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Ok ya mod wompers, its Monday. Maybe this will make your Monday a little more bearable!
And if that dont then ya can just jam out on this...
And if that dont then ya can just jam out on this...
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LOVE "The Chain"!!
Any Star Trek fans here? I crack up every time I see the Next Generation episode where Mick Fleetwood plays an Antedian (a big fishy looking creature) - there's 2 of them, not sure which one is Mick, and neither has any speaking parts, they just make gobbly sort of noises. LOL. He must be a huge Star Trek fan to want to do that!!
Any Star Trek fans here? I crack up every time I see the Next Generation episode where Mick Fleetwood plays an Antedian (a big fishy looking creature) - there's 2 of them, not sure which one is Mick, and neither has any speaking parts, they just make gobbly sort of noises. LOL. He must be a huge Star Trek fan to want to do that!!
The pwm in the SX is why I like the Mini over any other TC mods . I think it regulates the temp better, quicker and gives a better hit. Doesn't have any harshness as it has a temp limit.
If the TC is working properly how it get to temp should have no effect. If the mod doesn't spike and go over temp, or not supply enough power to maintain temp when you take a toot...the waveform it uses to do it is somewhat immaterial.
Thats why I am liking the Xpro M80 plus more and more. I did read that it is using an algorithm for temp control but so what. I am running a Kanthal coil in my Lemo II and so far twice I went bone dry twice and no dry hit. To me thats the whole purpose of temp control, to stop the dry hits. I dont care how it is doing it, all I care is that it is doing it.
They had a lot of problems with the M80 when it first came out yet since the last upgrade in May, all chatter about it totally ceased. Google after Google shows tons of stuff on it from February to May and then hardly anything. When I get time, maybe tonight at work I am going to put an RDA on mine and see how many dry hits I get from it from normal vaping. Being newish to dripping I still get a lot of dry hits for I havent developed being able to tell yet when I need to drip. I am getting there but still have many dry hits. If the M80 helps with that it will be worth its weight in gold to me.
That actually does sound promising; I really don't care *how* a mod does temp control, if it works. If it's possible to do that with kanthal, I'm more interested; I can't use nickel because of sensitivity, and I discovered that I don't care for the taste, when titanium is used, plus all my issues with my super-gunker juice. And I like Smoktech mods, though their attys leave much to be desired. You have my attention!
Andria
That actually does sound promising; I really don't care *how* a mod does temp control, if it works. If it's possible to do that with kanthal, I'm more interested; I can't use nickel because of sensitivity, and I discovered that I don't care for the taste, when titanium is used, plus all my issues with my super-gunker juice. And I like Smoktech mods, though their attys leave much to be desired. You have my attention!
Andria
I smoked the same way I vape, absentmindedly. Many times I went to stab out a cig and the ashtray was over flowing and I distinctly remembered just emptying it. With vaping its like, didn’t I just fill that tank up??? I cant stand a dry hit because not only does it taste nasty, I go to gagging and choking on them. Then the missus goes on her rant on how unhealthy they are and no better than cigs. ( She still smokes and one of her friends filled her head with BS about vaping. I even heard the formaldehyde BS from her).
The problem I am seeing now with TC and Ni200 or even titanium coils is now your stuck with only being able to use a certain kind of mod. If your battery goes dead you cant simply put your vape on another mod and keep vaping, now you have to wait for it to charge. Not a pro in my book. The M80 doesnt have that problem. I can put my Lemo on a clouper or my IPV2 and keep going if I want. Wont be temp control but so what, I will still be vaping.
I just ran my Lemo II dry again so that makes the third time I ran dry with no burnt taste. When it goes empty it has a noticeable lack of flavor and I kept hitting it to see if I would get a burnt taste, and none and the vape is very noticeably cooler. They say it is impossible to do TC with Kanthal but I just did. I am set up for 430 F with a .49 ohm 28 ga Kanthal build. The mod is maintaining a steady temp vape and I have ran it dry to the point where the vape is very noticeably lacking in both temp and flavor and have yet to experience a dry hit with it. Isnt that exactly what people are looking for out of TC?
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There is a con to the M80 pro that should be mentioned. I tried a few time to run my tanks with Ni200 coils in them. My Evic VT will run them, my IPV4's will run them but the M80 Plus says check atomizer. They usually are built to around .08 ohms and mine wont let me go that low.
That's why I said its a subjective thing, and hard to quantify.... Even more accurate pwm mods have a quality to the vape that I find less pleasant then straight dc to dc (I also get this from a dc to dc mod with an overly "dirty" signal). Not knocking the device, just not for me.
I'd be more accepting of the m80 if they were open/up front about what it was.....calling it a kanthal tc device is false advertising
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
I'd be more accepting of the m80 if they were open/up front about what it was.....calling it a kanthal tc device is false advertising
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.
But thats just it, I am running a kanthal coil, in temp mode. I am set for 80 watts but it has never gone above 35 watts that I seen. The temp stays constant thru the vape and it prevented dry hits after running the tank empty. Does that not make it a kanthal TC device?
I thought TC was a concept and one way of achieving it is to measure resistance changes in the coil?
This makes me wonder if one reason I found the vape so "flat", not much TH or "oomph", was because of that DC/DC thing; as far as I know, all my other mods are PWM.
Andria
I am not recommending the M80 Plus to anyone yet. Only had it 10 days so far. What I am doing is sharing my experience with it.
I googled "smoktech M80" and came up with an "M80plus" -- what's the significance of the "plus"?
I like the weight of it, only 6oz!
Andria
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