The Womper Woom OR You Might Be A Modwomper

[coolerat]

I coughed real bad when I started with light gear . 2-4 PAD of full flavor menthol of the rez. Vape shop told me its normal around here, everyone smokes rez cigs, and it will go away. It did.

I like my tank juice at 6mg and when I pour some in the dripper bottle I cut it down with VG so say 4ish. When my son is over and we are chucking huge cloudz bro I switch to pure VG with a hint of flavor.

Was the 30/70 30 or 70 PG?? 70 pg would have me coughing up a lung and possibly dead. 30 pg would just be some coughing and a yuck experience.

 

[Lessifer]

ROFL... I always find it hysterically funny when those who've smoked for DECADES say that vapor "makes them cough", or "burns their throat"... I mean, c'mon... SMOKE? For DECADES? and they can't handle a little vapor? Seriously??? I always think those are the people who are determined from the start that vaping "just won't work for them". Brains can manufacturer all kinds of BS, to serve our prejudices.

Andria

My wife is one of those... She won't listen to me at all about vaping technique, maybe someday.

Not always. When I first started trying to drip I would gag horribly and see stars from it. Part of it I believe was the damage I did to my lungs from all those years of smoking and they not liking the heavy vapor I was trying to inhale, but also the cloud chasers figured out I was using way to high of nicotine and said that was a common problem for new drippers.
It was the second time that I tried dripping I was using the magma and we all know that doesnt hit hard. That is when I went to the Cloud Chasers and they asked me a bunch of questions and figured out it was mainly the nicotine causing me to gag. Was trying to drip %12. Dropped it to %3 and I was able to vape it.

The key for me is, I don't actually inhale most of the time. I do the cigar style mouth puff. The only reason I don't often use 24mg anymore is, I get nic sick too quickly, my body just seems to need less nic now.

 

[Boden]

Was the 30/70 30 or 70 PG?? 70 pg would have me coughing up a lung and possibly dead. 30 pg would just be some coughing and a yuck experience.

PG/VG

 

[AndriaD]

My wife is one of those... She won't listen to me at all about vaping technique, maybe someday.

Learning to do it really slowly, hold it, and exhale using the nose as much as the mouth, was the final key in the vaping puzzle for me, that allowed me to give the smokes the heave-ho -- until I learned that technique, I couldn't get satisfied, first thing in the morning -- I kept trying to smoke my vape with hard hits, totally unsatisfactory. Eventually, maybe half an hour later, I'd have to go have that morning smoke, though I managed to abstain all the rest of the day -- that went on for 3 days, and I finally noticed how I was trying to hit it, in the morning.

The key for me is, I don't actually inhale most of the time. I do the cigar style mouth puff. The only reason I don't often use 24mg anymore is, I get nic sick too quickly, my body just seems to need less nic now.

I never did inhale very deeply, at the end of my smoking, thanks to the asthma; now, I vape either to about that same very-shallow depth, or if my asthma is bothersome, I just do the mouth/nose style. Either way seems to work very well for me, I just have to tailor how I hit it, according to how my asthma's doing.

Andria

 

[Boden]

Alright, this is the cleanest STM on earth. In the pic I am wearing latex gloves to keep any oil from contaminating the mesurment. All contact points and test leads were degreased in 91% alcohol and dry pressurized air was used to dry everything. I bridged the posts with a 28 awg 99.98% pure silver wire.

 

[VNeil]

With the rba deck removed, place a needle in the air holes on bottom of rba head, tighten.....easy peasy

Thank you. Now that makes sense.

 

[chopdoc]

Alright, this is the cleanest STM on earth. In the pic I am wearing latex gloves to keep any oil from contaminating the mesurment. All contact points and test leads were degreased in 91% alcohol and dry pressurized air was used to dry everything. I bridged the posts with a 28 awg 99.98% pure silver wire.
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Are you measuring the resistance of the whole atty or just the wire between the two points?

 

[Boden]

Now take that same piece of wire and measure the resistance from the two points where the screws hold the wire down. That will give you the resistance of the wire.

Wish i was at work, I have a calibrated DVOM in my tool chest.

Is it rated to measure to the thousandth place?

I'll measure the wire. BRB

Edit: 0.0035 ohms +\- 0.002 at that resolution.

 

[Boden]

Are you measuring the resistance of the whole atty or just the wire between the two points?

I was measuring the whole base including the silver wire because I needed to include the resistance of the hold down screws while they were tight. The silver wire has neglable resistance at that spacing.

