Tobacco Absolute - A Flavor All By Itself.

[Cool_Breeze]

Goodness...people mixing drops into percentages...

'4 bottle drops in a 10 ml' dilution is somewhere in the ballpark of 1% concentration of absolute...perhaps less.

If I understand what is being posted, suggestion is offered that solution be further diluted to .03%.

Be careful that you don't hurt yourself...

 

[Burnie]

Goodness...people mixing drops into percentages...

'4 bottle drops in a 10 ml' dilution is somewhere in the ballpark of 1% concentration of absolute...perhaps less.

If I understand what is being posted, suggestion is offered that solution be further diluted to .03%.

Be careful that you don't hurt yourself...

It is confusing, I wish someone would explain it in plain terms so "I" could be understood better. Thanks

 

[Exchaner]

It is confusing, I wish someone would explain it in plain terms so "I" could be understood better. Thanks

I think this is how it goes:
Assuming 20 drops per ml, 10 ml works out to 200 drops in your base. 4 drops of flavor in 200 drops of base works out to 2%. But since your flavor was originally diluted by half, then the 2% above is really 1% of undiluted absolute.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

I think this is how it goes:
Assuming 20 drops per ml, 10 ml works out to 200 drops in your base. 4 drops of flavor in 200 drops of base works out to 2%. But since your flavor was originally diluted by half, then the 2% above is really 1% of undiluted absolute.

Drop sizes do vary with the type of tip and the consistency of that which is being dripped. Where sometimes it may be less direct to the user / reader's purpose, percentages are usually are more accurate representation (when not extrapolated from drops which can vary). I've seen drop figures ranging from 20 to 30 per milliliter.

 

[dannyv45]

I had it in the cart earlier but backed out on the $5.25 shipping. But are you saying mix the 3ml with 27ml base then use that at 1 to 2 drops per 10 ml base? If so that's not a bad price plus probably not bad on coils either at that dilution.

Edit: Oops. That's two ml for $9.00, not 3.

That will work as a 10% solution.

 

[dannyv45]

Do you detect any difference between this one and tobacco absolute Virginia variety? Haven't tried that one yet.
Also, I noticed some vendors sell the thinned down version with a bit of Ethyl Maltol added to the mix. I doubt if the Smara variety has any EM inside.

Virginia is more of an ashy dirty TA. Samara is slightly sweeter and far less ashy. Like a sweeter pipe tobacco.

 

[dannyv45]

It is confusing, I wish someone would explain it in plain terms so "I" could be understood better. Thanks

My recipe for preparing TA is

1ml TA to 9ml base (PG/VG/PGA) = 10% solution. Use that in your juice at 2 - 3 drops per 10ml of juice or if you want to convert those drops to percent. 1 drop is approx 1% so start at 1% and work up.

 

[dodari]

My recipe for preparing TA is

1% TA to 9% base (PG/VG/PGA) = 10% solution. Use that in your juice at 2 - 3 drops per 10ml of juice or if you want to convert those drops to percent. 1 drop is approx 1% so start at 1% and work up.

Hi danny,

I have TA from ecigexpress advertised as a 50% dilution. Is the same concentration you start from as in your above stated further dilution directions?

Thank you for the help.

 

[dannyv45]

Hi danny,

I have TA from ecigexpress advertised as a 50% dilution. Is the same concentration you start from as in your above stated further dilution directions?

Thank you for the help.

What I buy is a thick wax like paste which is concidered pure. I've never worked with yours so I would maybe try 2ml in 9ml's. If what they say is correct that it is a 50% diluted solution then 2ml should come out to about the same.

 

[dodari]

What I buy is a thick wax like paste which is concidered pure. I've never worked with yours so I would maybe try 2% in 9ml's. If what they say is correct that it is a 50% diluted solution then 2% should come out to about the same.

Thanks,

OK, makes sense. Will do.

Harry

 

[JD1]

That will work as a 10% solution.

I'm possibly wrong but my take is that Danny is saying mix the Samara at 10% (and not 1/2 drops per 10ml) then use that at 1/2 drops in 10ml.

Whatever, I just placed my order for 2ml @ $9.00 plus $5.25 shipping.

Lately I've been on a kick to move away from the coil gunkers and here I am ordering ta. Some fools never learn.

