Thanks!! I just ordered some, your right the cartridges do not last nearly long enough. But curious which liquid you would recommend?
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Thanks!! I just ordered some, your right the cartridges do not last nearly long enough. But curious which liquid you would recommend?
Besides my first juice direct from e-cig.com in China over a year ago, since I started ecigs again last October I've only ever bought from Johnson Creek, Puresmoker and Bestecig (also in China) so far. I preferred the PureSmoker and Bestecig liquids over Johnson Creek, but many here love Johnson Creek. Plus, there's tons of other sites as well, so best to get some other recommendations, or check out the liquid review sub-forum here for plenty of existing opinions:
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I just have to make a comment somewhere on here about my experience and something all new users should consider. If you are going to purchase one unit as your first unit...PLEASE BUY A PENSTYLE ! I purchased a couple of super minis as my first go and they were okay...but the throat hit and vapor from a penstyle is far superior. I just don't think its worth the difference in size to sacrafice for the super mini. I have been buying my units from njoy...I know ...I know...they are a little more expensive. But seriously...I just got my penstyle a few days ago and can't believe I wasted my time with the smaller units. I use mint chocolate liquid with zero nic mixed with some low nic every once in a while and I do not miss real cigs at all and its been a month. Just trust me...for people just looking into e-cigs...buy a penstyle or medium size unit for yur first unit.
Have you tried dripping with your minis? 2-3 drops on the pad each time you smoke is a MUCH better experience. It rivals the penstyle. Also, try plugging one of the holes in the gold band.
If your superminis were of the dse 103 type, try the atomisers on a usb passthrough. You'll be impressed!
Lacey and Pipeman...you are probably right. I had tried dripping but just found it sort of high maintenance. I know the first few drags with a fresh battery were pretty good..so the USB Passthrough would probably make a big difference. I feel bad for people that don't have a good experience with their first device because I want people to know these things can work and they can ditch their analog cigs like I did. I just figured if I was going to walk the streets and get people to try these I would feel most comfortable using a Penstyle at this point because I know they hit fairly strong. Thanks for your advice guys.
Darren - It is all about getting comfortable. You are changing your brand. This is a big shock and you are right, if your first unit doesn't work properly and your supplier isn't a help, it can be devastating.
Either way, get comfortable with your penstyle since that is your style, and then learn your mini. You might find someone on the street one day you can just "lend a smoke too" who would be forever grateful
Either way, get comfortable with your penstyle since that is your style, and then learn your mini. You might find someone on the street one day you can just "lend a smoke too" who would be forever grateful
Hello everyone!
I'm new to these forums, but I've read just about every troubleshooting thread you guys have posted. I'm so glad there is a decent community for the e-cigs since I have a ton of questions and you all seem extremely helpful and friendly.
I'm sorry for posting a reply here, but I was unable to start a new thread.
I bought an SE 3.0 (RN4081) last week and received it yesterday. As instructed, I impatiently waited for the battery to charge for 8 hours (interminable), I really wanted to try it out. Once it finished charging, I took it home, replaced the atomizer and put in a newly-opened cartridge.
It took a few puffs, and then started worked very well. I spent the next 2-3 hours getting used to the vapor sensation and the new taste (I smoke Camel Light analogs).
I then put the e-cig, fully assembled, back into it's case and placed the second battery into the charger to charge over night.
To my surprise, when I woke in the morning, I was unable to get vapor from the e-cig!
The atomizer would warm up if I puffed on it long enough, and I would occasionally (one in 20 puffs) get a small bit of vapor.
My first thought was that it was a battery problem, (I had not read these forums yet), so I switched out the other battery I had charged all night. I received the same result. The LED would light up when I would take a drag, and the atomizer would warm up quite a bit, but only one small puff of vapor at the start, and then nothing after that.
Distraught, I finally found these forums (cue heavenly music), and read for about 2 hours straight.
I've tried just about anything and everything I found, bar poking something into my atomizer (I didn't want to risk damaging it beyond repair). I cleaned it out, blew on it, "lashed" it, switched out for a brand new cartridge and I still get the same results from my cig.
Is it possible my atomizer is dried out? And if so, I have seen mention of putting liquid/glycerine on it (if I understood correctly) and I was unsure if I could do this with water, or needed to purchase some glycerine, etc.
Is it possible that the 2 carts I used are "dry" or faulty? Is there a way to wet the cart correctly?
I am sorry for the massive wall of text, but I am extremely curious about this product and determined to make it work. And I see tons of you on the forums that are extremely happy with your product and I want to be happy like you!
