These things just don't work.

[TropicalBob]

Seeing as how none of it has any kind of real testing behind it.. your fact is as good as mine.

Actually, one of the real values of forums is that they provide consensus opinion. If you read the many posts, you merge the opinions of many individuals into a kind of group-think opinion. And that's what you have here. A poll will be fine, Consumer Reports testing would be fine, but if you read around here you'll see that the consensus is that e-cig batteries do not last a day, certainly not two days. Pipe? Maybe. Cigar? Close, but no. Any e-cig, not even close.

Look forward to the poll.

 

[Tumbleweed4829]

Maybe I should be buying my 901's from you Liberate because my batteries never last that long. Oh wait...no way because you DO charge more than where I'm buying them now. I don't see how your batteries are any different than the ones I'm buying now so no idea how you get yours to last a whole day let alone 2 days. Even brand new mine do not last that long and that is using it on 2 breaks and a lunch period during the day and by the time I get home after using it in the car on my ay home it dies within an hour...so all in all that would only be maybe all of a 4 hour use.

 

[Bertrand]

Pipe? Maybe. Cigar? Close, but no.

How exactly did you resist?

 

[ZambucaLu]

I almost started a thread to ask which batteries are the strongest, last the longest and are reasonably priced to replace. Outside of the Screwdriver (which seems to be the best), I was wondering about ecigs, pipes and cigars. So would it seem the pipe batteries would be next?

Lu

 

[PeteMcArthur]

Pipe batteries are very similar to the screwdriver batteries, so duration is basically the same. Cigar batteries come next, then penstyle, 901 and supermini's.

The only exception to this rule I've found is the Litecig M-401 which has a puzzling long battery life for it's size. That's not to say it's anywhere near the SD or Cigar but it does very well for it's size

 

[ZambucaLu]

Thanks for the info Pete. Do these things have atomizers? I was just looking at the pipe on the Litecig site. I didn't see atomizers for it.

Lu

 

[PeteMcArthur]

Thanks for the info Pete. Do these things have atomizers? I was just looking at the pipe on the Litecig site. I didn't see atomizers for it.

Lu

The atomiser for the pipe is the actual body, you have to throw the hole thing away I think LiteCig USA do replacements, I'm not sure if the EU site does. You can get similar from e-cig.com but I would not recommend that company under any circumstances.

 

[TropicalBob]

A pipe battery can indeed last me a day. The atomizer is deep inside the pipe, meaning it is NOT replaceable without throwing away almost all of the pipe. As Trog has pointed out since he used so many of these .. what a waste! My own experience with a rechargeable real-size cigar is that the battery lasts about four hours. The "bling" e-cigar battery lasted me about me same. Pen style batts last two to four hours, max, for me. I no longer fool with any "mini" type cig.

That sad fact has led me to use the USB cable much of the time, and use the car cord whenever I'm driving. One battery can't make it 60 miles for me! The car cord is a godsend.

 

[ZambucaLu]

I see. Thanks Pete.

Lu

 

[ZambucaLu]

Thanks Bob. As you might know, I use the usb cig from bestecig and I love it. However, I just found out it does not work with the usb car adapter I just got (luckily that was only $2 to try!). I also found out that the cig doesn't work on my work laptop. That is plugged into a docking station and for some reason, I can only get a very little charge from it (same as the car adapter). It's really not smokable. I have one last resort....my usb home charger which I am expecting next week. At least I could plug that in at work (if it works with it).

I often travel to Buffalo (120 miles one way). I have also had good luck with my stand alone penstyle cig but I can't be worried about battery loss on such a long trip. Right now I use it interchangeably with my usb cig and it lasts me all day but I obviously won't be able to do that in the car. Drat!

Are Litecig and e-cig.com the only ones who carry affordable pipes?

Lu

 

[Di]

for those who want portable usb power,

buy a 4 aa battery -- usb outlet power pack.

7.00 from darkwire .....

google it, mine works great .....

Di .....

 

[Kate]

Here is the poll about the 901 batteries - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...discussion/3879-dse901-mini-battery-life.html

There have been 39 votes to date and there are few votes for more than four hours.

 

[ZambucaLu]

for those who want portable usb power,

buy a 4 aa battery -- usb outlet power pack.

