Throw away batteries?

[zoiDman]

Why would one through a battery away when all that happens was a screwdriver shorted the 510 pin to the 510 threads?????????????????? I mean that would mean you need to toss batts after EVERY vape session.

When you have an Atomizer attached to a Mod, and you press the Power Button, all the Electrons want to come Stampeding out of the Battery. But the Resistance of the Coil Wire holds Most of them Back.

But when a Battery is Shorted, there is Nothing to Hold the Electrons back. So they come Rushing Out. And Batteries are not Designed to have all the Electrons Exiting the Battery at the Same Time. So the Battery Gets Hot. And Many Times is Damaged Internally.

 

[93gc40]

When you have an Atomizer attached to a Mod, and you press the Power Button, all the Electrons want to come Stampeding out of the Battery. But the Resistance of the Coil Wire holds Most of them Back.

But when a Battery is Shorted, there is Nothing to Hold the Electrons back. So they come Rushing Out. And Batteries are not Designed to have all the Electrons Exiting the Battery at the Same Time. So the Battery Gets Hot. And Many Times is Damaged Internally.

You are correct.. Except the OP didn't have a battery short, based on what I have read..

Funny how when this happens with say over-tightening a Protank, we don't say toss the battery. We say don't tighten the atty so much. Again with the Protank, when the legs stick out of the base too far and short.

 

[zoiDman]

You are correct.. Except the OP didn't have a battery short, based on what I have read..

Funny how when this happens with say over-tightening a Protank, we don't say toss the battery. We say don't tighten the atty so much. Again with the Protank, when the legs stick out of the base too far and short.

Then we must have Read what the OP wrote Differently. Because it sounded like the Battery was Shorted to me.

 

[BigGOOSE]

Why would one through a battery away when all that happens was a screwdriver shorted the 510 pin to the 510 threads?????????????????? I mean that would mean you need to toss batts after EVERY vape session.

Is it really worth ~10$ to risk it? It caused enough concern for the op to ask others for help. IMHO that is grounds for tossin the bat and making a trip to closest b&m.


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[93gc40]

Then we must have Read what the OP wrote Differently. Because it sounded like the Battery was Shorted to me.

I chalk it up to the Safety Paranoia that has been POLITICALLY instilled in people over the last 50 years. We Vapers tend to see all shorts, as battery venting and killing events. My issue with the OP is that they have no tools to test whether they have damaged their battery or not. Now, THAT is unsafe.

You can bubble wrap the planet.. Somebody will still find a way to harm themselves.

 

[93gc40]

Is it really worth ~10$ to risk it? It caused enough concern for the op to ask others for help. IMHO that is grounds for tossin the bat and making a trip to closest b&m.


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All I'm saying, is....
The $10 would be better spent on a cheap Volt/ohm meter to test the battery and mod with.

 

[mattiem]

I just got a turtle ship mech delivered today. First mech. I have made a silly error and screwed the 510 connection down to stop the rattle but I had the battery in. I had the mech locked and thought a connection wouldn't be made. There was a spark and a teeny tiny flame from my 510. Do I need to throw my battery away? It seems absolutely fine.

Yeah I know, im a proper fool. I mixed up the battery with 2 fine ones as well, so that's 3 in the bin tomorrow. they are Samsung 25rs and I only had 1 ohm in the atty just to try it out. I have been using regulated devices for about 9 months and did a lot of research and thought id try a mech so i got a clone. I had battery rattle and thought because the device was locked it wouldn't be a problem. I tried to screw the 510 connection in the top cap down. Bad move.

K cheers guys. Will reading the voltage on a multi metre indicate whether my batteries have had a short? I need to research some more before I end up in trouble. Are there any vids/info you guys would recommend for a newb? Also, which mech mod would you recommend for a beginner? Thanks

Man, like 3 days, ha. But 3 I have to chuck cos I mixed them up as well. No I don't mind at all. I just wish I hadn't been so stupid. A very small price to pay though. What mech should I get? Forget these clones with their terrible venting.

No where in all the posts by the original poster does it say anything about a screwdriver

the following quoted post is where the screwdriver entered the conversation

Just re-read your post.
You arched it with a tiny screwdriver and pulled away when it sparked right?
If so:
Screwdriver touched center post(pin) and Body(ground) momentarily.
No damage should have occurred, but Testing is always advised before attempting to recharge(if needed) and use.

I've had this this happen a few(to many) times in 40 years working with DC electronics.

Personally I would just keep a close eye on my batteries. Keep a meter nearby, use the batteries for a short time and check the voltages since you can't tell which one you had been using when the spark happened. You may be able to tell if there was any damage if one of them acts different than the others.

 

[zoiDman]

I chalk it up to the Safety Paranoia that has been POLITICALLY instilled in people over the last 50 years. We Vapers tend to see all shorts, as battery venting and killing events. My issue with the OP is that they have no tools to test whether they have damaged their battery or not. Now, THAT is unsafe.