If you can offer any advice, I would be extremely appreciative.
-- Scrawny
I'm new to these forums, but I've read just about every troubleshooting thread you guys have posted. I'm so glad there is a decent community for the e-cigs since I have a ton of questions and you all seem extremely helpful and friendly.
I'm sorry for posting a reply here, but I was unable to start a new thread.
I bought an SE 3.0 (RN4081) last week and received it yesterday. As instructed, I impatiently waited for the battery to charge for 8 hours (interminable), I really wanted to try it out. Once it finished charging, I took it home, replaced the atomizer and put in a newly-opened cartridge.
It took a few puffs, and then started worked very well. I spent the next 2-3 hours getting used to the vapor sensation and the new taste (I smoke Camel Light analogs).
I then put the e-cig, fully assembled, back into it's case and placed the second battery into the charger to charge over night.
To my surprise, when I woke in the morning, I was unable to get vapor from the e-cig!
The atomizer would warm up if I puffed on it long enough, and I would occasionally (one in 20 puffs) get a small bit of vapor.
My first thought was that it was a battery problem, (I had not read these forums yet), so I switched out the other battery I had charged all night. I received the same result. The LED would light up when I would take a drag, and the atomizer would warm up quite a bit, but only one small puff of vapor at the start, and then nothing after that.
Distraught, I finally found these forums (cue heavenly music), and read for about 2 hours straight.
I've tried just about anything and everything I found, bar poking something into my atomizer (I didn't want to risk damaging it beyond repair). I cleaned it out, blew on it, "lashed" it, switched out for a brand new cartridge and I still get the same results from my cig.
Is it possible my atomizer is dried out? And if so, I have seen mention of putting liquid/glycerine on it (if I understood correctly) and I was unsure if I could do this with water, or needed to purchase some glycerine, etc.
Is it possible that the 2 carts I used are "dry" or faulty? Is there a way to wet the cart correctly?
I am sorry for the massive wall of text, but I am extremely curious about this product and determined to make it work. And I see tons of you on the forums that are extremely happy with your product and I want to be happy like you!
If you can offer any advice, I would be extremely appreciative.
-- Scrawny
scrawny - if you puffed on it a lot, then your cart could be dry. Did you try another cartridge? When you get comfortable with the whole e-cig idea, try the liquid. Dripping on the 4081 is SO much better. You will get good vapor each time. It sounds to me like you may have sucked it dry.
Keep your cartridges by the way.... they can be re-used with the e-liquid.
Keep your cartridges by the way.... they can be re-used with the e-liquid.
Hi Scrawny, welcome to the forum.
You can't really use just water to wet your cartridges, it just produces steam. Propylene glycol or glycerine simulate smoke so you need one of them or some commercial eliquid.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/2562-helpful-links-videos-new-user.html
You can't really use just water to wet your cartridges, it just produces steam. Propylene glycol or glycerine simulate smoke so you need one of them or some commercial eliquid.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/2562-helpful-links-videos-new-user.html
Hi Lacey,
Thanks for the info!
I did replace the cartridge, however I used a cart that I had previously opened and left out, without replacing the cap. It had only been used once to test. Do you think it's possible that this one has dried out as well, because I did not properly store it? Does that happen with cartridges?
Would getting a "4081" mean getting an entirely new e-cig model? And what other equipment would I need to start "dripping" on my own? Are there any FAQs or instructions regarding this that I could look up?
Thank you so much for the quick reply, I am excited and frustrated by this new product and I'm really eager to get it working consistently.
-- Scrawny
Thanks for the info!
I did replace the cartridge, however I used a cart that I had previously opened and left out, without replacing the cap. It had only been used once to test. Do you think it's possible that this one has dried out as well, because I did not properly store it? Does that happen with cartridges?
Would getting a "4081" mean getting an entirely new e-cig model? And what other equipment would I need to start "dripping" on my own? Are there any FAQs or instructions regarding this that I could look up?
Thank you so much for the quick reply, I am excited and frustrated by this new product and I'm really eager to get it working consistently.
-- Scrawny
Scrawny - I mentioned the 4081 because you did... I assume your SE is the 4081... I smoke the same style, just not from SE.
It IS very possible that it dried out. We are actually going to move away from selling carts because they just aren't as great as dripping. There is nothing that can be done, but during shipping, the liquid just naturally drips out of the cartridge. Also, if you are going off of the SE claims, well, sad to say but you will not get 20 cigarettes out of it. You will fall more into the 3-6 range depending on what type of smoker you are and that is if your cartridge is full and hasn't leaked in travel OR dried out over time.
