Waste of space? I'd give you some good advice on how to get an e-cig to like you expect, but my reply to you would be a........waste of space
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Waste of space? I'd give you some good advice on how to get an e-cig to like you expect, but my reply to you would be a........waste of space
IF YOU GUYS ARE DONE FIGHTING NOW, I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING!
There's another thread going, a discussion about
New style atomizers
Give it a look see, and see if the original poster on this thread didn't run into the SAME PROBLEM.
My assessment of my trouble is the atomziers with the high bridge
are giving me fits!!! After two solid months of really enjoying my DSE-801, all at once there is a problem with it??? I don't think so, and if that guy is having the same problem I am, BACK OFF, cause he's got a point.
They are AWFUL.
There's another thread going, a discussion about
New style atomizers
Give it a look see, and see if the original poster on this thread didn't run into the SAME PROBLEM.
My assessment of my trouble is the atomziers with the high bridge
are giving me fits!!! After two solid months of really enjoying my DSE-801, all at once there is a problem with it??? I don't think so, and if that guy is having the same problem I am, BACK OFF, cause he's got a point.
They are AWFUL.
Yes, there are some retailers/suppliers who over hype the product and build up expectations to a simply unrealistic level. For the most part however, the suppliers you'll find on this forum don't do that. Except for....well...never mind.
It really all goes back to the old saying: "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." But you have come to the right place to cut thru the BS and simply learn a lot about e-cigs.
Welcome to Vaping !
Everyone with a non-working e-cig that plan to give up on them are more than welcome to send your pieces of junk to me. I'd be happy to take them off your hands.
E-cigs are a PITA. They do have a long way to go. Why is it that anyone who voices their frustration with them gets trashed here!! I love having an E-Cig and have not BOUGHT cigarettes in 9 1/2 weeks. I do not however, believe I have to be a cheerleader for them and deny that there are problems. They are a PITA. Smoking is easy, light it, smoke it, put it out, dump the ashtray, take an extra pack, buy more... til you die. These might kill me too. They are a hassle. I like that the smoke and smell is gone. I like that I don't have that crackle in my chest at night, the brown stuff in my nose, the stains on my teeth... I like that I don't get smoke in my eyes, have butts all over the yard, wonder if I left one lit, have to put it out, have to find my lighter.... the list goes on...
But you don't just pick up an E-cig and all is well. It's a PITA too, just a different one. And the product could be better. Give the OP a break
But you don't just pick up an E-cig and all is well. It's a PITA too, just a different one. And the product could be better. Give the OP a break
Ever tried smoking a pipe? The small annoyances presented by e-cigs on occasion are as nothing compared to the frustration that pipes can cause on a bad day. Won't draw properly - draw too light - too hard - tarry taste despite clean - burnt shirt - tar on shirt - hole in carpet .....Give me an Evo or a Janty Stick any day! 
E-cigs are like the old Slim Jim Commercials. Either you like em, or you don't.Ever tried smoking a pipe? The small annoyances presented by e-cigs on occasion are as nothing compared to the frustration that pipes can cause on a bad day. Won't draw properly - draw too light - too hard - tarry taste despite clean - burnt shirt - tar on shirt - hole in carpet .....Give me an Evo or a Janty Stick any day!
Best alternative I have ever seen. I mean doesn't one have to expect some transition issues. I know I did and it was a hassle to find my prefered device and routine.
I know the feeling. These things are not up to par with other tech things on the market. Like a TV, DVD player, cell phone, video game console, ect. youd like them to work as advertised but with these they are sometimes hit and miss. Not all the time, but sometimes. I stocked up on some parts and stuff, people defidently made money off of me, but my oh my has my health improved so to me its been worth it, despite the frustration.
It comes down to how much someone wants to put up with the shortcomings of a chinese device that has varying manufacturing, and sometimes very poor, standards and sometimes its not worth it for some people. Again, I understand any frustration experienced by new users, as these cost a good amount of money and we expect them to work. Things will hopefully get better in future versions of e-cigs.
It comes down to how much someone wants to put up with the shortcomings of a chinese device that has varying manufacturing, and sometimes very poor, standards and sometimes its not worth it for some people. Again, I understand any frustration experienced by new users, as these cost a good amount of money and we expect them to work. Things will hopefully get better in future versions of e-cigs.
