The VapeMate Juice Feeder by SuperT!

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Drozd

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I think you will take a keen interest in my juice fed vaiable voltage box mod then. It will be all streamlined and the juice feeder is integrated (with a twist).

ahh but from what I've gleened....no longer all mechanical...it involves some wiring and electronics yes?...
perhaps I can get past the box aspect...but I dunno about box and electronics
 

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ahh but from what I've gleened....no longer all mechanical...it involves some wiring and electronics yes?...
perhaps I can get past the box aspect...but I dunno about box and electronics

Yes, i'll have to be a little more forthcoming on this project. I can tell you, yes, it is electrical, however, one of the ways i'm designing it is so that it is almost modular in concept. Meaning, if say, the variable voltage circuit falls, the user can simply unplug the variable voltage module and replace it. Same with the switch, it'll use the same 10,000,000 cycle 10amp switch as the shockwave, and should it fail, it'll be such that the user can easily replace it. So many of the mods are all wired as one big cirucit and some even go to lengths to conceal and cover the entire circuit in epoxy making it so no one can access it or replace individual items.

And maybe it just won't be for you. I'd like to be able to make an individual custom tailored device for every person out there, but thats not reality. Some will love it, some won't.
 
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Yes, i'll have to be a little more forthcoming on this project. I can tell you, yes, it is electrical, however, one of the ways i'm designing it is so that it is almost modular in concept. Meaning, if say, the variable voltage circuit falls, the user can simply inplug the variable voltage module and replace it. Same with the switch, it'll use the same 10,000,000 cycle 10amp switch as the shockwave, and should it fail, it'll be such that the user can easily replace it. So many of the mods are all wired as one big cirucit and some even go to lengths to conceal and cover the entire circuit in epoxy making it so no one can access it or replace individual items.

David this sounds great. I have several juice feed devices and some of them if they fail it would be a pita to fix.
I'll assume you'll have all user replaceable parts in stock on your site.
 

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I just might have to do a mega attomizer adapter. Heres the link: VapeMate Juice Feeder

Why?? if it fits the 510, there would be no need.. it will just sit higher than the 510 and I don't really see that as a problem..
The 510 Mega atty is just longer, that's all. Same ID on it as its the longer atty than the regular 510 atty.
 

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Why?? if it fits the 510, there would be no need.. it will just sit higher than the 510 and I don't really see that as a problem..
The 510 Mega atty is just longer, that's all. Same ID on it as its the longer atty than the regular 510 atty.
I believe he is confused with the "eGo" mega attys vs the 510 mega attys.
 

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Yes, you are right. I was thinking the big honking wide ones for the ego...i have one sitting somewhere around here. It actually screwed onto my Precise 10440 down and over the top cap, but then it was a ..... to get the cap off as only a little bit of the cap stuck out.
 

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My order is already in on this one.

I am not sure if the bottle being attached is any better or worse for me in public than me pulling a bottle out to top off a cartridge or cartomizer or drip through a tip. In fact, only two things still give me any pause:

1. How do you get a consistent drip feed from squeezing a bottle with this system? Is it just by feel or that sight glass or what?

2. What will the effect of juice be on the anodized aluminum tube that it passes through and the dripping chamber? How long will the anodization last before it corrodes? Of course, I suppose that if it does corrode that will block the tube anyway. Stainless would have solved this issue completely, but you were concerned about weight, although if used with something the size of the Shockwave would we really notice?

I guess of the two questions the second is more vital. I'm sure the technique can be learned through trial and error and a little flooding, but aluminum oxide still concerns me. So, what can you tell me? Should the unit be washed out if left idle for a time?
 
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Congrats David,

Your ideas to concrete for all to see :toast:.

Couple of questions:

1) I repeat North Shore's ? # 2 in post#154

2) When / if you make a VM for the 801 have you considered using a 3ml bottle, thus a smaller "arm" ?

3) When changing bottles and or switching the PV to drip tip usage ( thus putting the VM to rest) is there much/any residual fluid mess?

