To steep or not to steep
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Slow down Mr. Pizza. I noticed your other post about nicotine solution and I just got a bad vibe from it. Please take your time and do your research. All these posts you are making have been answered time and time again and to some great extent by some real seasoned professionals. There is some really great advice through this forum on DIY. To save yourself a lot of time and money along the way I would hope you would take the time and read as much information you can before you dive head first in trying to make you own juice. There are some safety issues you need to be aware of to stay safe and the are a lot of pointers here that will help you create some really good mixes instead of pouring a lot of juice down the drain especially your expensive nic solution. Good luck with your journey into DIY. Here is a really good thread that will give you a wealth of information by some masters of DIY and you will also find your answer to your steeping question! It will benefit you to read the whole thread.
DIY Master Techniques - Flavor Add-on's (EM, VW, BW, MTS, ACV, ect) | E-Cigarette Forum
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Just so you know, I've been doing plenty of research about making my own juice. Its when I read mixed reviews that I come here to see what others are doing. What the hell did I say that gave you a bad vibe?? Like I'm going to add too much nicotine and kill myself? Thank you but I am smarter than that. I thought this was a place I could come to get advice and ask questions but rather it is a place for ppl to tell me I haven't done my homework and to come back after I read more. I appreciate your help, honestly I do.
Lets not get all out of sorts here. I'm sure no offence was mean't. Being that your some what new to DYI we just want you to be safe in what your doing. We are here to help. In regards to your question on steeping I wrote a blog that will tell you everything you want to know about steeping. When to steep, how to steep, different methods of steeping etc.
Everything you wanted to know about steeping and then some. | E-Cigarette Forum
I have many other blogs that will give you insight into all aspects of DIY. Take a look and you will be a pro at this in no time.
dannyv45's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
Everything you wanted to know about steeping and then some. | E-Cigarette Forum
I have many other blogs that will give you insight into all aspects of DIY. Take a look and you will be a pro at this in no time.
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Hey friend I'm just tryin to help you out but it sounds like you got it under control so knock yourself out. What give me a bad vibe was you asking about pure nicotine as well as asking questions that are all over this forum and have been answer time and time again. There is a search feature at the top. But hey sounds like you got it figured out. I meant no ill will, honest, but evidently you took my post way way way out of context. Good luck to you in your search for the perfect Vape!
I did not say I have it under control. I've been reading and researching for 2 weeks now trying to learn as much as I can and you know what? I haven't placed an order yet because I'm not completely confident. I read stuff everywhere about various DIY topics, and some of it can be confusing and overwhelming so I feel like I might get a better answer to my question if I ask the forum.
As far as the nicotine goes, I thought that having nicotine mixed in with something else would make it more difficult to mix and get exact ratios so yes, I inquired about purchasing straight nicotine to make things easier for a newb like myself. Thankfully, someone answered my post and told me how he mixes his vg/nic and then it was no longer confusing to me.
I'm certainly not diving head first into anything. I've been taking the last 2 weeks to learn as much as I can and will probly take another week.
No harm no foul pizza! I know it can be confusing...I too have more questions that I need answered as well. I scour these forums day and night looking for those answers and learn a lot along the way. It is that journey through the literally hundreds of pages that I'm finding things that I wouldn't in wildest dreams even consider. That is the only reason I suggested reading. Just the simple fact it might help you with something that you wouldn't even consider asking. My apologies again as I honestly meant no harm in my reply. Good luck again in find your perfect Vape.
Simple single flavor fruity or tobacco based juices require little steeping time. More complex flavors can require weeks to reach full balanced flavor. All mixes need to sit at least 24 hours and be shaken well a few times. My single flavor fruit mixes I just shake well and put the bottle in a cup of hot tap water and let sit over night. Some like Banana get better with about a weeks time aging.
Most of the time and it depends on the juice. I have No set steeping/aging time. I only have a method. I taste the juice, if it need time, it goes to the back of the shelf, if it needs venting it goes on the shelf with the cap off. Next day, taste and decided Cap on/off? More time?
Mix it, vape it, and see what you think. There is little doubt that juice changes over time. But is this change beneficial? Sometimes it isn't. For me I only mix enough fruit to be vaped within 48 hours. The custard mixes i like have to sit a month. I have a tobacco that is great fresh and loses its punch to me as it steeps.
Just like anything else everyone has an opinion. Sometimes a strongly worded one. But ultimately you will need to mix up a few batches and see what you think. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. At a certain point in the DIY research you just have to do it and be prepared to rinse a few mls down the waste pipe.
Just like anything else everyone has an opinion. Sometimes a strongly worded one. But ultimately you will need to mix up a few batches and see what you think. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. At a certain point in the DIY research you just have to do it and be prepared to rinse a few mls down the waste pipe.
Your absolutely correct so ask away. It's how I got started. There is so much conflicting information on this forum that you sometimes need to ask questions for your own clearification and that is perfectly understandable. So take what advice others give you, Look over recommendations and research the material that's been suggested. Once you've done that if you don't understand something please ask we are more then happy to help.
For all of the juices I make I let them steep for at least a week before even sampling them.
I mainly make cream/custard mixes, so 4 weeks is when I will properly give them a taste. If it doesn't taste right then I will leave the cap/lid off for 24hrs.
I also try to shake the mixes once or twice a day for the duration of the steep time.
Some people seem to 'shake 'n' vape' regardless of the composition of their liquids, so that might work for you, but it doesn't work for me.
I mainly make cream/custard mixes, so 4 weeks is when I will properly give them a taste. If it doesn't taste right then I will leave the cap/lid off for 24hrs.
I also try to shake the mixes once or twice a day for the duration of the steep time.
Some people seem to 'shake 'n' vape' regardless of the composition of their liquids, so that might work for you, but it doesn't work for me.
I make huge batches at a time. I usually make 2 30ml bottles of each of my favorite flavor. I usually wind up with about 20 bottles. Then what I do is when I start the last bottle of that flavor I make up another one right away. I alway make my own premixed nic base so its very easy to make up a bottle. I just let them air out for half a day...a good shake...and then they go in a closed cardboard box in my cabinet until I need them.
Personally, I think steeping is over-rated. A good shake and 24 hours and it's good enough for me.
There may be additional changes over time, but they are subtle, not earth shattering.
There may be additional changes over time, but they are subtle, not earth shattering.
I must be the only one on earth who has doesn't get any improvement from steeping tobaccos with heat. No matter how long a steep at what temp, I still have to let my tobaccos sit for a two week minimum before I see any improvement. For me, shaking till eternity is much more effective than heat. Don't know what is wrong with me. Is there anyone with a similar experience?
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How hot and how long are you steeping them.
I average 4 - 5 hours in 150f water and let sit a day and there ready to go.
I have tried everything - crockpot, thermos at 150 overnight. The only thing I haven't tried is the ultrasonic. Part of my problem is the type of tobacco I use and the high vg content - 80% with 4% DW.
Point being, you are going to get answers all across the board when it comes to aging juice. The best recommendation is to just sample a little bit each day until it tastes good enough to you. I rarely let any of my mixes age past a week (and that includes my custard mixes), I just enjoy them fresh. We're all different, and that is the beauty of DIY. It's customizable.
Buy an RDA and dedicate it to flavor testing.
Buy an RDA and dedicate it to flavor testing.
May be the tobacco. I vape 80/20 and have no issue steeping. Maybe your not putting enough DW in the mix. I do 7 - 10%.
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