they fired me for vaping outside
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And file a report on this with the local whatever-agency if you think it's out of line (sounds like it).
Unless I'm misreading this, you used company time, time they are paying you for, to do something that is forbidden by the company. Now complaining that you were fired for breaking their rules? I understand that finding a job of equal pay is difficult at times, however if you needed the job then follow their policy.
how difficult is it to find another job that's not run by antz, i am unwilling to go through this again. how common is this type of behavior?
Again, doing something not allowed on the property.
ANTZ aren't the issue in terms of employment. The deeming of vape products as tobacco products is the issue. Find a company that allows smoking on the property and you should be OK. Avoid public funded locations, factories dealing with food products or extremely flammable substances, healthcare fields and you should be fine. I work in a location where smoking on the property is not allowed, not even in cars. I am only allowed to leave my job during my unpaid lunch.
Sorry, but I don't subscribe to your *ethics*.
That's what is wrong with the world today.
Now that they have fired you, you are more than willing to report them out of *revenge*........but before you weren't willing to report them based on bad practices that may have or might indeed actually hurt both fellow co-workers and consumers of the end product.
How stand-up is that?
I find that when we start questioning the ethics and practices of everyone else in the world, we should first look at our own. It's all part of the same "system".
Well I'm glad you got out of that dangerous workplace regardless of how you got out. All vaping stuff aside... That place was a hellhole and OSHA would have a field day in that place. I bet corporate wouldn't be too happy either. I am glad you admit you were in the wrong as well, that shows character. And to be completely honest, I would've done the exact same thing you did. I don't like being controlled either. 
I wish you the best of luck getting a better job.
I wish you the best of luck getting a better job.
my wife formerly worked at a hospital, they were not allowed to smoke or vape on company property BUT they were allowed to go across the street and do it during both lunches and breaks. that was 3 times per shift that she was allowed to consume nicotine. that would be an acceptable policy but telling someone you may not do it at all, we have no acceptable place for you to go is just nasty. tomorrow starts the job search. so what do i tell perspective employers, i do not want to tell the full truth and i am not going to badmouth the place i just came from. i want to be polite and to the point as possible. do i tell them there were things about the facility that were unsafe? do i even tell them i got terminated? i plan on getting another job ASAP
Now THAT is a smart move. Your interviewer would probably cross you off the eligible list if you badmouthed your last company.
Whenever I interviewed anyone who spoke badly of the previous company, I would just think "here's trouble!" and they didn't get a 2nd interview.
As for the reason, what is the reason your employer gave for your termination? That should be on your records somewhere....like on the unemployment slip.
It was good of them to say they wouldn't fight it. They are obviously giving you some breathing room to find another job. Just so you know, they could have VERY EASILY contested your unemployment benefits. It sounds to me that they just want employees who follow their policies, and want you to move on somewhere where you fit in better.
As for working in hospital, etc. environments where you only get to get your nic fix 2x a day, I would just use a patch while at work. Or the lozenges or gum for those 8 hours. Harm reduction is harm reduction, I'm not picky about that and do wear a patch when I have a flight that is over 4-5 hours.
Sometimes finding another job is a blessing. I hope your story turns out great for you~
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what do i tell a perspective employer is the question. that the job was unsafe and i refused to work under those conditions anymore and as a result i got fired. would they know the difference? the fact i was working alone, was indeed true nor did i care for it or think it was safe. i want another job and i dont want to badmouth them (that gets you no-where i have never done it, i know it be a no-no). so what do i tell them? they might not want to hear the truth. i dont think i want to tell them that they had an un-reasonable policy and i did not follow it to the letter
truthfully i had little desire to work there anymore, but now i must find work elsewhere...... hopefully with a little more reasonable policies
truthfully i had little desire to work there anymore, but now i must find work elsewhere...... hopefully with a little more reasonable policies
My boss, who vapes, said the upper management doesn't want vaping on company property, yet they allow smoking. I still vape outside. If they fire me, I'll just get another crappy job. Long live vaping!!!
The right thing is usually the most difficult.
Why our lazy spoiled, Fear Driven masses seldom do the right thing.
I wouldn't mention fired in interviews. Possibly phrase it along the lines that your last employer was not a good fit for you and you needed to move on in order to grow as an employee.
is this B.S. really become that commonplace. my last two employers did not have such an absurd policy, i thought these jerks were in the minority
To the OP you had a thread about this not to long ago and suggested speaking to the Labor Board them. Now is the perfect time. File for unemployment and once that kicks in go straight to the Labor Board. What they did is unfair and possibly illegal it may not get yo anything aside from the satisfaction that the Labor Board makes them adhere to Federal or State Laws but it is something.
Good Luck and Vape On but Safely!
Good Luck and Vape On but Safely!
i had contacted the labor board a while ago and apparently what they were doing while unfair wasn't illegal, even in regards to the paid lunches i was no longer receiving. their behavior was vial and disgusting paying everyone else but one person for lunch, but as long as i was getting a lunch paid or not it was legal. ny labor laws are useless and protect no one. that's why unions are really still needed, but companies fight like tooth and nail to keep unions out. their entire behavior would have been completely disallowed by any union. they are disgusting people. im glad i no longer work there for a multitude of reasons. now i have to rebuild my career and life, going therein the first place was a HUGE mistake. they also would require me to stay late several nights a week and then send me home early the other nights to negate the overtime. it was a game
. This is pretty standard of every job I've ever had. Unless you own your own company you always play by someone else's rules.
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