The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)
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Dear Folks from this lovely thread:
Even though many ecig suppliers and vendors ship to Argentina no-problems, some just won't ship internationally. This is a pain as we -Argentinean Vapers- cannot get access to many many liquids which are really looking forward to trying...
Anyway, thing is... I was wondering if any of you would be interested in sending over a sort of "American Classics - Sample Pack", which basically should include: Most of BWB's classic flavors; many other "classic" ones; I mean: The most popular in ECF in general; also the latest "cool and pop" as Dark and Mellow (vapor......com) and others.
This way we could get to sample most/ many of them and could figure which we like, so eventually we could manage to get e-liquids here, which is tricky per se; just not that many... This would really simplify things for us.
If any of you is willing to help us out PM me...
Basically we would do Paypal in advance to the purchase (which we would arrange beforehand...) and you should re-label bottles and follow a few shipping instructions (so that the -totally biased- local ban is no problem!), very easy though. Just that, and OF COURSE we would be more than willing to compensate you by means of some extra cash for you to help yourself to some of the e-liquids !!! =)
Revolver, I empathise. BWB does not ship to my location either. Maybe you could get a retailer to ship in plain bottles with no labels to get around the ban.
Say hi to BA for me. My mom was from Palermo and I used to go there twice a year as a kid. I miss it so much. I am waiting for someone to come out with an "Alfajor"-flavoured E-liquid
Most of the time these companys have "deals" with customs etc
what im trying to say if you havent try just place a little sample order and maybe you get a surprise and your orders just arrive with no problem.
That is quite interesting to me for some reason 
Bill, this is not cheating, it is "NORMAL" in Australia, where all E-liquids are "doublers": double-flavoured liquids meant to be diluted with an equal amount of unflavoured nic juice. (One of my favourite vendors even packages the 10mls of juice in a 30 ml bottle, so no wasted bottles.) As you may know, nicotine is only available in this country in patch, gum, or carcinogenic leaf form.
As someone who has tried both BWB Malty Toffee and HBV English Malt Toffee, I highly prefer the latter. BWB is fairly one dimensional compared to HBV, which just goes on and on. I strongly urge a 10ml bottle purchase next time you shop with them.
That is quite interesting to me for some reason
JimBob, "interesting" is considerably less profane than the word I use for it
I visit my dad in NYC once a year in February, and there were parcels of e-liquid and vape supplies arriving almost daily. Interestingly enough, no issues with customs in either direction. And let me tell you something else: that 24-hour plane trip is a LOT less unpleasant with pvs.But back to the topic at hand: One of my favourite local RY4-type mixes is Del's Ultimate Pipe from juice-who-re .com (remove spaces and hyphens) It is a floral/woody/aromatic tobacco, and features the unusual quality of tasting notably of caramel and maple without any palpable sweetness. It is a marvelous, more-ish blend. Their USA Magic is also an excellent ry4. Not as fragrant, more of a smooth and mild tobacco. This one lends itself well to experimenting with flavours...rum and toasted marshmallow being especially lovely. please don't hate me RY4 purists
Need to say these, today i filled my one of my lines with tribecca to my surprise the color changed to a pretty disturbing one BUT finally the great taste is there, i guess the tropical weather really do wonders with eliquids in short time
to my surprise the color changed to a pretty disturbing one BUT finally the great taste is there, i guess the tropical weather really do wonders with eliquids in short time
Most of the time these companys have "deals" with customs etc
Great news, I'ma try 'em... !!! Could you point me to any; Do you have any to recommend !?
=)
I'm not sure which is worse a 24 hour plane ride or NYC in Feb
SYD to LAX is 13-15 hours, LAX-JFK is 5-7 hours. Of course this does not include the 3.5 hour bus ride from Canberra to Sydney, nor the endless waiting around in airports.
I go in February because that is when airfares are cheapest. My significant other loves extreme cold
The 3ml sample bottle of RY4 I purchased from MountOlympusVapors contains an amber colored eliquid at 24mg nic strength in a 70/30 PG/VG base ratio. Testing was done by atty-dripping into a 1.7 ohm LR306 run at 4.3 volts supplied by a Vector VV for a real-world power of 10.8 watts. Not knowing whether the sample was batch-mixed previously or custom-made-to-order, I let it steep uncapped for four days prior to review.
Here is Erin’s description of MtOly RY4 from the web site ordering page:
Why is this juice different from many other custom RY4s? Because it’s simple, unlike many of the more exotic versions that push the flavor envelope so hard. MtOly RY4 is distinguished by what it leaves out rather than what it adds. This is the back-to-basics-approach: tobacco, caramel, and vanilla. And---for the most part---that approach works well here. The flavors are classic RY4 all the way, but without the brightness and effervescence of the Chinese formulations. No, these are “dog flavors” (as opposed to “cat flavors”); they don’t sneak up on you stealthily, but come right up wagging their tails.
Although the flavors do interact, each is distinct. The caramel and vanilla are smooth, while the tobacco has a sharp bite. It’s not spicy, but a little tangy. Personally, I find the tobacco flavor slightly unusual, but not unpleasant.
This is a custom RY4 for people who like classic and want to keep those flavors, but wish to stretch out a bit.
MtO RY4 grade: B+
Link: Mount Olympus Vapors: RY4
Here is Erin’s description of MtOly RY4 from the web site ordering page:
I always loved the idea of the RY4 flavor... smoky tobacco, sweet caramel and smooth vanilla... but I could not find one without the overpowering fruity flavor I did not like. I worked on this one for a long time, and finally... SUCCESS! MOV4 is a smoky, cigarette-type tobacco with a rich caramel and sweet vanilla flavor, without the strong fruity flavor most RY4s have. MOV4 is thicker than other e-liquids, even though I use my standard 70/30 mix, and it gives Mt O RY4 a more satisfying mouthfeel and thicker vapor.
Either the new generation of vendors is getting very sneaky with their ability to mix flavors subtly, or I’m losing my ability to delineate and describe what I’m tasting. Maybe some of both. MtOly RY4 is custom for sure and stands apart from many of the other RY4s I’ve tasted recently. But then, that’s why we call them “custom.” If they were as similar as Classic RY4s, we might just brand them “American.” We call them Custom RY4s because---as a group---they’re generally eccentrics, each staking out its own flavor turf in RY4 Land. MtOly RY4 deviates a bit from that characteristic eccentricity.
Why is this juice different from many other custom RY4s? Because it’s simple, unlike many of the more exotic versions that push the flavor envelope so hard. MtOly RY4 is distinguished by what it leaves out rather than what it adds. This is the back-to-basics-approach: tobacco, caramel, and vanilla. And---for the most part---that approach works well here. The flavors are classic RY4 all the way, but without the brightness and effervescence of the Chinese formulations. No, these are “dog flavors” (as opposed to “cat flavors”); they don’t sneak up on you stealthily, but come right up wagging their tails.
Although the flavors do interact, each is distinct. The caramel and vanilla are smooth, while the tobacco has a sharp bite. It’s not spicy, but a little tangy. Personally, I find the tobacco flavor slightly unusual, but not unpleasant.
This is a custom RY4 for people who like classic and want to keep those flavors, but wish to stretch out a bit.
MtO RY4 grade: B+
Link: Mount Olympus Vapors: RY4
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Bill your description of mtO its making me go place an order BUT even though you didnt mention any i always ask with tobacco flavors and of course ry4, do you feel any nutty tones ?
thanks
thanks
What a grueling schedule !
SYD to LAX is 13-15 hours, LAX-JFK is 5-7 hours. Of course this does not include the 3.5 hour bus ride from Canberra to Sydney, nor the endless waiting around in airports.
I go in February because that is when airfares are cheapest. My significant other loves extreme cold
I should have mentioned it. Just forgot. No, I didn't get any nuttiness from MtOly RY4. That doesn't mean there is no nut element, just that my palate didn't notice it.
I've gotten around to revisiting Janty Ry4 (Classic) as well as Health Cabin Dekang RY4. These aren't bad, and I can see why they're ranked highly - but the "family" they come from isn't for me. I've had only one other juice with this flavor profile - Altsmoke RY4 - which was ranked low here. It may be that I'm missing the subtlety, but I think it's a comparable enough flavor. A Chinese RY4 flavor, I guess. Seems like I don't like the original Chinese take on RY4 much, nor do I like (at least not a lot of) the darker macerated tobaccos listed here much either.
The 30ml green glass dropper bottle sent to me by Sean at CrystalELiquid for review contains the most transparent niquid I can ever remember seeing in any RY4. Its almost colorless at 24mg nic strength in a fairly thick 50PG/50VG base. Testing was performed in a 2.2 ohm Boge LR carto on a Vector VV set to 4.3 volts, for a power output of 8.4 watts.
I compared RY4 Double Tobacco head-to-head with CrystalELiquids regular RY4. So far as I can tell, this is the same basic recipe and flavor profile as in their earlier regular edition RY4, with the exception of having twice the percentage of tobacco flavoring in the mix, thus RY4 Double Tobacco (duh!).
I was very impressed with the original, which is one of the few (if not the only) American-made RY4 that uses the Classic Chinese RY4 flavor profile. The only significant deviation I could discern from some Classic RY4s (i.e., Janty or Dekang) was that CrystalELiquids version was clearly a dessert vape in its distinct sweetness, closer to VaporTalk Dulcis (which is a Chinese-manufactured liquid, or so I am told). This puts it in good company, since Dulcis remains one of my personal favorite RY4s.
RY4 Double Tobacco has the same quality of sweetness as the regular RY4, but---with twice the tobacco flavoring---the impact of sweetness is diminished in effect. Sweet is relegated to singing back-up harmonies (with its sisters Good Caramel and Nice Vanilla) as Tobacco grabs the lead mike to belt out the melody. This kicked-up RY4 has more tobacco presence, depth, bite, and throat hit. Oh, its still an RY4, and very clearly so---since the caramel and vanilla make their presence felt in the well-blended juice---but tobacco is the star. As far as I can tell, nuts stayed in the dressing room on this one. At least I couldn't find it onstage. Maybe it's still in the studio overdubbing.
I presume the tobacco flavoring to be synthetic, but I dont know that for sure. If it is a synthetic, its a good one, with no off-flavors or weird undertones.
RY4 Double Tobacco successfully straddles the twin markets of Classic versus Custom RY4 vapers. Many of those who like Classic RY4s will also like this one, while some of those who prefer Custom RY4 formulations may find this juice surprisingly satisfying. And, of course, lovers of straight tobacco and RY4 should definitely give this juice a go. You might find that, even if CrystalELiquids new edition cant possibly be the best of both worlds, it holds its own in each realm quite nicely.
Grade: A-
Link: RY4 Double Tobacco
I compared RY4 Double Tobacco head-to-head with CrystalELiquids regular RY4. So far as I can tell, this is the same basic recipe and flavor profile as in their earlier regular edition RY4, with the exception of having twice the percentage of tobacco flavoring in the mix, thus RY4 Double Tobacco (duh!).
I was very impressed with the original, which is one of the few (if not the only) American-made RY4 that uses the Classic Chinese RY4 flavor profile. The only significant deviation I could discern from some Classic RY4s (i.e., Janty or Dekang) was that CrystalELiquids version was clearly a dessert vape in its distinct sweetness, closer to VaporTalk Dulcis (which is a Chinese-manufactured liquid, or so I am told). This puts it in good company, since Dulcis remains one of my personal favorite RY4s.
RY4 Double Tobacco has the same quality of sweetness as the regular RY4, but---with twice the tobacco flavoring---the impact of sweetness is diminished in effect. Sweet is relegated to singing back-up harmonies (with its sisters Good Caramel and Nice Vanilla) as Tobacco grabs the lead mike to belt out the melody. This kicked-up RY4 has more tobacco presence, depth, bite, and throat hit. Oh, its still an RY4, and very clearly so---since the caramel and vanilla make their presence felt in the well-blended juice---but tobacco is the star. As far as I can tell, nuts stayed in the dressing room on this one. At least I couldn't find it onstage. Maybe it's still in the studio overdubbing.
I presume the tobacco flavoring to be synthetic, but I dont know that for sure. If it is a synthetic, its a good one, with no off-flavors or weird undertones.
RY4 Double Tobacco successfully straddles the twin markets of Classic versus Custom RY4 vapers. Many of those who like Classic RY4s will also like this one, while some of those who prefer Custom RY4 formulations may find this juice surprisingly satisfying. And, of course, lovers of straight tobacco and RY4 should definitely give this juice a go. You might find that, even if CrystalELiquids new edition cant possibly be the best of both worlds, it holds its own in each realm quite nicely.
Grade: A-
Link: RY4 Double Tobacco
KDude,
The review above---for CrystalELiquid RY4 Double Tobacco---may be what the doctor ordered for you. A classic RY4 heritage, but not much like Janty or Dekang. A good, middle-of-the-bell-curve synthetic tobacco, with no weird tones. And an almost clear color, with no macerated particulates to darken the liquid or clog a carto.
Ya crystal makes a pretty good one, I prefer the double tobacco because it isn't as sharp with more tobacco flavor
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