The World's Tiniest E Cig... El ......!

[slopes]

Thanks for all the nice comments.

Of course, as the ONLY 6mm truely-micro vaping device currently available the El ...... is very easy to make for anyone who enjoys ecigs that are as small as (and even smaller than) the real thing.

Keeping in mind that the El ......'s 6mm diameter is the FINISHED size! with NO need for EXTRA, chunky plastic sleeves and bulky wiring to be fitted on top... then it's a sure winner (and I guess it will remain so for some considerable time!)

 

[Gracchus Grey]

so cool... I really hope you wind up selling these transatlantically! For the electro-incompetent, like me. It looks like a fantastic vaping experience, with the stainless and all.

 

[P-Dub]

Damn-It!!!!
Just when I thought I was going to be innovative and create this.... Damn-It! Very nicely done Slopes!
I had an idea and mine would be even simpler with all the same features as yours, just a little simpler but bigger/longer.

My idea is just to take a CE2 clearomizer and MOD it with the full length 3ml syringe or longer appropriately sized tube. Solder a positive and negative to the atty/batt connector from a batt box like you have done and voila. I like the metal mesh on the end, but I was just going to take the lint that collects in my belly button and glue it in the end. Hell, I could even solder a micro mini led and have that glow as well. Dunno if the light will penetrate the lint though. Will still be able to blow smoke out the end and I don't have to keep dripping. Yah! That was easy!

 

[VWFringe]

is it still your go to vape? any maintenance or tips?

please post pics with latest setup, or thoughts

question: since coil is nearer the lips does this mitigate or reduce the wattage one would want there? ...Any tips on custom atty coil ohm and wire recommendation?

would it be weird to hang battery from a finger? and what about battery size and wattage, better to use something a little bigger? or two 10440s would fit into lighter, then step-down? or is the smaller battery just fine? (sorry too many words)

had an idea to get rid of the wire, or part of it, by putting contact nipples on the e-cig, then touch them to a ring, but probably look strange wearing a ring way out there on my finger-tip


I wonder if a "Cordless El ......" would be possible using two of these ultracapacitors...i don't know how to figure out their capacity as it relates to e-cig, or how long you'd need to hold it against a battery to build up a charge again, guessing the bigger the battery the quicker...?

Tecate Powerburst TPL-28/12X40F

Electric Double Layer Capacitor (EDLC): PowerBurst® Ultracapacitor
28.0 F -10/+20%; 2.7V; L = 40.0mm, OD = 0.8mm; -40°C to +65°C

Features:
Small size and low-resistance
Quick charge & discharge
RoHS compliant

Applications:
Pulse power demand
Hybrid battery packs
Portable electronic devices

dreaming

 

[slopes]

VWFringe,

I use the El ...... and love it. The only problem is the tubing from an antenna is chromed brass - so I'm a bit worried about that. I bought some liquid on ebay to electroplate it with silver - but I'm not sure it that will make it safer (?).

A wireless version would be fantastic and the ultracapacitors look like a good way to go. If it's possible to get a ten minute charge out of these, that would make me happy as it would function like an analogue.

I thought about the ringed fingers too (LOL). The main problem being... if the El ...... is put down, the battery would short out if the two rings touched.

As for coils. I use the ones already in atomisers. This is only because the wires are already soldered onto them and they are more convenient to include in the device than trying to make my own. I'm sure the same material can be used as is used on the Genesis devices, but there is no room for connectors to + and - the power wires... so the soldered ready-mades are the better option.

I'm currently working on a very simple and amazing 'Roll-Your-Own' El ...... e cigarette. This will have an even narrower diameter than the current version, contain no brass parts - and it will be soft, just like the real thing!

EDIT: If anyone knows where to get some thin-walled stainless steel tubing from, I'd be glad to hear.

 

[VWFringe]

I researched ultracapacitors a bit - it would be possible for one 5 second puff, but would be 18mm diamter, and 85mm long, so, sorry...

but let me ask you, what wattage should I have calculated for?