Get a fully charged battery and a brand new cart and try again. I think you will find that your cart is just empty and since you are expecting 20 cigs, you are in that mind set. I am so sorry those claims are out there. It sucks. But they are. Then, get yourself some eliquid and start dripping. You will be a happier camper... I promise
Try the fresh charged battery and new cart and come back and give us an assessment. If that doesn't work... we can try something else.
It IS very possible that it dried out. We are actually going to move away from selling carts because they just aren't as great as dripping. There is nothing that can be done, but during shipping, the liquid just naturally drips out of the cartridge. Also, if you are going off of the SE claims, well, sad to say but you will not get 20 cigarettes out of it. You will fall more into the 3-6 range depending on what type of smoker you are and that is if your cartridge is full and hasn't leaked in travel OR dried out over time.
Get a fully charged battery and a brand new cart and try again. I think you will find that your cart is just empty and since you are expecting 20 cigs, you are in that mind set. I am so sorry those claims are out there. It sucks. But they are. Then, get yourself some eliquid and start dripping. You will be a happier camper... I promise
Try the fresh charged battery and new cart and come back and give us an assessment. If that doesn't work... we can try something else.
Thank you everyone for the replies and help!
Kate those videos were excellent and helped me quite a bit.
Lacey, sorry I had a brain fart over the 4081 thing (dur). You were right, I was just expecting the cartridge to last longer than it was and the other cart I had used looks like it drained out. Using a fresh one, I had no problems.
Following your advice, I have ordered some of the eliquid and will hopefully get more bang for my buck out of my cartridges.
Thanks again everyone and I'll let you know how it goes.
-- Scrawny
Kate those videos were excellent and helped me quite a bit.
Lacey, sorry I had a brain fart over the 4081 thing (dur). You were right, I was just expecting the cartridge to last longer than it was and the other cart I had used looks like it drained out. Using a fresh one, I had no problems.
Following your advice, I have ordered some of the eliquid and will hopefully get more bang for my buck out of my cartridges.
Thanks again everyone and I'll let you know how it goes.
-- Scrawny
As rude as I think the original poster was...I understand where he is coming from. The retailers and their sites promote these devices like any other quality device. I was lucky enough to stumble on this forum and ask some up-front questions before spending my first $140 on startup supplies.
If I were to purchase a $140 MP3 player that operated as flaky as an e-cig, I'm sure I would be ...... too. And many retailers do make it seem like they just work. Fact is...they don't. You have to have, or get into that hacker mentality and commit to the device and practice...even when it doesn't reciprocate.
In my opinion...anyone who doesn't view this "new habit" from the same perspective as restoring a classic car...is destine to be unhappy. And rightfully so. It costs money, requires more effort than it should, and there are "rules" to follow. In the end...is it worth it? Yes for some...No for others.
The one thing the original poster got right though, is that we are basically beta testers for a prototype product. It won't be ready for "prime time" for the average smoker until you can get it at Walmart.
Mark
PS: I literally just got my order and am charging as I speak. Wish me luck. I'm sure I'll need it. Especially since it took me a few moments to figure out that on my super mini...what looked like two pieces was actually three after you realize you have to pull off the cartridge that comes attached...without any such instructions in the manual.
If I were to purchase a $140 MP3 player that operated as flaky as an e-cig, I'm sure I would be ...... too. And many retailers do make it seem like they just work. Fact is...they don't. You have to have, or get into that hacker mentality and commit to the device and practice...even when it doesn't reciprocate.
In my opinion...anyone who doesn't view this "new habit" from the same perspective as restoring a classic car...is destine to be unhappy. And rightfully so. It costs money, requires more effort than it should, and there are "rules" to follow. In the end...is it worth it? Yes for some...No for others.
The one thing the original poster got right though, is that we are basically beta testers for a prototype product. It won't be ready for "prime time" for the average smoker until you can get it at Walmart.
Mark
PS: I literally just got my order and am charging as I speak. Wish me luck. I'm sure I'll need it. Especially since it took me a few moments to figure out that on my super mini...what looked like two pieces was actually three after you realize you have to pull off the cartridge that comes attached...without any such instructions in the manual.
I've been e-smoking now for 4 1/2 weeks and am still using my first e-cig dse901.
If I had not read this forum I am sure that by now I too would be saying how useless the e-cig is.You are probably smoking (vaping) the cartridge dry.Buy some juice to top up the carts and you'll soon enjoy the e-cig more than analogue cigs.