I have occasional problems, but nothing I can't handle. You have to consider people who are not mechanically or electrically inclined. Some people just can't handle the e-cig. Some newbies are being bombarded with suggestions that they just can't understand, and then they get disappointed when everything fails on them. I prefer to see the newbies start simple, and then work their way up at their own pace.
I agree with that. The hit and miss part of e-cigs exasperate the problem for newcomers I think, and thats a shame. I love all my e-ciggies and parts and juice, for all my love of them, if they all failed on me at once Id be reconsidering the whole idea of e-smoking with incredible dissapointment. As a newbie, I started simple with some research into how this works, then kept reading this forum and other sources to learn more about the ins and outs. My best advice for a newbie is to keep trying, this noob has gone almost 3 weeks analog free so far
, but if they absolutely cant handle the mechanical problems that are almost inevitable, they cant handle e-smoking in its current state.
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I got my first ecig a few weeks ago and decided I had a problem with the charger. Called the supplier, they shipped me another one (didn't ask me to send it back, just tossed it in the mail along with a couple free packs of carts) and now everything works fine.
Now having done the typical newbie thing (i want one that looks like a cigarette lol), I am over that and hoping my 510, arrives tomorrow...I can't wait!
Bet you coughed a lot with your first few cigs...everything has a learning curve. If you really want it to work, then you gotta give it a better run.
Good luck waiting for a retail location. If you don't have one by now, don't hold your breath. You don't give a location, but if you're in the US, rest assured your government is doing all they can to keep you on analogs, hence the online sales.
And all the suppliers on this forum that I have asked questions of have been very helpful and gracious.
I'm not a supplier...apparently that bs meter you use to detect dishonesty is broken.
Now having done the typical newbie thing (i want one that looks like a cigarette lol), I am over that and hoping my 510, arrives tomorrow...I can't wait!
Bet you coughed a lot with your first few cigs...everything has a learning curve. If you really want it to work, then you gotta give it a better run.
Good luck waiting for a retail location. If you don't have one by now, don't hold your breath. You don't give a location, but if you're in the US, rest assured your government is doing all they can to keep you on analogs, hence the online sales.
And all the suppliers on this forum that I have asked questions of have been very helpful and gracious.
I'm not a supplier...apparently that bs meter you use to detect dishonesty is broken.
Your so right JIm Davis, and there is a learning curve. I have been at this 1 years the end of this month (don't what day) and it takes a little work effort than going and getting a pack of cigarettes.
Getting rid of the cough and breathing better are priceless, so e-cig are worth all the extra effort.
People don't understand the learning curve as you say. Some people can't understand a DVD player, and they jump into an e-cig thinking they'll just puff and everything will come out peachy. It just don't work that way. (No offense intended to anybody.)
I posted this in another thread:
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I guess we were just lucky. A month ago, I ordered a DSE901 kit + 2 extra batts + 1 extra atty + a USB charger + a 15ml bottle of 36mg Camel juice + 5 blank carts from e-smokeytreats. My wife and I are (were) both heavy smokers.
I opened the box, put two 901's together, dripped them, put the two spare batts into the two chargers, and haven't stopped vaping since!
I ordered more juice, 4 extra attys and a 2nd wall charger as soon as we decided that vaping was for us. I've cleaned one atty in boiling water one time (no difference really). I blow the 2 attys out every few days (from the batt end) and change the poly filling once a week or so. I put 2-3 drops on atty at the start of each vaping session - and wet the cart 3-4 times a day. We both do a LOT of vaping.
Still using the first attys (except for a test of the 4 spares) and all is well. From what I read, we have been lucky. Original attys and batts and still lots of vapor.
I do NOT recommend our method, but it does show that luck and a good supplier have something to do with the experience. I think this whole vaping thing is GREAT - and so does my wife.
Just my 901 experience. I have ordered 3 spare batts since (and more juice, of course). I've been cutting the 36mg juice with Humco glycerin (99.5% USP) from Walmart - 2/3 juice to 1/3 glycerin for 3 weeks - no ill effects yet.
Happy vaping!