You can bubble wrap the planet.. Somebody will still find a way to harm themselves.

I think there is a Big Difference between what you call "Safety Paranoia" and Recognizing Risk. And everyone Assesses and puts Importance on Risk differently.

Putting a Shorted Battery back into a Mech Mod just Doesn't Sound like something I want to Recommend to a Total Stranger on an Internet Forum.

 

[BigGOOSE]

All I'm saying, is....
The $10 would be better spent on a cheap Volt/ohm meter to test the battery and mod with.

Nothing worse than a cheap meter. I'd rather take my chances without it than to have it misread. 10bucks is 10bucks. But you can't put a price on piece of mind knowing for certain your battery isn't affected because of a simple mishap.


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[YoursTruli]

I chalk it up to the Safety Paranoia that has been POLITICALLY instilled in people over the last 50 years. We Vapers tend to see all shorts, as battery venting and killing events. My issue with the OP is that they have no tools to test whether they have damaged their battery or not. Now, THAT is unsafe.

You can bubble wrap the planet.. Somebody will still find a way to harm themselves.

Maybe it is safety paranoia but if you are going to put something in your hand, take it up to your face and put it in your mouth that has the potential to do serious damage if something is wrong when you push the button I would rather be on the safe side where ever you can to minimize that risk than sorry.
Personally I have witnessed two different venting incidents that caused injury, it's not something anyone wants to experience and with the current trend of putting mech mods into the hands of 1st day vapers we are seeing these events happening at an increasing rate.

 

[93gc40]

Nothing worse than a cheap meter. I'd rather take my chances without it than to have it misread. 10bucks is 10bucks. But you can't put a price on piece of mind knowing for certain your battery isn't affected because of a simple mishap.


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Having NO METER is worse than a cheap meter. Doesn't take high dolar meter to check 3-4 volt or verify a short.

 

[Baditude]

Maybe it is safety paranoia but if you are going to put something in your hand, take it up to your face and put it in your mouth that has the potential to do serious damage if something is wrong when you push the button I would rather be on the safe side where ever you can to minimize that risk than sorry.
Personally I have witnessed two different venting incidents that caused injury, it's not something anyone wants to experience and with the current trend of putting mech mods into the hands of 1st day vapers we are seeing these events happening at an increasing rate.

In recent news...E-Cigarette Explodes in Man's Mouth

 

[bluecat]

Dang Bad... you are scaring me.

 

[mattiem]

In recent news...E-Cigarette Explodes in Man's Mouth

Sadly, I can see more and more of this happening with more folks pushing batteries way past what they are designed to do. Fortunately, I am seeing an upturn in folks finding that higher ohm coils will do the same job as the super low. Maybe the clouds won't be as warm and dense but I can get a really good vape from a 1.8 ohm coil and my batteries last much longer before having to be recharged.

 

[zoiDman]

Having NO METER is worse than a cheap meter. Doesn't take high dolar meter to check 3-4 volt or verify a short.

True.

But using a Inaccurate Metter to Measure Ohms can be a Bad Thing if one is Approach the Amp Limit of what a Battery can Handle.

I kinda Cringe when I see Vids of people using $6 Fasttech Ohm Testers when the Display is showing .15 Ohms.

 

[YoursTruli]

In recent news...E-Cigarette Explodes in Man's Mouth

...which is why when I was using mech mods and rebuildables exclusively I would push the fire button before taking it up to my face and putting it in my mouth, seriously, because even though I felt I was educated, being cautious and doing everything right (plus no sub ohming back then) one of the venting incidents I witnessed was a dead short near someone's face. Honestly I'm ok with being paranoid when it comes to mech mod safety. I hate seeing this stuff and the "user error" dismissals that follow events like that, of course it was user error, it's a mech mod (usually with a rebuildable too) so when someone new to mech mods has questions I go to the safest side even if not every experienced user agrees with it.

 

[tjeco]

Why would one through a battery away when all that happens was a screwdriver shorted the 510 pin to the 510 threads?????????????????? I mean that would mean you need to toss batts after EVERY vape session.

AFAIK there was sparks and flames coming from the 510 connection, created from the battery.
BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY. RIGHT?

 

[YoursTruli]

I hate seeing this stuff and the "user error" dismissals that follow events like that

wow that didn't take long

Man Severely Injured After eCigarette Blows Up In His Face | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[zoiDman]

wow that didn't take long

Man Severely Injured After eCigarette Blows Up In His Face | E-Cigarette Forum

Fortunately this type of Accident is Rare.

But it is a Good Reminder to Anyone of just what a Worst Case Scenario can be.

 

[BigGOOSE]

Fortunately this type of Accident is Rare.

But it is a Good Reminder to Anyone of just what a Worst Case Scenario can be.

Rare or common occurrence it still makes bad headlines we as vape enthusiasts have enough pressure from the media but to add insult to injury ...literally. Hope everyone is safe and hope the op did the right thing and tossed the "bad" batt.


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