 

[JD1]

Virginia is more of an ashy dirty TA. Samara is slightly sweeter and far less ashy. Like a sweeter pipe tobacco.

Thanks for posting. I'm not big on the ash note and besides I have some VZ Real Cig that's great for adding a few drops for a hint of ash that's more to my liking.

I also picked up a sample of the clove absolute. I'm not even sure if it's fit for vaping or not. Guess I'll find out the hard way lol.

 

[dannyv45]

I'm possibly wrong but my take is that Danny is saying mix the Samara at 10% (and not 1/2 drops per 10ml) then use that at 1/2 drops in 10ml.

Whatever, I just placed my order for 2ml @ $9.00 plus $5.25 shipping.

Lately I've been on a kick to move away from the coil gunkers and here I am ordering ta. Some fools never learn.

your take on this is close

prepare your TA concentrate at a 10 - 1 ratio so that would be 1ml smara into 9ml base (PG/VG or PGA) and that makes your 10% TA concentrate solution.

then add 1 - 3 drops or start at 1% of your 10% TA concentrate solution directly into your juice.

as a side note a base of 50% PG and 50% PGA works the best. Otherwise you may get a cloudy mix due to the poor desolving of the TA materal into the base.

What dodari is saying is his vender TA is already diluted by 50% so he would need to double the above preperation.

 

[Burnie]

your take on this is close

prepare your TA concentrate at a 10 - 1 ratio so that would be 1ml smara into 9ml base (PG/VG or PGA) and that makes your 10% TA concentrate solution.

then add 1 - 3 drops or start at 1% of your 10% TA concentrate solution directly into your juice.

as a side note a base of 50% PG and 50% PGA works the best. Otherwise you may get a cloudy mix due to the poor desolving of the TA materal into the base.

Thank You
Perfect Explanation that Even I Can Understand.

 

[dannyv45]

Thanks for posting. I'm not big on the ash note and besides I have some VZ Real Cig that's great for adding a few drops for a hint of ash that's more to my liking.

I also picked up a sample of the clove absolute. I'm not even sure if it's fit for vaping or not. Guess I'll find out the hard way lol.

Want some real ashy stiff pick up some inawera DNB. 6 drops in 10 ml's and it's like licking the bottom of a dirty ash tray It's the foundation of any good classic american cigarette vape.

http://www.bullcityvapor.com/search.php?search_query=DNB&x=0&y=0

 

[JD1]

your take on this is close

prepare your TA concentrate at a 10 - 1 ratio so that would be 1ml smara into 9ml base (PG/VG or PGA) and that makes your 10% TA concentrate solution.

then add 1 - 3 drops or start at 1% of your 10% TA concentrate solution directly into your juice.

as a side note a base of 50% PG and 50% PGA works the best. Otherwise you may get a cloudy mix due to the poor desolving of the TA materal into the base.

What dodari is saying is his vender TA is already diluted by 50% so he would need to double the above preperation.

Thank You
Perfect Explanation that Even I Can Understand.

Yep, me too. Thanks.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

...1 drop is approx 1%..

...out of a 10ml bottle, that suggests ~10 drops per ml.

That's not been my experience.

 

[dannyv45]

...out of a 10ml bottle, that suggests ~10 drops per ml.

That's not been my experience.

As you mentioned earlier droppers are very inaccurate. Different size droppers produce different size drops. Always better to measure by ML and percent. Minute amounts are OK by drop but large volume is not good. The best you can do as far as accuracy with droppers is use a 1ml syringe and drop into it counting drops until you get to the 1 ml mark. Once you figure out how many drops it took to fill the syringe to the one ml mark then you have your drops/ml amount and you need to stay with that dropper.

I prefer a syringe over a dropper any day but for that small accent amount drops are ok. After all this is not rocket science and doe not have to be that exacting.

 

[Exchaner]

Has anyone experienced excessive coil gunk with this stuff?

 

[dannyv45]

Has anyone experienced excessive coil gunk with this stuff?

Yes and the more you use the worst it is. That's why I use RBA's. The taste is worth rebuilding a little more often. The same goes for sweets such as vanilla custard or over the top sweet RY4's like Double RY4 or using sweetener. But if it's worth the taste then you just need to put up with it.