The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

[billherbst]

This "RY4 Midnight" (my name, not his) is very likely to be the first "boutique" RY4 I order.

midfi,

By all means, let us know what you think after it arrives. Great term, by the way: "boutique" RY4. I'm definitely going to steal that one. LOL. Good way to further distinguish within the general category of custom American-made RY4s. Some are just custom; others are boutique. Yeah!

 

[passerbyeus]

So I got my Mountain Oak Vapors Classic CountRY4
in and I am in the middle road with it just waiting for the right car to drive close enough to make me decide which side to go with it. The caramel is good but is that all I am tasting here.... vanilla yes,,but then maybe a nut, something is diffently strong that almost reminds me of a pine yes pine, as I break and start dripping the MOV Gold which is the honey tobacco I am dreaming the RY4 was like that with out the honey in it, how could there be so much difference if they added just vanilla and caramel in place of the honey, now that would be a great vape, with that there is something in the RY4 that just does not do it for me. I really do not think this is a smooth and mild vape that would be the MOV Gold, at this time it its like walking into a room that has been dusted with pinsole. On with my search!!!!



forward ,,,I have tried the Midnight from stvapor.com is has that old school spicy peppery taste to it, not sure caramel and vanilla could save it....

I would like to add this is my taste and experience and even though my taste seems to bring something else there doesnt mean there is.

 

[billherbst]

The 11ml bottle of Vapor..... OuR-Y4 up for review today was purchased by ECF member Jglenellen, who had it shipped to me directly from Vapor..... (thanks, Jg!).

The golden-colored liquid is 24mg nic strength in a 70PG/30VG base blend that has a slightly thicker viscosity than I’d think typical for that ratio. Not carto-unfriendly thick, by any means, but very far from the watery consistency of all-PG. 70/30 is generally considered a good ratio to balance flavor, throat hit, and vapor production. I sampled OuR-Y4 carto-loaded into a 2.0 ohm Boge LR powered by a Madvapes VV box providing 4.3 loaded volts, for a power output of 9.2 watts, which is now my standard carto set-up for testing RY4s.

Vapor.....’s on-site description of OuR-Y4 states: “It’s RY4… but it’s our RY4. A new twist on a classic flavor.” With that in mind, I expected another in the rapidly growing line-up of custom American RY4s that push the envelope of the RY4 flavor profile. Surprisingly, however, my first hit of OuR-Y4 challenged that expectation. This juice is among the relatively small number of custom American-made RY4s that tread the line between the classic RY4 flavor profile and the increasingly common custom approach of anything goes. This places it in good company with RY4s such as Halo Tribeca and CrystalELiquid RY4.

The first impression that registered upon inhale was an aura of sourness. By itself, that sourness might have been too much, but a contrasting sweetness immediately began to arise as the vapor entered my lungs and continued to swell during exhale. This contrast of sour-sweet is a trait of only a few RY4s, most notably Janty Classic/Elixir, as well as the now-discontinued AVE Raf-a-licious, and ParkesVaping PV4. It’s a pairing of opposite flavor qualities that both our esteemed British correspondent Zombitedesade and I find delicious.

The other trait that links this juice to classic RY4s is its well-blended nature. The vaping experience of OuR-Y4 (for me, at least) is unified. Individual flavor components contribute to the overall mix, but don’t stand out distinctly on their own. That’s not inherently good or bad, since RY4s with quite separate individual flavors can be yummy, providing recognizable hits of tobacco, caramel, and vanilla, while RY4s with an integrated flavor profile can end up sort of meh. You know, a bit mushy and nondescript, like a stew that’s been cooked too long. Here, however, the unity of overall flavor is quite pleasing.

The caveat to this review is that I haven’t compared OuR-Y4 to, say, 15 or 20 other RY4s. Comparison testing has become a major element in my evaluations of RY4s, but I don’t have time or energy for that today. So, my grade for OuR-Y4 will be tentative, with a second look and possible re-assessment to come later.

No e-liquid ever made pleases everyone. Taste buds are subjective, and the marketplace is fickle. Some folks won’t like OuR-Y4, for any of a thousand reasons. But a lot of vapers will like it, I think. Until such a time as I have the chance and inclination to compare OuR-Y4 head-to-head with a whole gaggle of other RY4s, I give it a grade of B+.

