What portion of this are you patenting? Feeding juice to an atomizer from a bottle has plenty of prior art, just wondering if you are attempting to patent this idea, or some portion, like the separated/elevated air passages?
The VapeMate Juice Feeder by SuperT!
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I wouldn't think the verbiage would be discussed on the patent until it is in as that is the highly secret part of a patent pending the verbiage that is
A patent for the whole juice feeder is being applied for. We have done a prior art search and there is no prior art that even remotely resembles this. A bottle with a plastic tube stuck in it is not prior art. If you have any further questions, feel free to direct them to my patent attorney, Mitchell A. Rossman, Terra Nova Patent Law, PLLC. Contact info is below. As previously stated, I will post up the patent pending number as soon as we receive it.
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David, these are my favorite bottles. They hold 4.5ml of ejuice. They're a very soft plastic. They come from Johnson's Creek (5 for a couple bucks).
Why do you make things that make me part with my money? Nice little precisely made juice system indeed. This could save lives on the road, which is why I'm feeling tempted to buy one. Is my life or everybody else's worth it. Oh yeah.
Why do you make things that make me part with my money? Nice little precisely made juice system indeed. This could save lives on the road, which is why I'm feeling tempted to buy one. Is my life or everybody else's worth it. Oh yeah.
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I should also mention that i took the Ego into account when designing this Universal feeder
as well as safety considerations:
I'm not worried about it working with my eGo as I use 510 Mega Atomizers instead of the reg atties.. I just like them better and also I don't get liquid in the cone. LOL..
Did I say I'll take one?
Where do I place my order, David??
lol I would drill out an 801 drip tip if I had the right tools.... honestly though an adapter is not a big deal when one could just snap it on the feeder and be done with it. But I do see your point... precision is the only way for you.
Nothing wrong with that. Keep on
David, these are my favorite bottles. They hold 4.5ml of ejuice. They're a very soft plastic. They come from Johnson's Creek (5 for a couple bucks).
Why do you make things that make me part with my money? Nice little precisely made juice system indeed. This could save lives on the road, which is why I'm feeling tempted to buy one. Is my life or everybody else's worth it. Oh yeah.
I agree. I like these bottles also. I tried a child safety cap on one of the 3ml ones and they might work. A little piece of tubing from the top to the bottom of the bottle might help you be able to squeeze the bottle with the device in the upright position as well. I have a UMP and it has a set up like that.
I'll drill up a 801 ttip i have and see how it turns out and get back to you
Thanks ForcedFuel, would you like me to send you a LR mini 801 attie.... if not you can get one over at Ikenvape.com and I think there is another supplier selling them as well. The fitting would be 0.15mm or 0.25mm (not exactly sure) above the O-ring for perfect placement for the mini 801.
you are the man... I would gladly pay for a prototype
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David.... I just wanted to say that some of the resistance you're getting with this device is possibly the same as my issue with it... I'm sure it's engineered and built flawlessly... but in the past all your devices have been the slimmest mods out there...very streamlined....and this is such a huge divergence from that...the super 6... the precise line all of them part of their appeal was that they were well precisely machined and the slimmest mods for their battery sizes and were even marketed as such...
Now here's a device that alot of owners of your mods were waiting for with bated breath... and it detracts from that slim streamlined package by hanging a bottle off the side....it's just a huge radical departure from what a lot of people have come to expect out of superT, almost a complete 180 actually..
Personally, I work heavy heavy construction so I need a rugged PV that would survive an industrial type of enviroment...your mods fit this fairly well..
I had sold my super 6 and had been saving for a P18...and then I heard that a juice feeder was coming out so I was waiting for that release to get the two together... and well this feeder just doesn't fit that at all... not to mention that it won't accomidate the 306 or 801 atty (which popular trend seems to be that those are becoming the more popular)...and with the 306 dripping (or juice feed) is pretty much a requirement...
so for a lot of us coming from the standpoint of different atties or looking for the longest lasting slimmest, hassle free, sturdiest PV... the trend with superT for that in your mods held great promise with a feeder....and well it kinda is a disappointment..just cant get past the the bottle hanging off the side, it totally negates the slimness of the precise
I was looking for all mechanical, smallest, 18650 battery, with a 306 atty the p18 would have done that and the juice feeder would have been a huge plus (I could have been up walking the iron without having to pause to drip)...now if I want that I have to look at other options...
Now here's a device that alot of owners of your mods were waiting for with bated breath... and it detracts from that slim streamlined package by hanging a bottle off the side....it's just a huge radical departure from what a lot of people have come to expect out of superT, almost a complete 180 actually..
Personally, I work heavy heavy construction so I need a rugged PV that would survive an industrial type of enviroment...your mods fit this fairly well..