4.5 volts
~2 amps
5 seconds
2 x ultracapacitors (OD: 18mm, L: 41)
plus two balancing resistors (prolly negligible)
LOL, sorry, too fat

but i've heard they're used to prolong battery life - so perhaps adding one to your circuit could help with the small battery situation

let me ask you - how many watts is comfortable?

thanks much!

EDIT: i think you're safe because your lips aren't contacting the leaded metal (and temp not too high to be prob), just the chromed surface..but i'm going to use a stainless steel tube from a battery probably, or borosilicate glass - i have a short tube with a reduction in the diameter in the middle i can mount inside it to provide the venturi you've described

 

[Gummy Bear]

- so perhaps adding one to your circuit could help with the small battery situation

I would think it would be more like 3 of them.
The idea is that the caps take the surges and the battery can just poke along, not working so hard to recharge the caps.

 

[Uma]

That is one sweet and brilliant mod!! I want one!!! Add me to the list when you're ready to list!

 

[VWFringe]

does the atty spit much, slopes?

i tried using my 510 without a tip - placed screen material down inside, and vaped with my mouth around the atty - should this approximate your experience at all? i know mine isn't an open tube, but wonder about the spitting and amount of liquid that gets into the mouth. thanks,

 

[slopes]

does the atty spit much, slopes?

i tried using my 510 without a tip - placed screen material down inside, and vaped with my mouth around the atty - should this approximate your experience at all? i know mine isn't an open tube, but wonder about the spitting and amount of liquid that gets into the mouth. thanks,

VWFringe - I'm not sure how your experiment works. On my device, I roll the mesh around the coil and then taper the end nearest the mouth a bit. I do get the occasional hot 'spit' which feels like a harmless soft pinprick on the tongue - but that's only when I've dripped too much juice in and/or not allowed it the penetrate into the mesh. Almost all of the time - it's pure vape. In my video, you'll see me giving the tube a quick flick with my finger after topping it up - that's just to help to juice soak in. A gentle blow down the end also resolves things quickly if it is sounding a bit bubbly after a refill.

 

[outofjuice]

does the atty spit much, slopes?

i dont think it will be much liquid in your mouth... well less the a standard atty i think... i mean theres more wick right?

 

[slopes]

If anyone is planning to make one of these, here is some thin-wall stainless steel tubing I have found.

30 Stainless Tubes 6.35mm dia x 0.25mm wall x 217 lg | eBay UK

My original device used chrome-plated brass from a telescopic antenna and I worried about the brass coming into repeated contact with the juice. I have been searching around for a stainless steel equivalent for a while and it seems very hard to find in such a thin-wall spec - so this guy's supply is a great discovery.

His 6mm stuff is just too narrow to fit the ceramic fuses I have, but they slide into his 6.35mm tubes without any fuss at all. He has plenty of other sizes too - which could be very useful for modders. Although based in the UK, he posts worldwide and his prices are cheap! Very nice stuff.

 

[tcole]

Very nice.

 

[VWFringe]

here's a picture of my experiment to see if i could immitate the feel of the vapor, just a couple of screens stuck down into the atty, and i was hitting with my mouth around the atty

does the atty spit much, slopes?

i tried using my 510 without a tip - placed screen material down inside, and vaped with my mouth around the atty - should this approximate your experience at all? i know mine isn't an open tube, but wonder about the spitting and amount of liquid that gets into the mouth. thanks,

 

[slopes]

VWFringe - It looks like you are sucking heated juice into your mouth - rather than it spitting. My mod - and all mods - is based on the same principle used on the commercial atties... air passes freely around the heated element and collects vaporised juice on the way. On your mod, the air has nowhere to go but through the suspended juice and ends up taking hot juice along with it.

 

[VWFringe]

no, sorry, the screens don't hold any liquid, they're just there to block the liquid being spit "up" from the de-bridged and de-wicked coil at the bottom - it spit a lot before i put the screens, and after it made it hard to drip (down the side)