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Correct, the only other way would be to actually measure the temp somehow (as in innokins upcoming mod). The m80 method will only be accurate with the ideal build...varying factors, like coil type, position to airflow, wicking etc....can really change the output, since its not actually measuring the output. If you always vape the same way, using the same type of coil, I imagine you could find a setting that works for you.
TC by definition is a overly "dirty" signal. VV or VW regulates dependent only on the setting you select, no possibility of variation when you take a puff, or drip your RDA. It's simple E=I*R, same as a mech but you get to pick the voltage the battery puts out.
TC depending on airflow, juice flow, coil type and position, topper type will vary the voltage / wattage to maintain your temperature. If you fire it and don't puff it at all, it still maintains (or tries to) the temp. Voltage / wattage constantly will vary which is the definition of a overly "dirty" signal...
It's a new way of thinking of how the mod's output is regulated.
That's not dirty signal, that is varying signal. Look at the scope tests of a DNA40....clean signal, then look at the istick 40...dirty signalTC by definition is a overly "dirty" signal. VV or VW regulates dependent only on the setting you select, no possibility of variation when you take a puff, or drip your RDA. It's simple E=I*R, same as a mech but you get to pick the voltage the battery puts out.
TC depending on airflow, juice flow, coil type and position, topper type will vary the voltage / wattage to maintain your temperature. If you fire it and don't puff it at all, it still maintains (or tries to) the temp. Voltage / wattage constantly will vary which is the definition of a overly "dirty" signal...
It's a new way of thinking of how the mod's output is regulated.
If the signal is varying 100 times greater magnitude than the noise on a signal, the noise becomes negligible. With a VV or VW mod with a constant output, the noise at low frequency is a different issue. The only truly clean DC signal is an unregulated battery in a mech mod, anything else has a noise level.
Taste Your Juice | THE HEATVAPE INVADER MINI
Look at the signal pics... Very dirty
Taste Your Juice | THE SX-MINI M-CLASS BY YIHI REVIEW
Look at the signal photos.....pwm, but good freq...kind of like a dirty dc signal
Taste Your Juice | THE EVOLV DNA-40
Fairly clean signal
The changes caused by temp regulation isn't dirty signal, that's it doing its job.
I said it was subjective, I feel a difference.
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The scope traces are showing the voltage levels. For vaping we would need a "temperature scope", be able to see how much the temp varies, it's what makes the vapor.
Different signals may very well change the temperature responsiveness. Where when you take a puff, one mod set for 420 F may have a variance on +- 30 degrees, and another +- 2 degrees, the difference would be very noticeable. Nothing subjective about it, may be what you are experiencing.
How good a mod reacts to changes in temp of the coil has become more important than the waveform of the signal. Biggest problem I see is we have no true scientific way of measuring how well the temp regulations is really working.
All this TC stuff gives me a great answer next time I see a "Why vape mechs anymore?" post. 
I feel a difference and like the SX Mini pwm far better.
The screen shows it holding tightly around it's preset and it seems to vape that way.
The screen shows it holding tightly around it's preset and it seems to vape that way.
This talk is making me feel like I'm getting a migraine, parts of my field of view just disappear.All this TC stuff gives me a great answer next time I see a "Why vape mechs anymore?" post.
This talk is making me feel like I'm getting a migraine, parts of my field of view just disappear.
That's how I feel when they start with the infernal MATH.
Andria
I totally disagree. There is a substantial difference between my SX Mini, Vapor Shark, and Evic. my personal preference is the SX with PWM and I use the other 2 in power mode only now. They both work well in TC but the SX is that much better to me. What TC mod or mods do you use?
I found one of your old geometry testsThat's how I feel when they start with the infernal MATH.
Andria
No arguement that different mods perform TC differently, some better than others. My point was that IF (big If) the TC is working properly, and there is extremely little variance in the temperature, the electrical signal be it perfectly flat DC battery power or AC power isn't an issue. Our current crop of TC mods are regulating the temperature differently, and as a calculated value. Depends on how well they set up the equation that does the calculation.
I say just vape what ya got....
I don't think you catch what I'm sayin
The up/down changes in voltage is supposed to happen... Not at all what I'm talkin about. Put those mods in VW and look at their base signal output.... Some are far cleaner then others..... And I notice the difference. I'm not talking about temp changes...its a very hard to quantify punchiness/harshness, that some may like better, but I don't. Other then the 350j board in the sx mini that uses dc to dc in VW mode but pwm in tc, the mods signal being clean/dirty will translate into tc mode as well.
Many may not notice the difference, but some of us do, and prefer one over the other
All this tc talk reaffirms my thoughts of waiting another year or so for the industry to fully figure it out. That and my being cheap, and not wanting to buy something that will most likely end up as a brick once the chip dies.
golly I love my mechs.
golly I love my mechs.
There are some tc mods out now cheap enough just to get and try out and get your feet wet
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