Link to purchase:

Vapor..... OuR-Y4

 

[passerbyeus]

Thanks for that review Bill , taste is subject here I would so agree, I really like the sour in Raf but cant take it in the Janty where the sour hits hard right at the end for me. How would you rate the Our-Y4 sour compaired to those two?

 

[billherbst]

Thanks for that review Bill , taste is subject here I would so agree, I really like the sour in Raf but cant take it in the Janty where the sour hits hard right at the end for me. How would you rate the sour compaired to those two?

Three different juices; three different sours.

Janty hits me with simultaneous sweet and sour that lasts right through the exhale, plus the sour is sharp and pointed.
OuR-Y4 starts out sour on inhale, then gradually morphs from sour into sweet, plus the sour is soft and round.
Raf-a-licious is definitely the least sour of the three, more a hint or tease than a bang, plus it's also the least sweet.

If you really like sweet & sour, Janty's your RY4.
If you appreciate an RY4 that's subtly sour, go with Raf.
If you want an RY4 that changes flavors right inside you, you'll love OuR-Y4.

That little comparison test makes me want to change OuR-Y4's grade from B+ to A-.

 

[passerbyeus]

That has to be the best comparison I have ever read I am so into having a taste of Vapor............. "changes flavors right inside you " great stuff!!! With free shipping , that Vapor..... may be cheap but sounds like a keeper.

 

[JeffGlenellen]

The 11ml bottle of Vapor..... OuR-Y4 up for review today was purchased by ECF member Jglenellen, who had it shipped to me directly from Vapor..... (thanks, Jg!).

The golden-colored liquid is 24mg nic strength in a 70PG/30VG base blend that has a slightly thicker viscosity than I’d think typical for that ratio. Not carto-unfriendly thick, by any means, but very far from the watery consistency of all-PG. 70/30 is generally considered a good ratio to balance flavor, throat hit, and vapor production. I sampled OuR-Y4 carto-loaded into a 2.0 ohm Boge LR powered by a Madvapes VV box providing 4.3 loaded volts, for a power output of 9.2 watts, which is now my standard carto set-up for testing RY4s.

Vapor.....’s on-site description of OuR-Y4 states: “It’s RY4… but it’s our RY4. A new twist on a classic flavor.” With that in mind, I expected another in the rapidly growing line-up of custom American RY4s that push the envelope of the RY4 flavor profile. Surprisingly, however, my first hit of OuR-Y4 challenged that expectation. This juice is among the relatively small number of custom American-made RY4s that tread the line between the classic RY4 flavor profile and the increasingly common custom approach of anything goes. This places it in good company with RY4s such as Halo Tribeca and CrystalELiquid RY4.

The first impression that registered upon inhale was an aura of sourness. By itself, that sourness might have been too much, but a contrasting sweetness immediately began to arise as the vapor entered my lungs and continued to swell during exhale. This contrast of sour-sweet is a trait of only a few RY4s, most notably Janty Classic/Elixir, as well as the now-discontinued AVE Raf-a-licious, and ParkesVaping PV4. It’s a pairing of opposite flavor qualities that both our esteemed British correspondent Zombitedesade and I find delicious.

The other trait that links this juice to classic RY4s is its well-blended nature. The vaping experience of OuR-Y4 (for me, at least) is unified. Individual flavor components contribute to the overall mix, but don’t stand out distinctly on their own. That’s not inherently good or bad, since RY4s with quite separate individual flavors can be yummy, providing recognizable hits of tobacco, caramel, and vanilla, while RY4s with an integrated flavor profile can end up sort of meh. You know, a bit mushy and nondescript, like a stew that’s been cooked too long. Here, however, the unity of overall flavor is quite pleasing.

The caveat to this review is that I haven’t compared OuR-Y4 to, say, 15 or 20 other RY4s. Comparison testing has become a major element in my evaluations of RY4s, but I don’t have time or energy for that today. So, my grade for OuR-Y4 will be tentative, with a second look and possible re-assessment to come later.

