Tips To Make The Cartos Last Longer

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MikeDeason

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This is what I got from experience so far....Please Add.

  • Fill NEW Pre-Filled cartos before using (about half of them are not properly factory filled)
  • Always cap both ends when off the batt (airflow dries the juice and filler material which makes the atty work harder)
  • Top off after 30-40 max good hauls
  • Take at least 10 seconds between a good haul to let atty cool.
  • Keep 3 cartos in rotation...don't retire a carto that's not burnt and then use it a week later (keeps them fresh)
  • Don't mix Premium and Regular juice in Regular Cartos (this kills a carto FAST)
 

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This is what I got from experience so far....Please Add.

  • Fill NEW Pre-Filled cartos before using (about half of them are not properly factory filled)
  • Always cap both ends when off the batt (airflow dries the juice and filler material which makes the atty work harder)
  • Top off after 30-40 max good hauls
  • Take at least 10 seconds between a good haul to let atty cool.
  • Keep 3 cartos in rotation...don't retire a carto that's not burnt and then use it a week later (keeps them fresh)
  • Don't mix Premium and Regular Juice in Regular Cartos (this kills a carto FAST)

In case anybody who is new to e-cigs is reading this, I wanted to clarify that this is just one poster's views on what s/he believes will help make a carto last longer. I'm also going to take this opportunity to review this list with my own personal experiences so that anybody reading this can get multiple viewpoints on this subject.

V4L has currently less than a 2% failure rate on all products they sell. If "about half of them are not properly factory filled", that percentage would be a lot higher. Each carto is filled at the factory with exactly 1ml of juice by hand using a syringe. A carto CAN hold more juice than this, but this is the proper factory filled amount.

I do not believe it necessary to always cap both ends of a carto when it's not on the battery. The amount of extra work capping, uncapping, and recapping when switching cartos kind of defeats the purpose of using a cartomizer for convenience. I do agree that's it's a good idea to cap both ends of a carto if you don't plan on using it the same day though.

Top-offs vary greatly depends on the hardware you are using to vape with. A passthrough will use considerably more juice than a standard battery due to being higher volts.

It's ok to retire a carto that's not burned and come back to it at a later date. Juice does not get 'stale' if both ends are capped and the carto is stored away from excessive heat.

I've mixed Premium & Regular juice in regular cartos for as long as Premium juice has been sold from V4L. I have not had a problem with killing any cartos.

Again, this is just my opinion, and should be taken as such. Everybody draws their own conclusions from their own experiences. I just wanted to add my opinion in case somebody new reads only a few threads and decides that e-cigs are too much trouble and work to use. I will say that e-cigs do have a learning curve, but it's only as difficult as you want to make it out to be. A lot of us have fun mixing/refilling/modding, but it's not necessary to do any of that to garner the benefits of vaping over smoking.

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Darrigaaz

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This is what I got from experience so far....Please Add.

  • Fill NEW Pre-Filled cartos before using (about half of them are not properly factory filled)
Alot of Pre Filled cartos are not filled properly from the factory...I had a batch of American Spirit (2 boxes) that would run dry after 12 puffs. I fill all Pre Fills before using now.

I understand that based off your personal experience, you might believe that "about half of them are not properly factory filled". I was just pointing out to others that may read this thread that this statement might not be completely accurate. There are other reasons why your batch of American Spirit might have "run dry" after 12 puffs, but for a new person gathering information of vaping, "half of them" is a HUGE percentage, and might be a deciding factor on decided to vape or not.
 

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It has been more than just the 2 packs of American Spirit...I would say on average 2 per 5 box are not properly factory filled.

NO BIG DEAL.

Just pop 3-8 drops of juice in before using the Pre Filled.....I put 8 drops in the cap and push it through .... end until it bubbles out batt end...sometimes it bubbles out right away other times it takes varying amounts of drops...what's that like 4 cents max?
 

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good point darr. i actually haven't had much issue with prefilleds not being completely filled; i know reasonable people who have. it does seem to happen with a batch here and there, and since it seems to be a by the batch issue it makes sense that those who receive packs from that batch would think it's a high percentage--especially if they're relatively new to vaping. i.e. if it's a pack from an underfilled batch, probably every carto in the pack will be slightly underfilled, so if you order 6 packs of cartos and 3 are from the same batch, it looks like 'half of all cartos are underfilled.' but in fact, if you were like me and tended to order cartos in many different flavors (and therefore from many different batches) you'd be unlikely to get that kind of result.

having said that, two caveats:

1. i haven't been ordering prefilleds lately at all, not since the manufacturing shift, so for all i know it is an issue now
2. MANY different factors besides underfilling will affect carto performance, including one's personal vaping style. so for all i know, the seemingly underfilled cartos here were NOT underfilled to start with.

point being, i just wasted a lot of words to 'ditto' what darr said. we share our personal experiences, but they shouldn't necessarily be taken as representative of what you or anyone else will experience, unless our personal experiences are hard facts. (like, "this cap is soft rubber," for example.) always take others' 'tips' with a grain of salt. or a whole salt shaker.
 

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Mike, I'm curious as to why you say they aren't properly filled. Is it because you can fit more juice in before they are completely saturated? I know Leaford said that the spec used for filling is 1ml. And I know from my own experience, using a syringe that they can take a bit more. And what do you mean by thry "run dry" after 12 puffs? Just my own curiosity here, nothing judgemental or anything.
 

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If half my cartos started burning after only 12 puffs, I would have gone back to the 510! And that's the truth! I have a policy of keeping my cartos moist by topping off (about 6-9 drops) every couple of hours, but that is more preventative then necessity.

I do have 2 batts with cartos going at once and will take 2 or 3 draws off one, then 2 or 3 off the other then set them aside. That is also preventative to keep them from getting too hot.

I guess we all have our own tips and ways of doing things and you just have to find the system that works best for you. But if 1/2 of your cartos are tasting burnted after 12 hits, something is not right.
 

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good point darr. i actually haven't had much issue with prefilleds not being completely filled; i know reasonable people who have. it does seem to happen with a batch here and there, and since it seems to be a by the batch issue it makes sense that those who receive packs from that batch would think it's a high percentage--especially if they're relatively new to vaping. i.e. if it's a pack from an underfilled batch, probably every carto in the pack will be slightly underfilled, so if you order 6 packs of cartos and 3 are from the same batch, it looks like 'half of all cartos are underfilled.' but in fact, if you were like me and tended to order cartos in many different flavors (and therefore from many different batches) you'd be unlikely to get that kind of result.

having said that, two caveats:

1. i haven't been ordering prefilleds lately at all, not since the manufacturing shift, so for all i know it is an issue now
2. MANY different factors besides underfilling will affect carto performance, including one's personal vaping style. so for all i know, the seemingly underfilled cartos here were NOT underfilled to start with.

point being, i just wasted a lot of words to 'ditto' what darr said. we share our personal experiences, but they shouldn't necessarily be taken as representative of what you or anyone else will experience, unless our personal experiences are hard facts. (like, "this cap is soft rubber," for example.) always take others' 'tips' with a grain of salt. or a whole salt shaker.

BINGO! Right on the money!
 
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