4) Normally while dripping I have to give a soft blow down the tube to disperse the liquid, would this still be possible with the separate air chamber or would it even be necessary?
 

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My order is already in on this one.

I am not sure if the bottle being attached is any better or worse for me in public than me pulling a bottle out to top off a cartridge or cartomizer or drip through a tip. In fact, only two things still give me any pause:

1. How do you get a consistent drip feed from squeezing a bottle with this system? Is it just by feel or that sight glass or what?

2. What will the effect of juice be on the anodized aluminum tube that it passes through and the dripping chamber? How long will the anodization last before it corrodes? Of course, I suppose that if it does corrode that will block the tube anyway. Stainless would have solved this issue completely, but you were concerned about weight, although if used with something the size of the Shockwave would we really notice?

I guess of the two questions the second is more vital. I'm sure the technique can be learned through trial and error and a little flooding, but aluminum oxide still concerns me. So, what can you tell me? Should the unit be washed out if left idle for a time?

The unit was anodized to prevent corrosion. When aluminum is anodized it creates a hard non porous surface that is food safe where as non anodized aluminum is not so. Have a look at this site and why anodized aluminum is the best possible surface for this application.

Your Cookware Helper - Is Anodized Aluminum Cookware Safe

Here is the inside of a non anodized juice tank less than 6 months old.
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Thats a good link Vapn. As i've said it before and i'll say it again, using raw un-anodized aluminum as a holding tank for juice is a big no, no and more likely then not, hazardous to your health. Juice should not be coming into prolonged contact with raw unanodized aluminum or brass. I read one person citing an article trying to even claim PG was an anti-corrosive, but they are mis-reading the article, the anti corrosive was an ADDITIVE to the PG, we do not have anti corrosive additives added to our eliquids, and even if we did, it wouldnt matter, as raw aluminum and brass will corrode even if they are in a non-corrosive liquid as all they need is oxygen to corrode and there is oxygen even in liquids. So you are picking up brass and aluminum particulate matter via the juice and inhaling and consuming it, a definite and obvious health concern.

And to answer your question North Shore, i don't know how long the anodizing will last, since it is in a non wear passage and the juice doesn't sit for prolonged periods of time, it will should last for years and years. The article vapn just posted has some pretty good info on anodizing. As far as how do you meter the juice, my tester described it as a bit of trial and error and then within a short time, they didn't even notice they were doing it, it just became automatic. (does that make this an automatic feeder? lol)
 

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David, these are my favorite bottles. They hold 4.5ml of ejuice. They're a very soft plastic. They come from Johnson's Creek (5 for a couple bucks).

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Why do you make things that make me part with my money? Nice little precisely made juice system indeed. This could save lives on the road, which is why I'm feeling tempted to buy one. Is my life or everybody else's worth it. Oh yeah.

I looked these up at JC and they only show a 3ml size. Perhaps they are oos? Does any one know if the 3ml size at JC is the correct thread size?

Thank You
 

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Yeah, it could take a 3ml bottle if the thread size is the same as the bigger bottles. Curious...

1) Do you have to use the child proof style bottles?....
2) What is the difference? I always thought it was the cap that child proofed it lol :)
3) Do you have any close ups of the bottles that shows the best threads?.... I dont have any child proof style bottles...
4) And where did you get your bottles? especially the 5ml wide style bottle.

I just want to make sure i have the right bottles... So many questions.... sorry about that Dave.
 
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forcedfuel50

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The childproof bottles have slightly smaller od on the threads. Alot of manufacturers are switching to the child saftey cap bottles (they ALL should be, but it ain't up to me, talk about a massive law suit waiting to happen). I ordered juice from several companies, Puresmoker, TastyVapor, Heavengifts, etc and all their juices came in child saftey cap bottles, except my 30ml puresmoker bottle, but the 10ml bottle from puresmoker i got had the saftey cap style bottle.
 
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