily vapes changes often. I'm going through a "coffee phase" right now, so the list has seven coffee juices. Two months ago that number was only two. Next month it might be down to four or even two again. Three juices I vape daily are RY4-variants that also appear on the Big RY4 List.

No individual rankings here, just groups by type listed alphabetically. "DIY" after a vendor's name means that I buy the vendor's custom flavoring concentrate for that specific juice and mix it myself with nic liquid and PG/VG. "DIY" with no vendor means I make it from scratch, using flavors from any of the common suppliers (Perfumer's Apprentice, LorAnn, Capella, etc.).

Tobacco
10Forty (mom&popvaporshop)
Black and Tan (cloudsofvapor)
Boba's Bounty (alienvisions)
Bounty Hunter Tobacco (nitelitevapor)
Casablanca (backwoodsbrew)
Frisco (vaporstation)
Honey Tobacco (Organic) (vaperite)
House Blend (coppercreek)
Hunter's Blend (backwoodsbrew)
Kentucky Premium Blend (vermillionriver)
Kentucky Vanilla Blend (vermillionriver)
Line Rider (nitelitevapor)
Managua (want2vape)
Natural Tobacco (primevaping)
Nostalgia (primevaping)
Raf-a-licious (alienvisions)
Rich Roasted Velvet Tobacco (gourmetvapor)
Straight Up Caramel (moondrop)
Tabak Especial (want2vape)
Toasted Toffee Kick Juice (ecsi/diy)
Tobacco Blend (diy)
Voodoo (coppercreek)
VR4 Organic (vaperite)

Coffee
Café Mocha (backwoodsbrew)
Cappuccino (coppercreek)
Cappuccino (backwoodsbrew)
Capparillo Café Latte (nitelitevapor)
Coffee (coppercreek)
Creamy Espresso (want2vape/diy)
Espresso (backwoodsbrew)

Sweets/Fruit\
Caramel Swirl (want2vape/diy)
Crème Brûlée (want2vape/diy)
EcoBerry (want2vape/diy)
Peanut Butter Cup (want2vape/diy)
St. Louis Gooey Butter Cake (vapealicious)
Strawberry (primevaping)
Strawberry Cheesecake (primevaping or deejstuff)
Strawberry Waffle (diy)
Tiger's Blood (diy)

Billherbst I like this list of your "daily juices"..I will be trying some of these..I bet you are tired of rating things by now.
BUT if you you had to pick your very TOP TOP picks from these 3 categories what would they be??
The only one I have tried is Frisco (vaporstation) on your recommendation a while ago,I like it a lot.
I just do not have the money to try every thing.Thanks

 

[billherbst]

I like this list of your "daily juices". I will be trying some of these. I bet you are tired of rating things by now. BUT if you you had to pick your very TOP TOP picks from these 3 categories what would they be?? The only one I have tried is Frisco (vaporstation) on your recommendation a while ago, I like it a lot. I just do not have the money to try everything. Thanks

fforest,

Sure. Happy to do so (because it's easy). The winners are:

Tobacco: Bounty Hunter (NiteLiteVapor)---by a mile. My #1 all-time favorite juice in any category. The recently deceased and now lamented Vape TV VG version (95%VG) of Bounty Hunter was the best, but the 65/35 PG/VG blend regular version is still fantastic and sporadically available when Gene can keep it in stock for more than an hour (buy a lot whenever you can). Also wins Most Addictively Satisfying Juice Award.

Coffee: Café Mocha (BackwoodsBrew)---unavailable and apparently not coming back, so instead... (tie) Capparillo Café Latte from NiteLiteVapor and Coffee from CopperCreek.

Sweet Mixer: Crème Brûlée (Want2Vape)---mostly ethyl maltol with just a hint of caramel. Improves any juice that needs a bit of sweetening or softening.

Dessert: St. Louis Gooey Butter Cake (Vape-a-licious)---amazing. To die for.

Fruit: Strawberry (PrimeVaping)---tastes like wild strawberries at the peak of ripeness picked and eaten right off the vine---tart and sweet, but not too much of either.


Note: I'm currently having a love affair with Organic Kona Coffee Milkshake (VirginVapor), but it's too new to be a favorite for sure yet. Takes time to know whether a yummy new juice is just a one-night stand or a viable long-term relationship.