No e-liquid ever made pleases everyone. Taste buds are subjective, and the marketplace is fickle. Some folks won’t like OuR-Y4, for any of a thousand reasons. But a lot of vapers will like it, I think. Until such a time as I have the chance and inclination to compare OuR-Y4 head-to-head with a whole gaggle of other RY4s, I give it a grade of B+.

Link to purchase:

Vapor..... OuR-Y4

Happy to add another good RY4 to the list I have to agree about the comparisons to Janty and Raf,even reminded me a bit of Iken Vape's version as well,although the flavor was a bit muted in comparison to your bottle because I have the 70 vg version. On a side note,Vapor.....'s Cracked flavor is outstanding as well as the sample they sent me of one called Oba Oba. The Cracked reminds me of a bit sweeter version of EcoPure Rich if you're familiar with that juice. I could only imagine if I had gotten these bottles in 70pg like I intended they would be even better

 

[Boognish]

I received the PG-version of Ikenvape RY4 Gold in the mail today and have compared it head-to-head with the VG-version I reviewed originally.

The PG-blend (70%PG/30%VG) is indeed ever-so-slightly sweeter and more flavorful than the VG-blend (proportions reversed). Also, the brightness is toned down just a tad in the PG-blend, with a bit more depth. Though subtle, the overall improvement is significant to me. As a result, IKV RY4 Gold moves upward in my rankings---catapulting ahead of the PrimeVaping and Want2Vape RY4s, which fall to #5 and #6 respectively, and claiming dual ownership of the #3 spot in a dead-heat, photo-finish tie with Vaperite VR4.

In the PG-blend, Ikenvape RY4 Gold is very, very good juice. Truly delicious. Sorry I couldn't get the PG-version for the original review, but better late than never...

I ordered 30ml each of IKV ry4 gold pg and vg quite some time ago. I did slack a bit at getting my money order in the mail. Maybe the pending order status mixed with the fact that IKV has been closed for restructuring their site during this time caused my order to be overlooked. I sent an email to ensure my money order wasn't lost. Isaac sent me such a nice email apologizing for the mix up even though no apology was needed. Then he called me personally and told me he had doubled my order and would ship it right away. So I have 60ml of each ry4 gold on the way. Seriously, one of the nicest guys in the business.

 

[wigglr]

Isaac really is great

 

[billherbst]

The 6ml bottle of RY4 Asian flavoring by The Perfumer's Apprentice that I purchased from onestopdiyshop cost $1.92 (including shipping). Using a 20% mix ratio (which seems about right for this flavoring), that 6ml bottle of flavoring will make a 30mls of diy RY4 Asian liquid.

I mixed up a 7ml bottle of RY4 Asian diy juice using 21% flavoring concentrate (30 drops), 4mls of 35mg/ml liquid nicotine, and 1.5 ml of VG. The resulting diy liquid is about 22mg nic strength in a base blend of 80/20 PG/VG. I tested the juice by atty-dripping into a Cisco-spec 2.0 ohm LR306 powered by a Madvapes VV box running at 4.3 loaded volts for a power output of 9.2 watts.

I think I’ve tried every formulation of RY4 flavoring that Perfumer’s Apprentice has sold---RY4 Type, RY4 Exclusive, RY4 Double, and now RY4 Asian. Linda's first attempt, RY4 Type flavoring, was dreadful to me---overwhelmingly floral and perfumey. RY4 Exclusive was somewhat improved, but nothing to write home about. The recent RY4 Double flavoring is pretty darn good as a custom RY4. But I am happy to report that Linda has nailed it with RY4 Asian, her brand-new version of a classic Chinese recipe for RY4.

The juice I made is bright, sparkly, and flavorful. The percentage of flavors isn’t equal between tobacco, caramel, and vanilla, but that reflects the classic RY4 flavor profile. Caramel leads, tobacco follows, and vanilla is less an obvious flavor component than a modifying aura. This is a sweet RY4, but you could alter that with any flavoring you like: add a bit more of any tobacco flavoring/extract to cut the sweetness and jack up the tobacco (which I think I’ll do with some burley or turkish), add a little vanilla flavoring to make the juice smoother or more creamy, add more caramel if you wish (although I personally wouldn’t choose to increase the caramel with this flavoring).

