Thread for any Dangerous Incidents

[Huffelpuff]

There may already be a thread for this (there is so much here!) but was thinking that it may be a good idea for people to post any dangerous battery issues, malfunctions or significant events with mods, batteries or juice. It would be a way to see if there are any vendors that could potentially harm people with shoddy products and also prevent future errors from happening.

Saw a post in New Members where a 510 (or fat batt or something) caught fire in the man's pockets. Thought maybe putting up a thread may prevent us from 1- getting injured and 2- getting blindsided by bad press if someone really gets hurt.

Just my 2 cents. Thanks!

PS: Love, love the forum - you guys saved my life (literally)

 

[Liscab]

Huff it is true that we can find defectives batteries once in a while but some time we can find peoples making error (human errors) and Urban legends too

 

[classwife]

This info might be useful to you:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9007-warning-rechargeable-batteries-mods.html

 

[rolygate]

Hmm, I think that thread would be 1st stop in the morning for reporters looking for trashy story ideas, and antis looking for bad news to jazz up. Right now they have to hunt all over the forum, let's keep making them work...

I can see the headline now:

Dangerous E-cigs Caused Two Pocket Fires In 2010
(Chantix caused 62,500 heart attacks and several suicides but we won't mention that as they are a big advertising client)

 

[Ande]

I have owned several extremely dangerous ecigs.

Working together, they have, so far, cost the cigarette manufacturers several thousand dollars, and what's worse, the pharmas didnt' get ANY of it.

Talk about dangerous- sheez. Those guys must be suffering...


Ande

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Hmm, I think that thread would be 1st stop in the morning for reporters looking for trashy story ideas, and antis looking for bad news to jazz up. Right now they have to hunt all over the forum, let's keep making them work...

I agree. No sense publicizing my horror of not having a firm lip-grip on my PV standing at the urinal. And the press would have a hay day if they heard the one about the man from Nantucket who always carried his ecig in a bucket......oh wait, I was gonna use that in another thread anyhow.

 

[Eddie.Willers]

Hmm, I think that thread would be 1st stop in the morning for reporters looking for trashy story ideas, and antis looking for bad news to jazz up. Right now they have to hunt all over the forum, let's keep making them work...

Wise words, Roly - time to lock this thread?

 

[DaveP]

I'm posting this just to highlight the causes of Li-ion battery failures and how rare they actually are.

Ecig mods aren't the only devices that use Li-ion batteries. Flashlights and industrial equipment, including rechargeable power tools (the best ones), and laptop computers use lithium ion batteries in high current applications.

Shorted connections and over current applications are typically the things that cause overheating, which results in pressure being released from the vents in the battery. If the heat and resulting pressure build faster than the vents can release, then explosion occurs.

Protection circuits are built into the batteries behind the negative (flat) end that interrupt the connection like an electronic or mechanical fuse in the event of over current (short or very low resistance atomizer). Occasionally, one of these circuits can fail and allow pressure to continue building.

Laptop computers were the first sources of this phenomena that I heard of. A few years ago, there were issues with the manufacturing methods used in lithium batteries that resulted in some failures. If you search Google, you will find that an extremely low rate of failure was experienced and was traced to a couple of manufacturers. Those companies solved the problems immediately and the safety record of laptop lithium batteries has been excellent to this day. The 18650 battery is used in most laptops in an interconnected arrangement.

This article explains the makeup of a lithium battery and how a failure can happen. In the 2006 recall, there were 19 reports to the government for fire and exploding batteries. Considering the number in use, 19 incidents is very low.

Consumer Product Safety Commission
PC Notebook Computer
Batteries Recalled Due to Fire and Burn Hazard

How Stuff Works
HowStuffWorks "What is causing lithium-ion laptop batteries to catch fire?"

 

[rolygate]

Almost too late, Eddie...