7.00 from darkwire .....

google it, mine works great .....

Di .....

Thanks for the tip Di. I would never have known about this. Since it works for you, I think I'll give it a shot. Will let ya know how it goes!

Lu

 

[Kate]

Since this thread is partly about myth busting, here is some information about what you can really expect from cartridges:

Super Minis (RN4081, RN4088, DSE103, etc...):
About 1-3 cigs worth (20-30 puffs)
Mini (DSE901, etc...):
5-6 cigs worth (50-75 puffs depending on how you puff)
Pen (DSE801, RN4072, etc...):
7-10 cigs worth (up to about 100 puffs)
eCigar:
10-12 cigs worth (up to about 120-130 puffs)
Pipe (DSE601, etc...)
Atleast 14-15 cigs worth. Carts are massive

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ons-consolidated-into-one-post.html#post59240

 

[lizphoenix]

I'm in complete agreement with you. I am finding the whole experience of e-cigs very frustrating. My starter kit arrived and despite charging batteries etc., it only produced 'smoke' about 10 times over 2 days. The suppliers told me to send the atomiser back, 'special delivery' (£4.60) and a replacement atomiser was delivered a week later -no refund on postage - however, it worked fine except - the cartridges are now running out way faster than was indicated in the hilariously translated instruction book and the battery charger is dodgy too. And yes, quite, you can't pop to the local corner shop and top up. Smokers (and particularly people considering cutting back on their smoking or quitting altogether) need something reliable.

 

[Bertrand]

Smokers (and particularly people considering cutting back on their smoking or quitting altogether) need something reliable.

I think that's everyone who buys this. Solution is: USB or Screwdriver with a pile of atomizers and e-liquid.

 

[SuperStack]

One thing about e-smoking that I've quickly learned, it's better to have everything stocked up in spades - batteries, atomizers, juice, carts, and spare rechargers (I'm going to be running multiple chargers at a time soon because swapping between only 2 batteries is cutting it way too close for me, and that's on a pen - it'll be even worse for a 901).

So yes, it'll cost some cash up front, but better in the long run because there's nothing worse than having one item needed and then having to wait for it to be shipped in the mail. The temptation to revert back to analogs will be extreme if that occurs.

I'm going through a lot more juice than I originally thought. It's especially important to have a lot of that stockpiled. Sometimes your supplier may temporarily run out which will delay the next shipment, for example. So a personal inventory is needed at all times to act as a bit of slack.

 

[benjamin]

"it's better to have everything stocked up in spades"
amen to that! i underestimated how much juice i would go through with my first order. felt like a junky this evening -drawing up the last bit of liquid out of spent cartridges w/ a syringe. got about a ml out of it though been 5 days and i'd really like to make it a week w/out analogs.

 

[Dalek]

I think some of you are not being fair to this person. Yes this is a great forum, and I would not have acused the forum of dishonesty. But these things are not reliable. I am an e smoker for over six weeks and I am sticking with it. On the whole it is a great success and I am recommending it to others. But I also feel that it should be more reliable if I am paying for a product. I just hope that it gets better. Many people here say atomisers are 'hit and miss' as to how well and long they work. Fine, this IS honest. But woud you buy any other electronic device (like an MP3 player on this basis? If you buy something it should work! I feel that it would have been better to get it right before marketing. I think I am using a dodgy prototype. Perhaps a well known manufacturer will go into these (Panasonic perhaps!) and that would have to work properly for them to get away with it. I will do my best to stick to this, and I think this forum is a great help to all. But in a way the existence of this forum proves the point that it is fiddly and dificult. You should not need a forum really. We dont need a million and one tips and bits of advice on how to smoke a normal cigarette! But it would be better to discuss the issues raised by the disgruntled writer than to argue about the forums honesty. Yes, better he had not mentioned that bit. MY advice to him is basically stick with it, but I do take his points! My supplier does at least give great customer care (even on the phone) AND a 2 week guarantee.

 

[PeteMcArthur]

No I don't think we were unfair at all. If he had complaints and problems we would have tried to help him, no one is arguing that e-cigs are really ready for market.

What he did was to accuse us all of being suppliers and also accused us of dishonesty. That is not the way to get help. I'll try and help anyone, but call me a liar, forget it.