The juice has no nuttiness, but again, that can be changed with a small amount of any nut flavor you like---I imagine this would be very good for nutty RY4 lovers with some hazelnut or pecan. If you like your RY4 subtle, use less of the flavoring concentrate in your mix (say, 10-13%). If you prefer intensely flavored in-your-face juice, mix at 30%. While RY4 Asian flavoring is very tasty by itself with nothing further added (other than PG/VG and liquid nic, of course), you’re in charge and can control or modify every variable.

As with all diy juices, vapor production and throat hit can be custom-tailored to your liking by altering the nic content, PG/VG base ratio, and the power supplied by your hardware. My 80/20 blend at 22mg nic strength gave easily adequate vapor and substantial throat hit.

Of all the stand-alone RY4 concentrates I’ve tried, this is the one that makes me sit up and take notice. Other RY4 flavorings have their positive qualities, but RY4 Asian fills an important niche by providing a concentrate that accurately emulates classic Chinese RY4s. And, on the bottom line, a 30ml bottle of RY4 Asian flavoring will make 150mls of diy classic RY4 for around $15, give or take a buck or two. Heck of a deal. It might also be good for rescuing those retail RY4 juices that turn out to be less-than-pleasing to your palate. Just doctor 'em up with some RY4 Asian.

I give TPA’s RY4 Asian flavoring a grade of B+.

The link below is to TPA's site, but RY4 Asian can be purchased from a number of different vendors who stock diy flavorings.

Perfumers Apprentice - RY4 Asian Flavor

 

[sandybeach]

The 6ml bottle of RY4 Asian flavoring by The Perfumer's Apprentice that I purchased from onestopdiyshop cost $1.92 (including shipping). Using a 20% mix ratio (which seems about right for this flavoring), that 6ml bottle of flavoring will make a 30mls of diy RY4 Asian liquid.

I mixed up a 7ml bottle of RY4 Asian diy juice using 21% flavoring concentrate (30 drops), 4mls of 35mg/ml liquid nicotine, and 1.5 ml of VG. The resulting diy liquid is about 22mg nic strength in a base blend of 80/20 PG/VG. I tested the juice by atty-dripping into a Cisco-spec 2.0 ohm LR306 powered by a Madvapes VV box running at 4.3 loaded volts for a power output of 9.2 watts.

I think I’ve tried every formulation of RY4 flavoring that Perfumer’s Apprentice has sold---RY4 Type, RY4 Exclusive, RY4 Double, and now RY4 Asian. Linda's first attempt, RY4 Type flavoring, was dreadful to me---overwhelmingly floral and perfumey. RY4 Exclusive was somewhat improved, but nothing to write home about. The recent RY4 Double flavoring is pretty darn good as a custom RY4. But I am happy to report that Linda has nailed it with RY4 Asian, her brand-new version of a classic Chinese recipe for RY4.

The juice I made is bright, sparkly, and flavorful. The percentage of flavors isn’t equal between tobacco, caramel, and vanilla, but that reflects the classic RY4 flavor profile. Caramel leads, tobacco follows, and vanilla is less an obvious flavor component than a modifying aura. This is a sweet RY4, but you could alter that with any flavoring you like: add a bit more of any tobacco flavoring/extract to cut the sweetness and jack up the tobacco (which I think I’ll do with some burley or turkish), add a little vanilla flavoring to make the juice smoother or more creamy, add more caramel if you wish (although I personally wouldn’t choose to increase the caramel with this flavoring).

The juice has no nuttiness, but again, that can be changed with a small amount of any nut flavor you like---I imagine this would be very good for nutty RY4 lovers with some hazelnut or pecan. If you like your RY4 subtle, use less of the flavoring concentrate in your mix (say, 10-13%). If you prefer intensely flavored in-your-face juice, mix at 30%. While RY4 Asian flavoring is very tasty by itself with nothing further added (other than PG/VG and liquid nic, of course), you’re in charge and can control or modify every variable.

As with all diy juices, vapor production and throat hit can be custom-tailored to your liking by altering the nic content, PG/VG base ratio, and the power supplied by your hardware. My 80/20 blend at 22mg nic strength gave easily adequate vapor and substantial throat hit.