I had sold my super 6 and had been saving for a P18...and then I heard that a juice feeder was coming out so I was waiting for that release to get the two together... and well this feeder just doesn't fit that at all... not to mention that it won't accomidate the 306 or 801 atty (which popular trend seems to be that those are becoming the more popular)...and with the 306 dripping (or juice feed) is pretty much a requirement...
so for a lot of us coming from the standpoint of different atties or looking for the longest lasting slimmest, hassle free, sturdiest PV... the trend with superT for that in your mods held great promise with a feeder....and well it kinda is a disappointment..just cant get past the the bottle hanging off the side, it totally negates the slimness of the precise
I was looking for all mechanical, smallest, 18650 battery, with a 306 atty the p18 would have done that and the juice feeder would have been a huge plus (I could have been up walking the iron without having to pause to drip)...now if I want that I have to look at other options...
I appreciate the input Drozd. For some who invisioned something else, it may disappoint, for others who invisioned it as is, it's awesome. I think what has happened for some was the expectation became that it was something that was a cylindrical slide over the atomizer type feeder and i for one, should have let people know up front that it was a universal fit, non integrated feeder, designed to fit almost every ecigarette and was intended more for private in home or in car use, then expectations would have been different.
However, that being said, and now that the product has been revealed as such, i am confident people will come to appreciate it for what it was intended and realize the benefits of it and the thoughtful design that went into it. It is incredibly user friendly and can be switched from any ecig to another ecig in only seconds. One can switch eliquids in a matter of seconds. No emptying resovoirs, no opening up box mods and inserting needles, no adjusting, no fiddling, no leaking! And for those who are self conscious, it converts back to cartomizer or dripping literally within seconds. It's a great device as you can just vape all day and night, never having to touch or refill anything.
And the biggest benefit of this device, it actually WORKS, which is the most imporant thing to keep one off cigarettes!
However, that being said, and now that the product has been revealed as such, i am confident people will come to appreciate it for what it was intended and realize the benefits of it and the thoughtful design that went into it. It is incredibly user friendly and can be switched from any ecig to another ecig in only seconds. One can switch eliquids in a matter of seconds. No emptying resovoirs, no opening up box mods and inserting needles, no adjusting, no fiddling, no leaking! And for those who are self conscious, it converts back to cartomizer or dripping literally within seconds. It's a great device as you can just vape all day and night, never having to touch or refill anything.
And the biggest benefit of this device, it actually WORKS, which is the most imporant thing to keep one off cigarettes!
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Are you pushing all in with pockets Aces? I have KK and no way i'm folding these bad boys, I call!!!
Drozd, don't give up yet. I ordered this first juice feeder simply to keep me (and others) safe on the road. Thus, I think it's the first ecig device that I don't have to feel 100% selfish about buying. I'll be using it on my eGo passthrough in the car. I trust David's devices to do just what he says they'll do. Remember that David's got other tricks up his sleeve that I think just might please both you and me. We'll just have to wait and see. That's just got to be half the fun. Sort of.
Innovation is about radical departure. I know for some, this device is too far a departure, but I don't walk in the footsteps of others. I remember the resistance for some to box mods, drip tips, bottom buttons, all mechanical mods etc. I make things in my vision to work and work well and this device delivers.
David, like I said before I think you made a great device in it's speed of bottle changing and ease of use with different mods, but it won't be for everyone, but what ever is! Maybe for those naysayers your VV Box Feeder will do the trick. Are you sticking with your smooth designs found on your previous mods for your VV Box Feeder?, as that's one aspect I've liked about the style of box mods like the Tekkeon and Fistpack but neither of them offer the juice feeder option. I'm hoping with your design we'll get the best of both worlds, and from what I've seen coming out of your shop I'm sure we will.
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right and like you said it isn't going to be for everyone...which it's just not for me... like I said it's just such a divergence from what we've come to expect...
and for alot of us it's making a choice that's based on lifestyle...looking for the longest lasting battery, and the smallest package possible, and as indestructable as possible..something that can quickly be slipped into a pocket and don't have to mess with the juice or battery for 2 days...I think thats what a lot of us were expecting given the track record for all your mods to this point...it just startled us...
I know I'm still torn...I thought perfection for me as far as PVs was 2-3 weeks out and now I'm back to hard choices...love the precise line and the all mechanical nature...but the longer I use a 306 atty the more juice feeding is a deal maker/breaker and the vapemate just doesnt work with my lifestyle and activity level...it's not something that I can be up on the iron connecting an I-beam pull from my pocket grab a quick drag or 2 from and then slip back in the pocket while I wait for the crane (then again...nothing out there is)...and I don't have to worry about it if it accidentally falls 2-3 stories and lands in a mudpuddle that's then run over with a JLG lift (and yeah that's happened with a PV or 2 of mine)
would love to see a super rugged slender PV from you for the hard working, high action types (the ironworkers, treeclimbers, carpenters, military, outdoorsmen) ... I and I suspect several others mistakenly believed that that is what this on something like the p18 was going to be... and that's where the disappointment comes in... there's nothing at all on the market that really fits that niche
you're right that it'd vape all day without having to touch anything.... but requires the sacrifice of the slimness and streamlined feel of the PV to do so... not to mention some of the rugged feel of the otherwise all stainless construction of the precise...aluminum gasket fitting and plastic squeeze bottle...
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I think you will take a keen interest in my juice fed vaiable voltage box mod then. It will be all streamlined and the juice feeder is integrated (with a twist).
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