 

[passerbyeus]

Alien Visions Raf-a-licious is great stuff makes me cough and one of my other fav juices makes me cough also sucks lol

 

[Sa Da Tay]

As a newbie I appreciate your extensive reviews/thread very much. I'm curious though: without going through all 89 pages here (which I'll probably get to at some point), I noticed that BackwoodsBrew RY4 dropped from top billing on page 1 to number 21 on this last page. Is that entirely due to new juices you tried in the interim or is there some issue/change in their recipe?

 

[thehangdude]

I know bill will answer you in short order, but he kind of fell out of love with BWB's flavors. That said, the whole top thirty (even more) are very good (to him). Some of my favorites are in the bottom 20. I really like Joogler and Top Shelf and KBV.

What you need to go by is what you like in a RY4. Do you like heavy caramel? Do you prefer a sweet vanilla? Or are you looking for a rich tobacco? The ratings would be different for any two vapers, and often the same vaper on different days.

Use the ratings as a guide. They are written in pencil.

 

[Sa Da Tay]

Thanks hangdude. I suspected that was the case and I'm well aware of subjectivity in these ratings. As you stated, each RY4 has its own flavor balance; I think for that reason, bill's flavor categorizations are even more helpful than the actual straight ratings. I'm looking forward to finding my favs

 

[billherbst]

Sa Da Tay,

thehangdude understands and has it exactly right. I started out ranking RY4s on a whim, but fairly early on decided that any ranking list was essentially bogus, so I switched to the Group Categories. Some folks really liked the rankings, however---you know, the drama of a beauty pageant or horse race as to who will win, come in second, etc.---and asked me to keep them, so I've continued to use both systems---rankings and categories. Even I don't agree with my own early rankings, however, since my tastes change over time. The group categories are much more reliable as a guide to what you might buy. Shoot, I've read posts on ECF by people who love oRYental 4, which I personally regard as dreadful swill and have placed dead last. Are those people wrong? Nope. It's all personal preference---the only person you have to please is yourself. If you like a certain juice, then it's a winner.

As for BWB RY4, it was #1 on the original list for two reasons: 1. my fond history with it (BWB RY4 was my favorite juice for about the first six months of my vaping), and 2. its overwhelming popularity. The fact that you couldn't even buy it most of the time and that it would sell out on the BWB site within hours of being restocked was proof of that. As the Big RY4 Roundup thread went on, however, the rankings were based more and more on my palate, rather than on my estimation of a juice's popularity. These days I rank RY4s based entirely on my own reaction.

As those changes in my approach to the rankings gradually occurred, I discovered that I wasn't as thrilled by BWB RY4 as I had been last year. In addition, "new" RY4s that I liked better kept being added to the list. So, BWB has steadily declined in the rankings. Now it's #21, but so what? If you love it, it's #1 on your list.

 

[fforest]

Thanks a lot Billherbst ..Forest

fforest,

Sure. Happy to do so (because it's easy). The winners are:

Tobacco: Bounty Hunter (NiteLiteVapor)---by a mile. My #1 all-time favorite juice in any category. The recently deceased and now lamented Vape TV VG version (95%VG) of Bounty Hunter was the best, but the 65/35 PG/VG blend regular version is still fantastic and sporadically available when Gene can keep it in stock for more than an hour (buy a lot whenever you can). Also wins Most Addictively Satisfying Juice Award.

Coffee: Café Mocha (BackwoodsBrew)---unavailable and apparently not coming back, so instead... (tie) Capparillo Café Latte from NiteLiteVapor and Coffee from CopperCreek.

Sweet Mixer: Crème Brûlée (Want2Vape)---mostly ethyl maltol with just a hint of caramel. Improves any juice that needs a bit of sweetening or softening.

Dessert: St. Louis Gooey Butter Cake (Vape-a-licious)---amazing. To die for.

Fruit: Strawberry (PrimeVaping)---tastes like wild strawberries at the peak of ripeness picked and eaten right off the vine---tart and sweet, but not too much of either.


Note: I'm currently having a love affair with Organic Kona Coffee Milkshake (VirginVapor), but it's too new to be a favorite for sure yet. Takes time to know whether a yummy new juice is just a one-night stand or a viable long-term relationship.

 

[samwest]

I attribute the end of my search for an RY4 I could vape all day to billherbst (almost gave up). I'm not found of sweet vapes and wanted a tobacco flavor; Ikenvape RY4 gold fit the bill perfectly. I tried 3 others in the same catagory when IKV's site went down and thought them to be just meh. I really hate buying juice just to try out but also hate having all my eggs in one, or two baskets so to speak. I've got a 250 ml erlinmeyer flask full of different RY4's I've bought and ended up dumping into it. One day that flask may taste like an all day vape and I'll be set for awhile. An original juice that cannot be duplicated because I don't remember all the crap I put in it.