Of all the stand-alone RY4 concentrates I’ve tried, this is the one that makes me sit up and take notice. Other RY4 flavorings have their positive qualities, but RY4 Asian fills an important niche by providing a concentrate that accurately emulates classic Chinese RY4s. And, on the bottom line, a 30ml bottle of RY4 Asian flavoring will make 150mls of diy classic RY4 for around $15, give or take a buck or two. Heck of a deal. It might also be good for rescuing those retail RY4 juices that turn out to be less-than-pleasing to your palate. Just doctor 'em up with some RY4 Asian.

I give TPA’s RY4 Asian flavoring a grade of B+.

The link below is to TPA's site, but RY4 Asian can be purchased from a number of different vendors who stock diy flavorings.

Perfumers Apprentice - RY4 Asian Flavor

Hey, Night Owl!
That was a good review for me, because I always wondered how DIY works as far as cost effectiveness is. That seems pretty darn cheap considering the cost or PV and VG.

Maybe I'll give it a try one of these days. Do you have any recommendations for other flavors?

I probably don't want to blend -- but maybe.
Sandy

 

[passerbyeus]

Sandy you could mix some up and send it may way to try , I had many epic fails trying to mix my own juice maybe you will have better luck than me.....

Hey, Night Owl!
That was a good review for me, because I always wondered how DIY works as far as cost effectiveness is. That seems pretty darn cheap considering the cost or PV and VG.

Maybe I'll give it a try one of these days. Do you have any recommendations for other flavors?

I probably don't want to blend -- but maybe.
Sandy

 

[sandybeach]

Oy! I'd probably screw it up, too, then!

 

[EleanorR]

I positively know I'd make a disaster of it . . .

My momma always said "Play to your strengths." (Well, actually she never said that, but it's something I believe. If I can't do something properly​, I call in a pro! )

 

[billherbst]

Sandy,

If you have the basic diy ingredients---PG and/or VG, and liquid nicotine---then simple juices are relatively straightforward. Single-flavor fruits can work well even for a novice. Strawberry, apple, peach, banana, etc. And vanilla is a safe, reliable addition to most diy juices. The downside to that is to use flavorings that you really like. To give just one example among many, strawberry flavorings are all over the map---many are artificial-tasting or candy-like. I had to amass a whole bunch of different strawberry flavor concentrates to find the ones that nail the flavor of real, natural strawberry with just the right blend of tart and sweet.

Starting out in diy, less is more. Simpler is better. More complex juices are much more difficult for beginning diy'ers. A juice you hate and won't vape is not cheap no matter how inexpensive the ingredients were. Tobacco blends can be tricky (although I've had great success using Tobacco Extract, which is a natural tobacco flavoring that I like a lot). Multi-flavor dessert recipes can also be challenging to get right.

What's great about TPA RY4 Asian concentrate is that it works nicely as a single-flavoring diy juice. You don't need to add any other flavorings to get a tasty and vapeable RY4 with a classic RY4 flavor profile.The same is true of TPA RY4 Double if you prefer a custom RY4. The only decisions that need to be made are what percentage of flavoring to use (20% is typical with most flavorings), what nic concentration you want, and the final base ratio of PG/VG (which is figured out using fairly simple math or one of the stand-alone diy software calculators if you're math-challenged).

I'm well past the novice stage of diy, but I still try to keep it simple. I tend to leave the amazing flavor combinations and extraordinarily subtle juice recipes to the retail artisan juice-makers. Still, about 1/4 of the juices I vape nowadays are diy.

 

[eLguSo]

This thread's massive.

 

[passerbyeus]

Should be getting Coppers Creek Voo's Broo today and Vapor..... OuR-Y4 ...... I would like to hear some others thoughts on Voo's Broo as a RY4, if anyone has got to try it yet, maybe we could get a special guest today to come and give us a review on it


So it looks like our special guest cant do a "REVIEW" due to the "RULES" , so I tried just to get a better description.




Bill, I know Bobas Bounty is not a RY4 but have a request to hear your ideas about it.

 

[lannister]

Yes big thread.

 

[passerbyeus]

Got my Voo's Broo all I can say if it was not for the tobacco base I would like it, so if you like the tobacco base it would be great...sending mine to the classifieds

 

[jteezy]

Did you get the Vapor ..... Our-Y4? I went ahead and ordered some this morning along with one of their tobacco flavors called #13.