thinking about getting a squonker aka Reos/Woodvil

[kkay59]

I think I was on information overload. I thought the used price was 120, not the new blemished ones from the Reo shop. Thanks for that clarification. Sometimes I lose momentum in a conversation when the pets are acting like children around here. Squabbles, attention grabbers, crashes...you know what I mean? Well then, in the future I might get the 1600 AW then. For right now, the best bet would be the Samsung 25R to use on the Reo then. I do have those. It is my favorite actually, so that is good to know, that they will work. Yes, I may try suh ohming in the future. I am thinking seriously about it. Thank you all once again for jumping to the rescue. I like to know all about stuff, before I take the plunge. I need to go look at the accessories pretty quickly too. Today I have been busy though. After while I will try to see what all I am going to have to have like the extra spring etc...

thought you might have meant the 120, that's the price roughly of the blem mods on the reo site. Those will come with the new 510 and the new contacts. Just cheaper cuz they are blemished (supposedly) lol Was just saying that if you get one from the classies, to take into consideration how much you're paying, bearing in mind that you may want to send it in for new 510 and contacts.

I'm not great on batts, mostly repeating what i've heard.......but since you said you may try some sub ohming (I think that you said that anyhow), the 2000 have a lower amp rating, I think 10 but not sure and it seems like a lot of places aren't carrying them now, or are out cuz I just tried to look it up. The 2200 I believe are 20 amp and the 1600's are 24 amp. Rob recommends the aw imr button tops and that the firing pin was designed for those. The flat top samsung 25r will be fine and you have those right?

 

[Debadoo]

lol well my train of thought bounces around like a kangaroo on red bull, so it's easy to get confused around me.

 

[kkay59]

That was sweet, but I know it is all on me....won't be the first time, and it won't be the last. Getting old is not for weenies....LOLLLLLLLL. I am 55, and it isn't going to get any easier, that I do know.

lol well my train of thought bounces around like a kangaroo on red bull, so it's easy to get confused around me. View attachment 423775

 

[Debadoo]

lol I'm 51 but don't look a day over 65

You'll have to come visit us older folks on da back porch sometime. Lots of crazy fun luvin folks over there too.

 

[kkay59]

I am looking at photos, and see one has a kick. Would there be room in the updated version of the Reo for a safety fuse, in 18650 do ya think? Since it is just a spring under there, I would think so, especially if you use the Samsung 25R flat top?

Okay I looked at that thread with the photos. All those pretty + expensive Woodvil mods...lol...pass them by. So it looks like I am drawn to the silver, and copper....maybe a silver anodized body, with a copper vein, or copper hammered door...not sure. If anyone has this, please post photos. The all copper or all silver in what I mentioned was very nice too.

 

[ancient puffer]

You "can" use a kick, but most people find it's more trouble than it's worth, and just something else that can fail, whereas the "stock" REO has very few potential points of failure (mostly shorted attys). The thing is, a kick compresses the spring so much that it negates the springs ability to drop in a short situation. So you're trading an "electronic" failsafe, for a mechanical one, and the plain truth is, electronics DO fail. The spring, to my knowledge, has never failed to collapse in a short, and this is (to me, at least), much more reliable than a "kick" or "protection circuit" that some batteries have built in.

You'll find that once you're used to a REO, you won't miss the regulated part at all, it becomes 2nd nature to know when it's time to change the battery, most of us changing them out at around 3.8 or 3.9 volts. The REO, with a fresh battery, hits SO well, that it's pretty easy to tell when the voltage has begun to sag.

 

[kkay59]

No, I don't want a kick. I saw a pic of a Reo with one, and it made me think there would be room for a fuse. I like the mechanical aspect of it. But you are right, the spring should prevent a short.

 

[kkay59]

Mrs. C, that made me laugh, and then smile...thank you.

Rickajho-you gave a detailed bit of info that is extremely helpful. I understand what you meant. Thank you for taking the time to tell me all of that. I have a nice selection of o rings, in different sizes already. HOPEFULLY if I need one, it will be one I already have. Somewhere I read a couple of sizes recommended, but now I don't remember where. I decided to make a document on all of this. That would save me from rereading pages and pages of material again. I love copy and paste!!!
Yes, I do have a mutlimeter. I can also check the resistance on the vv/vw mods I already have too.Yes, Danny sent me the LP Grand.

There's a couple things you have to un-think about using attys when you switch to a Reo:

First, you need to adjust to building with less wick. There's no longer any need to use as much wick as possible to hold as much liquid as possible between drip sessions. Too much wick can actually block feed holes and interfere with squonking.

You really won't be looking for a level of liquid in your atty any more since excess liquid no longer stays there. You squeeze, liquid comes up and saturates the wick, you let go, and excess liquid gets drawn back down into the feed bottle. No more standing liquid in the atty getting exposed to heat and cooked.