 

[Ericfixit]

I am so surprised that My Freedom Smokes is not on the list (not My freedom smokes usa) They have been my go to place for RY4 for almost 2 years. IMHO the best. They might have been mentioned but I did not see them.

 

[thehangdude]

I am so surprised that My Freedom Smokes is not on the list (not My freedom smokes usa) They have been my go to place for RY4 for almost 2 years. IMHO the best. They might have been mentioned but I did not see them.

Give us your review on them. It may cause us to try them out. Is it nutty? more caramel? sweet? Which other one does it compare to (if you've had any similar flavors)?

 

[thehangdude]

E-Liquid 50ML 26MG

Anybody know if Rocky Mountain Vapor is any good? Is it DeKang?
They got in some 26mg juice in 10ml and 50ml. The 50ml are $15 with free shipping.
They have RY4, so I was wondering.

 

[Str8V8ping]

Someone really needs to put greenhouseones ry4 on the list . I love it .I find it even better than BWB's ry4 . Rich toasted caramel with a hint of cotton candy . Great throat hit and vapor . It smells so good a put a drop on my clothes while im vaping it . lol .

 

[billherbst]

I am so surprised that My Freedom Smokes is not on the list.

Someone really needs to put greenhouseones ry4 on the list.

Eric and Str8V8ping,

Look guys, there are a zillion RY4s out there. Almost every vendor sells one. I can't afford to buy and review all of them just so you can see your favorite RY4 on the list.

Here's how it works: The Big List (with rankings) is mine. To get on it, I have to review and rank a specific RY4 or RY4-variant. If you really want to see a specific RY4 on the list, mail me a small sample bottle of it. My home address has been posted on the thread, but you can also PM me to get it. I will then review the sample and add it to the list with my personal ranking. In addition, I'll include it in whatever Category Groups I think apply.

The Category Groups are public. If you like a particular RY4, please post a review of it on this thread. Then PM me with the Category Groups that you feel apply for that juice. I'll add it under the relevant categories.

 

[wigglr]

E-Liquid 50ML 26MG

Anybody know if Rocky Mountain Vapor is any good? Is it DeKang?
They got in some 26mg juice in 10ml and 50ml. The 50ml are $15 with free shipping.
They have RY4, so I was wondering.

10 ml... 50 ml... price... and from the names of the other juice on the site it seems Dekang (or at least from China)

 

[thehangdude]

Here is some GP4 from Good Prophets. 10ml of 12mg or 24mg for only $1.49 (cheap shipping too).

GP Tobacco Flavors

Anybody tried this?
ps. They don't use Box Elder.
pps. This is not the Keemer from GP.

 

[billherbst]

Here is some GP4 from Good Prophets. 10ml of 12mg or 24mg for only $1.49 (cheap shipping too). Anybody tried this?

hangdude,

Funny you should mention that sale. I just ordered 3 flavors of the new GP all-VG made-in-USA tobaccos---GP-TAB, Tobacco, and GP4. I even went funny in the head and ordered three 10ml bottles of the GP4. Go figure. So, I'll be reviewing it and will add it to the Rankings/Categories list.

The other weird thing that's been happening is that I like the RY4 from Mom&PopVaporShop so much that I've been vaping it every day. Jeez, what a great dessert RY4! The Tobacco Absolute cedar-woody base counterbalances the sweetness (is there a hint of maple in there too?) very nicely and makes the juice sing to my taste buds. That got me to wondering what other RY4s might be similar, and I thought, "Dulcis." Since I keep about half the RY4s on the Big List loaded into dual-coil, resurrector, or Boge LR cartos for comparison testing, I got out the Dulcis dual-coil and vaped some. My reaction was, "No, this isn't really like Mom&Pop RY4, it's a sweeter version of the Chinese-style RY4s, but boy, I forgot how good Dulcis is!"

Now I'm vaping both.

Might other RY4s worm their way back into my daily vapes? I think I'll test-vape many of the RY4s from the bottom half of the list. Who knows? The Rankings might be in for a major reshuffling (or maybe not...). Time will tell.

 

[HeatherFL]

I'm excited, thanks a lot for the extensive list! I love Volts RY4 so much and have been trying other
RY4s thinking I will find more to love but now have like 4 bottles of various kinds I'm going to PIF because I find them gross. Your ranking gives me a better idea of what to try now.

 

[passerbyeus]

any word on Totally Wicked RY4-3?