 

[chopdoc]

Is it rated to measure to the thousandth place?

I'll measure the wire. BRB

Edit: 0.0035 ohms +\- .0002 at that resolution.

Out of curiosity, for the .09 reading, where exactly are you measuring from?

What doesnt make sense is I can take some Ni200 wire size 26 AWG, build a coil and it will read .09 on the test set, Put it on a mod, juice it and vape it and it will drop to .05 ohms after 1 firing. Place it back on the test stand and will read .o6 to .05 ohms. Wouldnt be possible if the atty resistance was .09 to begin with.

 

[Boden]

Out of curiosity, for the .09 reading, where exactly are you measuring from?

What doesnt make sense is I can take some Ni200 wire size 26 AWG, build a coil and it will read .09 on the test set, Put it on a mod, juice it and vape it and it will drop to .05 ohms after 1 firing. Place it back on the test stand and will read .o6 to .05 ohms. Wouldnt be possible if the atty resistance was .09 to begin with.

The 510 connector.

I'll check everything and do it again.

 

[Boden]

Found the problem. I forgot to set the test signal to DC. I was testing at 10kHz before. Oops

Now I'm getting 0.021 ohms after subtracting for the wire.

 

[Woofer]

Found the problem. I forgot to set the test signal to DC. I was testing at 10kHz before. Oops

Now I'm getting 0.021 ohms after subtracting for the wire.

Good science day huh.

IMO you are correct that this static resistance does affect TC, however in use what I have found is that as long as the resistance is stable TC is very workable even with this error. If the resistance is jumping around than problems a plenty.

Interesting research thanks!

 

[QU1T]

Wompers!, just wondering what your thoughts are on Nickel & Titanium with regards to toxicity in the TC mod environment?
(What little info I did find on the net was rather scary...)

 

[beckdg]

LOL, don't sweat it motordude, buying rayon at Sally's was the first time I was in a 'beauty supply shop'.

It was an interesting experience. Tried to act nonchalant, like I was used to buying beauty supplies. Don't know if I succeeded. I was the only male in the shop which didn't help any

I survived though and it was worth it

I buy clippers, edgers, combs and brushes there.

But my wife is a beautician.

Tapatyped

 

[USMCotaku]

Wompers!, just wondering what your thoughts are on Nickel & Titanium with regards to toxicity in the TC mod environment?
(What little info I did find on the net was rather scary...)

The only thing I would be worried about with Ti is titanium dioxide..... That starts to form at 600 degrees Celsius... Way hotter then a tc mod puts out (your starting to reach those temps when you dry fire a coil till it glows).

 

[chopdoc]

Found the problem. I forgot to set the test signal to DC. I was testing at 10kHz before. Oops

Now I'm getting 0.021 ohms after subtracting for the wire.

I see!

Built a Ni200 26 AWG coil in my STM 7 wraps, 3 mm ID.

It came out to .09 ohms

After the first firing it dropped to .05 ohms

Back on the test stand its at .06 ohms

Now according to Steam, Ni200 26AWG coil like I built should ohm out with a 5/6 wrap at .05 and a 6/7 wrap at .06. I am ballpark (6/7) so I dont believe the .021 inherent resistance.

 

[chopdoc]

Wompers!, just wondering what your thoughts are on Nickel & Titanium with regards to toxicity in the TC mod environment?
(What little info I did find on the net was rather scary...)

I smoked 3 ish packs a day for 40 years and didnt care what was in cigs. I see no reason to be worried now. We are not hitting the temp required for the wires to let lose the nasty stuff so why sweat it.

 

[beckdg]

Insanity has it. I am applying to a job in pennsy

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Poor guy. I'll weep for you.

Tapatyped

 

[Boden]

I see!

Built a Ni200 26 AWG coil in my STM 7 wraps, 3 mm ID.

It came out to .09 ohms

After the first firing it dropped to .05 ohms

Back on the test stand its at .06 ohms

Now according to Steam, Ni200 26AWG coil like I built should ohm out with a 5/6 wrap at .05 and a 6/7 wrap at .06. I am ballpark (6/7) so I dont believe the .021 inherent resistance.

I tested a Wotofo 510 resistance meter a few days ago (Before I changed the tester to 10kHz to measure some amplifier parts) and it was reading 0.02 ohms low. If yours has the same chip it could be as well. A few hundredths of an ohm is about right for seven non-soldered contact points. Actually it's really good.