But what Mrs C says applies: When you start you will be taking off your drip tip and staring down there to see the action of squonking as the liquid comes up into the atty and then gets sucked away. Probably the hardest part is figuring out the pacing: It's more of a slow, steady squeeze and hold for a couple of seconds. Pumping the bottle rapidly doesn't work. It becomes second nature faster than you think.

As far as supplies go... Danny is hooking you up good. For trying out you are all set.

The only thing you might need is an o-ring that fits into the drip well - maybe. Depending on the atty some times it's needed to minimize leaking between the atty and the Reo - but not always. If you do end up needing one we can direct you to getting the right size at a hardware store.

Since you are already building I take it you have something to check your builds for resistance or shorts. Just make sure you do that on your Reo atty too. Your safety in a Reo is the battery spring which will collapse in the event of a dead short. When you become an owner you definitely want to pick up a spare battery spring or two but as long as you are mindful of your build and atty you don't need to order extra springs for the sake of trying this one out.

The only question I have is if the Reo Danny is sending you is low profile? I think it looks like an LP but he didn't say. You need to know for your atty selection.

 

[kkay59]

ancient puffer, I am starting to get like that on a mech mod too. I can just about tell, when it isn't putting out as much as it should be. I'd rather change a little early, than a little late. After reading about arcing on one of the threads especially with flat tops, that was a little alarming. I checked the price of the AW 1600 mah, and they are pricey alright. That is probably why I chose the 2000 mah. They run double the price of what I paid for the Samsung battery. I have finally caught up on this thread, and have visited all the links provided, and looked at the pics of Reos. Whew, I'm tired. Netflix kick back time now. Thanks again everyone!

 

[Rickajho]

One final point: I know you are concerned about finances and this might seem like a lot of money for a mechanical & atty combo but:

If you take to a Reo you will find it stops your spending on gear dead in it's tracks. (Except on more Reos, but that's a topic for another day.) That happens to a lot of us. If you try it and you love it you will be putting every other device you might be considering in context of what you get out of a Reo - and then pass it over. And then maybe selling off a thing or two you aren't using any longer to finance the next Reo.

Been known to happen...

 

[Debadoo]

Whew, I'm tired. Netflix kick back time now. Thanks again everyone!

Whatchya watchin on Netflix? We have it, but it's been awhile since I've watched it. Been dvr'ing a lot of stuff lately.

 

[kkay59]

I just finished up with The Blacklist, and House of Cards. I watch a ton of movies on there. I get into a new series, and watch the episodes pretty fast. I stopped my satellite a little over a year ago now. So Netflix and the internet is my entertainment. Maybe eventually I will get Hulu Plus, and an antenna. (or at least an antenna for my tv)

 

[Debadoo]

I just finished up with The Blacklist, and House of Cards. I watch a ton of movies on there. I get into a new series, and watch the episodes pretty fast. I stopped my satellite a little over a year ago now. So Netflix and the internet is my entertainment. Maybe eventually I will get Hulu Plus, and an antenna. (or at least an antenna for my tv)

I've wondered about hulu. I live with my SIL and nephew and they still have Dish, plus we have netflix and amazon prime, cuz they order tons of stuff off amazon. Need to see if the 2 month trial think I found for hulu will still work, wonder if we could cut the cable or if there are still things we'd want. In which case we would not get hulu. lol

 

[kkay59]

I can't believe it. Danny's Reo is already out for delivery. It will be this afternoon though, before it gets here.

 

[dbrandt01]

Wow, USPS actually did good this time haha. It moved quick.

 

[kkay59]

Yes, it was a shock. It is going to really get me, to see it sitting here for several days, before I can get the Rogue in...lol.

 

[Debadoo]

Stinks about the rogue, but that's awesome you'll have the Reo today!!! Do you have any cartos or anything you can use on it to practice squonking??

 

[kkay59]

No, no cartos. I just started vaping the end of Oct. The Reo is here. I have been looking at it. It is smaller than I thought it would be too. It's really a very good size, in my opinion! Thanks again Danny!!

 

[dbrandt01]

Glad you got it, I hoped it wasn't too scratched up to drive you crazy haha, but Reo's aren't as big as people imagine they are.

 

[kkay59]

Danny, I'm just borrowing it. I can't be choosy if I am borrowing something. If it was mine, I'd either paint it, or put a J Wrap on it. But as I said, I have a little bit of OCD. I measured it up against my MVP2, they aren't far apart in size either. The door is very easily taken on, and off. I like it! I am getting a bit antsy about that Rogue. They aren't even supposed to come in until tomorrow. That means probably at the earliest it will be Mon-Tues before Tom can ship me one. It will be hard to wait, I'll tell ya that much.