Any newcomers to e-cigs please read the info on this site to help you get the best out of e-smoking.
Ps I am not a supplier,just a very happy customer who has not smoked tobacco for 4 1/2 weeks after smoking it for 34 years.
julie
I would agree with that, I quit in January and hope to never go back to analogs, and I too am not a supplier, just a consumer that loves my dse-901
I got my 3.0 gold at a mall in MA.I had it 1 wk I has 3 or 4 problems.One was batt. second was adomizer.third not sure.They replace whole unit last time.My experance was lack of knowledge these things are tempermental.Threw this site and using e-cig I figured it out.I,m glad i went to the mall even tho i paid way too much.Every time i had a issue i went back and could get it fixed talking to a person not a computer this too me is worth the extra cash.I love the e-cig now that i can use it properly,All i need is the jui8ce i orderdand goood too gooo
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Hi all - new here, and I have to say that in spite mr.flamypants who started it all, this thread has really helped me take an overall look at the e-cig phenom, what it is and where it's going. I am writing an article about this technology and this thread has shown me a great way to approach it. I purchased this product on a whim, because I refuse to pay any more tobacco taxes and my smoke shop wants some pigs to give them feedback. I purchased the Envy Bliss - cute little thing with 5 extra cartridges. While I have my complaints - it does not work perfectly - the statement that these are not even comparable to analogue is correct. It is a different animal, and the bugs are being worked on, and as a user you have to educate yourself. The upside is that the culture seems to have built around the ability to use the products differently and modify the thing to suit your tastes. Yes, it's beta and there are bugs, and it can be pricey to experiment, but in the end I'm sitting here thinking that i'd rather be frustrated and figure this out then smell like .... 
Anyway, thank you to all of you smoking geeks who understand the value of this new technology and are willing to share your experiences with others.
On that note, how do I get the liquid to stop leaking out of the hole? In the end I will likely buy a model requiring less pull to get the hit, but for now I'd like to get my fifty bucks worth. Yes, the claim of "cartridge=pack" is false, but I won't care later because I am already smoking less and eventually will enjoy filling my own and experimenting with flavors.
How do I stop the leaky out the hole?
Anyway, thank you to all of you smoking geeks who understand the value of this new technology and are willing to share your experiences with others.
On that note, how do I get the liquid to stop leaking out of the hole? In the end I will likely buy a model requiring less pull to get the hit, but for now I'd like to get my fifty bucks worth. Yes, the claim of "cartridge=pack" is false, but I won't care later because I am already smoking less and eventually will enjoy filling my own and experimenting with flavors.
How do I stop the leaky out the hole?
Michelle,
If you are using prefilled carts, just have a tissue handy to get started. Also, store your ecig LED up in your pocket/purse etc. This will allow the liquid to settle in the wick and not drip all over the inside of the mouthpiece.
If you are using liquid and still new to dripping, try taking the cartridge out when you prefill your carts. You can stick a toothpick through the hole and push and that will pop the cart out. Then fill outside of the mouthpiece. Once you get more accustomed to dripping or you can find a dripper bottle with a long and skinny spout.
Either way, you have pointed out one of the flaws of the cartridges and when it comes to gravity pulling that liquid from your cart, there is no way to stop it.
Good luck with your article!
If you are using prefilled carts, just have a tissue handy to get started. Also, store your ecig LED up in your pocket/purse etc. This will allow the liquid to settle in the wick and not drip all over the inside of the mouthpiece.
If you are using liquid and still new to dripping, try taking the cartridge out when you prefill your carts. You can stick a toothpick through the hole and push and that will pop the cart out. Then fill outside of the mouthpiece. Once you get more accustomed to dripping or you can find a dripper bottle with a long and skinny spout.
Either way, you have pointed out one of the flaws of the cartridges and when it comes to gravity pulling that liquid from your cart, there is no way to stop it.
Good luck with your article!
I'm not sure if you've got this problem but this sounds kinda like my experience, give or take on how many drags I can take. I would pull the cart out, 'top it off' and put it back in. Not sure if you've tried that. That got kinda old especially after I got my USB pass thru (seemed to dry the carts up even faster) so I moved onto 'dripping' and don't bother with the carts. Same kinda thing, but 8-12 better drags (more vape/throat hit I think) and I'm popping off the blank mouth piece and dripping 2-3 drops.
But yeah, these things do seem tempermental - and a bit on the high maintenance side. I hope you can get them to work out for you, if not then I hope you find something else that does.
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