• This forum has been archived

    If you'd like to post a thread, post it here instead!

    View Forum

"Tobacco Control Journal" urges the use of research to "to counteract e-cigarette industry marketing"."

Status
Not open for further replies.

MlrGrl

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Apr 27, 2009
1,326
54
Milwaukee, WI

electrowoman

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 12, 2010
435
5
venezuela
HEALTHWATCH: State Health Director urges caution regarding electronic cigarettes | WWAY NewsChannel 3 | Wilmington NC News

“Don’t be fooled into thinking an e-cigarette is a safe alternative to smoking, or a sure-fire way to quit,” (Dr.) Engel said. “There is no scientific evidence that either of those assumptions is true.”


Aren't Doctors also the ones who encouraged/conducted bloodletting before they discovered there might be better options? Hmmmmmm......

leeches! don't forget leeches! and phrenology!

i think it's clear the good doc is smoking something, but it ain't marlboro!
 

electrowoman

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 12, 2010
435
5
venezuela
here's one you might have missed from august:

E-ciggies help 45% smokers quit: News24: Sci-Tech: News

money paragraph:

Dr Clifford Hulley, one of the participating medical professionals in the survey, reported that "an e-cigarette is the most effective treatment method on the market for quitting tobacco smoking".

Prof Martin Veller, Head Vascular Surgeon at the University of the Witwatersrand, who also participated in the project, added that e-cigarettes have the appearance of normal tobacco cigarettes but are non-toxic.

"Motivated by my wife's experience, who smoked traditional cigarettes heavily until the moment she replaced them with electronic cigarettes, I have advised my patients to consider e-cigarettes as an alternative nicotine source."

According to Dr Kishore Deva, a Pretoria doctor who quit smoking using Twisp over a six week period, "around 10 to 15 Twisp puffs are equivalent to the same amount of nicotine delivered by a tobacco cigarette".

He added that the nicotine, present in e-cigarettes, is not responsible for the health risks that tobacco cigarettes hold.
 

MlrGrl

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Apr 27, 2009
1,326
54
Milwaukee, WI
here's one you might have missed from august:

E-ciggies help 45% smokers quit: News24: Sci-Tech: News

I DID miss that one! 45%! WOW!! That's incredible!

I checked out the Twisp site & it looks like they sell the basics, 801 & 510. When this report was made, eGo wasn't available, but is also on their site now.
I bet it would be even higher now if they repeated the study again. Heck; I'd love for them to revisit the people that were involved & see where they are a year later.

Awesome find! :banana: totally banana worthy!
 

electrowoman

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Oct 12, 2010
435
5
venezuela
can ya stand just one more? my pals at ACSH decided to give PVs a try (these guys are epidemiologists, physicians and have decades and decades of experience!). Here's the ACSH "Morning Dispatch" report on it (I subscribe via email):


E-cigarettes getting more and more popular

How mainstream are e-cigarettes these days? Last week this writer found a starter kit advertised for $19.99 at the cash register of his local 7-Eleven in Manhattan’s TriBeCa district. Well, if they’re good enough for Katherine Heigl...

The NJOY mini-kit came with an e-cigarette, USB charger and two nicotine cartridges. After letting it charge, ACSH staffers were vaping during our Dispatch meeting this morning. (Yes, really).

We were impressed by the device’s realism, including a tip that glows red when you take a drag. “It does a great job of mimicking a ‘real’ cigarette,” says Dr. Whelan.
While this writer — who has never smoked cigarettes before — had a bit of a coughing fit after taking too deep a drag, most staffers didn’t notice anything after taking a few puffs and exhaling an odorless vapor.
“It’s not designed to give you a thrill or a high,” explains Dr. Ross, a former smoker. “But addicted smokers would most likely feel it satisfied their desire to have a cigarette.”

According to the NJOY user’s guide, the made-in-China e-cigarette “has never been tested or proven to be a smoking cessation device and is not sold or marketed as such.” The guide says the nicotine cartridge consists of “four major ingredients”: water, nicotine, flavoring and proplyene glycol. ACSH’s Dr. Josh Bloom, a chemist, says propylene glycol is a common ingredient in propellants such as asthma inhalers and is metabolized by the body into pyruvic acid, which is a natural breakdown product of glucose— “so it’s essentially natural.”

“Propylene glycol has been used safely for decades. Other than the nicotine, there’s nothing remotely dangerous in these e-cigarettes, and it’s easy to see why it would help smokers quit,” adds Dr. Ross. “The only entity to have found toxic diethylene glycol in an e-cigarette is the FDA, but it’s unlikely that the maker would have used that toxin instead of the benign propellant. I suspect the FDA made an error.”
 

Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Mar 9, 2009
3,944
46
West Allis, WI
www.emeraldvapers.com
And harm reduction is where the push needs to be. We need to stop treating all tobacco as carrying the same risk as lighting the stuff on fire and sucking the results of that combustion into our lungs.

Once people understand that there are levels of risk, the bulk of them will choose -WILLINGLY CHOOSE- a less-risky alternative to cigarettes. And isn't that the goal here? To get people to STOP killing themselves with CIGARETTES?
 

MlrGrl

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Apr 27, 2009
1,326
54
Milwaukee, WI
ok, good cheddars, i present to you, the FDA's SOLUTION to stopping smokers from smoking! No, it's NOT an e-cigarette! No, it's NOT snus! It's ADVERTISING WARNING LABELS!

FINALLY! The FDA has finally found the solution to finally get their message across!

All those years of seeing the black lung photos, hearing warnings, watching the "Truth" commercials, being told of the chemicals inhaled, hiding, sneaking, standing outside in -35 degree weather, stinking, tax hikes, having MlrMan (gently) tease me, having my child ask me to quit, feeling that tightness in my chest in the morning, coughing, wheezing and watching my dad pass away as I sat by his side couldn't do it, but these poster contest winning designs.....yeah....if they take my e-cigs away, I know I'll never go back to smoking. No way. No how.

:facepalm:

....and these people get paid to sit around a room & think this sh..tuff up. Where do I apply?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread