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I'm certain the all Ebony non-VV Woodvils will do just fine in humid conditions and "swimming." After all Ebony is used for structures exposed to the elements. My Ebonies are recent additions thanks to trades with a couple of dear REOnauts. Teak is fine, of course, but it needs protection to keep it from greying. It gets Howard's Sun Shield Wax and Howard's UV protectant hard paste wax as all the others get.

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I am really enjoying hearing your info on the different woods Alice. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.

I did a lot of research on the VV Woodvils when I was lucky enough to get one. I do not know near as much as about the other versions of the woodvils such as production numbers of each model etc. Woodvils just give me the warm fuzzies.
 

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awww! i didn't mean it Alice - give it to the feckless and useless guiding the hopeless!

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Well, I do need to do some addendum to my will. The person I named to care for and place my Bubs, along with monies for their support, died in 1993. So might as well put your name in there along with an executor for the dispersion of Woodvils. Better still name a committee. Actually I really do need to do something along those lines. I would hate for them to go to unappreciative non-REOnauts.

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All this talk about wood is making me .... ...Want some, oops I meant one :)

Hoping all our Okies are okie dokie!

Just two days out of school and the kids are already fighting .. Tylenol donations greatly appreciated, lol. I'm ready to ship em' to grandma and grandpas!!

less than a week and I'm ordering another grand :) life is good
 

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Has done the same to me tonight Pat.

Rob you are the second person I know of that has mentioned the Cocobolo. I am gonna ask Karen if she has a pic of one that she could post so I know what it looks like........All these different woods still confuse me. There was a stabilized just sold on the classifieds awhile ago but it was not blue.
Cocobolo the day I received it.



Almost a year later.
 

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I am really enjoying hearing your info on the different woods Alice. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and experience.

I did a lot of research on the VV Woodvils when I was lucky enough to get one. I do not know near as much as about the other versions of the woodvils such as production numbers of each model etc. Woodvils just give me the warm fuzzies.

Wood REOs give lots of us "warm fuzzies."

Keep in mind that when I talk about the conditions I subject some of my Woods to these conditions are far less extreme and hazardous than those the Silver Anodized are subjected to. And my "extreme" conditions are a far cry from what a lot of other REOs are subjected to on a regular basis. "Swimming" in shallow bodies of water is probably one of the least extreme events that can happen to any REO. (I don't plan on testing a VVW as I can't soak it upside down in alcohol like I do the VVGs to get water (and other contaminants) out of them.

You are welcome. I'm slightly educated about woods and their properties. A while back, before Robert did the 18490 Woodvils, I picked up a "lowly" plain grained, well used Walnut Woodvil from classies. I mean it was used enough some of the finish had worn off. It is plainest of plain compared to all the other Woodvils. I was so impressed with how pristine it was otherwise, with only a few almost imperceptible teensy teensy impressions in wood from drops I set my sites on getting a Walnut 18490 when they were released. But the other driving factor was how light in weight it was for such a tough wood and walnut is not as brittle as some of the other hard woods are. I do like practical a lot. I just can't have a stable of Woodvils that all have to be pampered all the time. The ones I've mentioned, Curly Oak, Walnut, Teak, Cocobolo, Purpleheart are the ones I've subjected to less than ideal conditions but I can't speak for some of the other woods that could be just as tough. I do have a VVW that is two different exotic woods that could fit into the really tough category but I can't remember the names of the woods right now. By it being a VV, though, I'll never expose it to many of the conditions the non-VVs are exposed to. Teak is pretty soft and can dent more easily but as far as moisture goes it can handle a lot. Purple heart is really tough as far as denting but it is brittle. Both of the Purpleheart Woodys I have had to have hairline cracks repaired. I do know that mine had been smacked flat onto hard surface a couple of times by me (not on purpose and it landed flat on back side) and it came to me with a chip off a shoulder but the other one, one Robert found stuffed back in a drawer, had not been used a lot and it had a chip on shoulder and he spotted a hairline crack he repaired before sending it to me. So I can't advocate the all round toughness of Purpleheart. I haven't had the Ebonys for very long but I'm sure they can take just about anything I can "throw" at them. The Quilted Maple door on one puts it into "less tough" category.

Of course with most of the red toned, including purple, woods change of color is going to happen when exposed to UV. Different woods change in different ways. So that has to be considered when using the Woodvils in high UV environments. Or storing exposed to light. My first Woody, a Purpleheart had browned quite a bit by the time I got it, and I wasn't aware of the UV factor for several months of constant use outside here where UV is extreme year round most days. And that was before we became aware of the Howard's UV shield wax. So it darkened a little more. Now days none of my red/purple woods spend much of any time in bright light. BTW..... it can happen inside ambient lighting, too, or even exposed too long to indoor lighting. I first became aware about this with dark clothing stored for long periods in warehouses that were lit around the clock. (Depends on fabric and dyes of course.) So I store all my Woods in dark area and only use the ones least affected by UV outside during the day. There are a few red tone woods that will change in either/or light or darkness. A few months ago I was rereading about the Pink Ivory; some woodworkers forums. It seems one has little control over it. Luckily the boards I have to send to Robert, haven't changed much that I can tell in the two years I've had them, thank doGness. I need to do some more research to see what affect certain finishes have on the color changing or not. The Pink Ivory is very tough, fine grained, but is one of the heavier woods I've ever had in my hands. Fine grained except for some pieces that are figured. The big plank cost a frigg'n fortune!!!!! Hoping some day some fine Pink to Dark Pink to Red REOs will come out of those boards.

Hitting the hay for a bit. Rest well Fine REO Folk.

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have you ever thought that if you waxed yourself with Howards with the same dedication your wooden Reos get - you could last forever?

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Fact.... the moment I open a bottle of Lemon Oil (it doesn't have the protective properties of Orange Oil like in Howard's and virtually all "lemon oil" products are mostly solvent and used primarily for cleaning) my lips and ears swell up and my face starts itching but I can rub wood for hours with Howard's, bare hands, with no ill affects. In fact it is soothing to hands. (Is Karen around???;) ) Might be even some human restorative properties in that bottle. Thanks for suggestion.

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i wondered where my father was - but i never thought he'd pop up vaping a double barrelled silver bullet with a Newcastle accent! That's Frank's neck of the woods!

I understood every word he said sadly, but i did build a hospital there. I sound more to Americans like this : Free Pie and Chips - YouTube

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Trunker, he's a mackem, from Sunderland, I could say I'm insulted, Geordies (people from Newcastle) hate mackems(people from Sunderland) with a passion :D, but it's best I don't get started on the mackems LOL
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Cocobolo the day I received it.



Almost a year later.

Wow!!!! Not that it's not really pretty now. It looks like some of the Ebonys Robert made. (Not all Ebony is solid Black or even Black.) Has it been exposed to a lot of light? And have you been using UV protectant on it? Before I got the Howard's hard paste wax, with UV protectant, I was using another paste wax to give more resistance and hardness to finish but was afraid that those waxes, with much more solvent in them than the Howard's paste, was actually removing the Howard's UV protection provided by the "liquid" wax. That's when I found the Howard's hard paste wax. Two issues with it. Carnauba wax is very hard and does need some solvent to be able to work with it and it takes a lot of elbow "wax" to remove excess and polish. And due to these properties it needs some colorant, close to the wood color, because it is almost impossible to remove from wood grain that has any indentions/groves, etc. Even on the light Curly Oaks the natural color left in "grooves" showed more than I like as those "groves" are darker than the main wood color. So I got all the colors.Carnauba wax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Morning everyone lovely bright sunny Sunday morning here, hope everyone is well, & enjoying their weekend.
It amazes me, how so many of you love the woodys, I work with wood all day, so it doesn't hold the same love for me, I guess it's cos I know the pitfalls of wooden things, & the work involved, in keeping them pristine
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Almost a year later.

Just for a closer comparison. I've had my Cocobolo at least a year. And I think they were produced about a year before I got it off classies. Mine has seen little light and has only the Howard's UV "liquid" on it. I haven't gotten around to putting the hard paste on it. Picture taken in bringht sunlight behind me.
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