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As I said, maybe we just got lucky. But, as such, we are both e-cig advocates in a BIG way. Sure, they can be a pain, but so are analogs sometimes. My batts last 3 to 4 hours - and freshly charged ones are always ready in the charger, so no problem. I usually take 5 to 10 puffs, then set it down. 10-15 minutes later, I repeat. Every other cycle, I drip 3 drops directly onto atty. Every couple of hours, I put 2 drops on atty and 1 drop on the poly-fill in the cart. The vapor declines some during the last hour or so of battery life.
This method has worked for nearly 5 weeks for both me and my wife. Beats the heck out of analogs! We are thrilled at this point.
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I guess we were just lucky. A month ago, I ordered a DSE901 kit + 2 extra batts + 1 extra atty + a USB charger + a 15ml bottle of 36mg Camel juice + 5 blank carts from e-smokeytreats. My wife and I are (were) both heavy smokers.
I opened the box, put two 901's together, dripped them, put the two spare batts into the two chargers, and haven't stopped vaping since!
I ordered more juice, 4 extra attys and a 2nd wall charger as soon as we decided that vaping was for us. I've cleaned one atty in boiling water one time (no difference really). I blow the 2 attys out every few days (from the batt end) and change the poly filling once a week or so. I put 2-3 drops on atty at the start of each vaping session - and wet the cart 3-4 times a day. We both do a LOT of vaping.
Still using the first attys (except for a test of the 4 spares) and all is well. From what I read, we have been lucky. Original attys and batts and still lots of vapor.
I do NOT recommend our method, but it does show that luck and a good supplier have something to do with the experience. I think this whole vaping thing is GREAT - and so does my wife.
Just my 901 experience. I have ordered 3 spare batts since (and more juice, of course). I've been cutting the 36mg juice with Humco glycerin (99.5% USP) from Walmart - 2/3 juice to 1/3 glycerin for 3 weeks - no ill effects yet.
Happy vaping!
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New material:
As I said, maybe we just got lucky. But, as such, we are both e-cig advocates in a BIG way. Sure, they can be a pain, but so are analogs sometimes. My batts last 3 to 4 hours - and freshly charged ones are always ready in the charger, so no problem. I usually take 5 to 10 puffs, then set it down. 10-15 minutes later, I repeat. Every other cycle, I drip 3 drops directly onto atty. Every couple of hours, I put 2 drops on atty and 1 drop on the poly-fill in the cart. The vapor declines some during the last hour or so of battery life.
This method has worked for nearly 5 weeks for both me and my wife. Beats the heck out of analogs! We are thrilled at this point.
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Just echoing what everyone else has said. In a nutshell, the hardware and juice should both be more consistent and reliable. There's no question about that. But any emerging technology is going to have some issues, and on the spectrum of awful to perfect, the PV is well over the line towards being perfect. They just require some small adjustments to get everything working right. You do have to futz with them some, but it's a very small price to pay for a superior "smoking" experience. Plus, as they become more popular, they'll evolve and get more reliable. Just as long as the government doesn't shut them down altogether.
I also received my atomisers in a pack of 5 in a white box from ruyandirect.com. I also have had problems with my SD 2 times.
I bet those dam atomisers were the cause!
Should I NOT buy from them anymore? OR was I just unlucky?
He's Mad as Hell and can't take it anymore. lol I was too.
There is a learning curve, and the main thing is you have to want to cut down on anallog use. The nicotine will get into you, but you'll still want a cigarette. I've had 10 in a week, but they taste horible now. E-cigs ruined my $5.65 a day love of Marlboro's and I'm happy.
Addiction is a hard thing to change, but we are all trying and you should too. If not-
Write back when you have lung cancer and tell us how that is going. Don't bring me down with your oh poor me talk.
There is a learning curve, and the main thing is you have to want to cut down on anallog use. The nicotine will get into you, but you'll still want a cigarette. I've had 10 in a week, but they taste horible now. E-cigs ruined my $5.65 a day love of Marlboro's and I'm happy.
Addiction is a hard thing to change, but we are all trying and you should too. If not-
Write back when you have lung cancer and tell us how that is going. Don't bring me down with your oh poor me talk.
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